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Ottman Amarr LoneWolf Mining Veni Vidi Vici	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:25:00 - [1] have you seen what ccp wants to do with transport ships ? the blocade runner got taken away the +2 warp strength bonus and ccp give them the useless covertops cloaking decive, any ganker with even a few experience can decloak them, so pretty useless... and the other transport ships got the +2 warp strength, but what do we know about them ? yeah they are agile like a big roid, every hictor pilot will be grinning after november 11 th, thanks ccp to make transport ship pilots easy victims for gankers, have they whined long enough that you put an apple into the mouth of transport ship pilots before you serve them on a tablet toward the gankers ? do you really think ccp you can blend us with the orca that we dont see the second biggest nerf coming toward the industrial pilots since the carrier nerf ? sorry ccp, i must show up that nerf, i cant resist... MfG ottman
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:27:00 - [2] You must be one of those guys that thought the torp buff was a torp nerf a few months back. Congrats, you've done it again. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Cruise
Roman legionnaire's AssHat Hq	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:30:00 - [3] LOL i love newbs that post threads like this As an industrial myself i LOVE this change
Faife Noctiscion	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:30:00 - [4] VVV, do you guys really want him representing you like this? -- Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Sopha Serpentia Core Dynamics	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:31:00 - [5] Originally by: Ottman have you seen what ccp wants to do with transport ships ? the blocade runner got taken away the +2 warp strength bonus and ccp give them the useless covertops cloaking decive, any ganker with even a few experience can decloak them, so pretty useless... and the other transport ships got the +2 warp strength, but what do we know about them ? yeah they are agile like a big roid, every hictor pilot will be grinning after november 11 th, thanks ccp to make transport ship pilots easy victims for gankers, have they whined long enough that you put an apple into the mouth of transport ship pilots before you serve them on a tablet toward the gankers ? do you really think ccp you can blend us with the orca that we dont see the second biggest nerf coming toward the industrial pilots since the carrier nerf ? sorry ccp, i must show up that nerf, i cant resist... MfG ottman I too am dissapointed in Quantum Patch.
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:32:00 - [6] Orca, does it blend? I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Lorzion Minmatar IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:32:00 - [7] Maybe they could unnerf Blackops and let them jump through cov jump portals solving the fuel problem.
Vitrael Reaper Industries Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:34:00 - [8] Originally by: Ottman useless covertops cloaking decive -----
Blastil	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:35:00 - [9] Originally by: Lorzion Maybe they could unnerf Blackops and let them jump through cov jump portals solving the fuel problem. If only. It would certainly be an almost game-breakingly good mechanic by which players could introduce resources deep into 0.0 space and maybe even deliver needed cap boosters to blobs in deep space. Alas, 'tis over. Time to return to WoW I guess.
Evlyna	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:36:00 - [10] Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... I loled!
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:36:00 - [11] Big transport isn't about gatecamps, it's about discouraging suicide attacks. Small trnsport got a HUGE buff (but lost some cargo room afaik); the covert cloak is way better than +2 WCS, if you can not see that then you've never actually understood what a covert is capable of.
Dark 'Shadow Shadow Fire Industries	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:39:00 - [12] Originally by: Ottman have you seen what ccp wants to do with transport ships ? the blocade runner got taken away the +2 warp strength bonus and ccp give them the useless covertops cloaking decive, any ganker with even a few experience can decloak them, so pretty useless... and the other transport ships got the +2 warp strength, but what do we know about them ? yeah they are agile like a big roid, every hictor pilot will be grinning after november 11 th, thanks ccp to make transport ship pilots easy victims for gankers, have they whined long enough that you put an apple into the mouth of transport ship pilots before you serve them on a tablet toward the gankers ? do you really think ccp you can blend us with the orca that we dont see the second biggest nerf coming toward the industrial pilots since the carrier nerf ? sorry ccp, i must show up that nerf, i cant resist... MfG ottman Don't you dare **** up my crane buff!
Dal Thrax Multiverse Corporation Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:40:00 - [13] Originally by: Blastil Originally by: Lorzion Maybe they could unnerf Blackops and let them jump through cov jump portals solving the fuel problem. If only. It would certainly be an almost game-breakingly good mechanic by which players could introduce resources deep into 0.0 space and maybe even deliver needed cap boosters to blobs in deep space. Alas, 'tis over. Time to return to WoW I guess. I thought the devblog said that blockade runners would be able to use cov jump portals. Has something changed? Dal Originally by: HEXXX In all seriousness; I think I made a miscalculation originally. . . We either need to fix this or fix our advertising.
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:41:00 - [14] Originally by: Dal Thrax Originally by: Blastil Originally by: Lorzion Maybe they could unnerf Blackops and let them jump through cov jump portals solving the fuel problem. If only. It would certainly be an almost game-breakingly good mechanic by which players could introduce resources deep into 0.0 space and maybe even deliver needed cap boosters to blobs in deep space. Alas, 'tis over. Time to return to WoW I guess. I thought the devblog said that blockade runners would be able to use cov jump portals. Has something changed? Dal They lack highslots.
Julius Rigel House Rigel	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:42:00 - [15] Originally by: Ottman ccp give them the useless covertops cloaking decive 10/10 Best troll ever! I wanted to smack myself in amazement! Scared of the events forum?
Tellenta Gallente Invicta. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:45:00 - [16] I for one will gladly give up a +2 warp strength for the ability to jump into system cloak and warp (while cloaked). I don't think you thought this "nerf" whine through. The speed that a blockade runner gets to warp is shuttle like, add the ability to warp cloaked the blockade runner now lives up to it's name. In summary OP you're stupid.
Rhadamantine Game Community	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:50:00 - [17] Probably the only boost in the patch tbfh, news at 11. Regards. Rhadamantine.
Angel Lightbringer Dark Evolution Industries	Posted - 2008.11.06 17:51:00 - [18] Edited by: Angel Lightbringer on 06/11/2008 17:55:41 Originally by: Ottman --snip-- and ccp give them the useless covertops cloaking decive, --snip-- ~~MfG~~ OMG ottman 1) Open mouth 2) Insert foot Stuff? Contract? you won't survive QR anyway, no lie.. [Edit] Thought of posting with an alt? removing Alliance tag? -Angel
Dianeces The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.11.06 18:05:00 - [19] Posting in an Ottman thread.
Ottman Amarr LoneWolf Mining Veni Vidi Vici	Posted - 2008.11.06 18:24:00 - [20] useless flaming fwd, i have expected nothing else... LOL but facts cant be flamed away, so i call it useless flaming have fun with going on flaming, but dont expect that i answer on it MfG ottman
Khemul Zula Amarr Black Plague.	Posted - 2008.11.06 18:27:00 - [21] I know logic wasn't part of the thought process here but... If the covert ops cloak is useless, and the +2 stab bonus is useless, then how is this a nerf at all? It's still got an apparently useless bonus.
Minsc Gallente A.W.M Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.11.06 18:27:00 - [22] Originally by: Ottman useless flaming fwd, i have expected nothing else... LOL but facts cant be flamed away, so i call it useless flaming have fun with going on flaming, but dont expect that i answer on it MfG ottman The only fact you've presented so far is that you are utterly clueless. Originally by: Sharkbait please for the love of god read the dam stickies
Saju Somtaaw Gallente Department of Defence	Posted - 2008.11.06 18:34:00 - [23] Lets do some math shall we? Gates drop you with in 12km of the center so the area is 4/3(3.141592654*12000(Meters)^3) or 7,238,229,474,816m^3 to search in. Covert Ops cloaks let you warp w/o decloaking so if your on the ball you will not get caught by the gate camp. Sure they're know your their due to jump effect but they don't know where in that large area you are. ---- --- --- My views don't represent those of my corporation or alliance.
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.11.06 18:41:00 - [24] Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 06/11/2008 18:44:25 Originally by: Tzar'rim Big transport isn't about gatecamps, it's about discouraging suicide attacks. Small trnsport got a HUGE buff (but lost some cargo room afaik); the covert cloak is way better than +2 WCS, if you can not see that then you've never actually understood what a covert is capable of. The Blockade runner only lost it's second active tank bonus (cycle time bonus) and the +2 WC as far as I could tell on my Prorator. The ships' Inertia Modifiers were identical (to 16 decimal places anyway) as was its mass and cargohold. The cloak bonus is good enough to not require more than Transports 1 unless you intend to tank it. (Cov-Ops cloak needs 135 CPU at level 1 , 75 at level 5) The Deep Space Transport now has the +2 WC bonus, aswell as a 5% power grid reduction per level for either Shield Extenders or Plates depending on the racial ship it's based on. Originally by: Saju Somtaaw Lets do some math shall we? Gates drop you with in 12km of the center so the area is 4/3(3.141592654*12000(Meters)^3) or 7,238,229,474,816m^3 to search in. Covert Ops cloaks let you warp w/o decloaking so if your on the ball you will not get caught by the gate camp. Sure they're know your their due to jump effect but they don't know where in that large area you are. Actually a little more than that, since I think you're dropped with 12k of the Gate itself (it's physical radius) and the new Region and Border stargates are HUGE.
Letouk Mernel	Posted - 2008.11.06 18:42:00 - [25] The covert ops cloaking device lets you move while cloaked at good speed, and lets you WARP while cloaked, in case you didn't know. That means, the **** you're hauling in that transport is only vulnerable for, like, a microsecond after you've jumped. Let's say it again: you can align and warp out while cloaked. That's a pretty awesome feature.
Rhaven Praetorian BlackGuard Frater Adhuc Excessum	Posted - 2008.11.06 18:42:00 - [26] Originally by: Dal Thrax Originally by: Blastil Originally by: Lorzion Maybe they could unnerf Blackops and let them jump through cov jump portals solving the fuel problem. If only. It would certainly be an almost game-breakingly good mechanic by which players could introduce resources deep into 0.0 space and maybe even deliver needed cap boosters to blobs in deep space. Alas, 'tis over. Time to return to WoW I guess. I thought the devblog said that blockade runners would be able to use cov jump portals. Has something changed? Dal They will be able to use the jortal generated by a blackops BS is what was said in the Dev Blog.
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.11.06 18:44:00 - [27] If this is a nerf to Transports, I look forward to nerfs of similar magnitude on every ship I fly... -- Becq Starforged Ushra'Khan The Flame of Freedom Burns On!
Lord DeFault Minmatar 20th Legion Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.06 18:47:00 - [28] rofl The only wsy this can be called a nerf is the "battle prowler" loony's lose theres warp strengh bonus. They can't safely run away :( Does have a turret and a gun slot after all :}= Why would you want too hide ^^ For the Republic
Yuleth Gix	Posted - 2008.11.06 18:47:00 - [29] Originally by: Saju Somtaaw Lets do some math shall we? Gates drop you with in 12km of the center so the area is 4/3(3.141592654*12000(Meters)^3) or 7,238,229,474,816m^3 to search in. Covert Ops cloaks let you warp w/o decloaking so if your on the ball you will not get caught by the gate camp. Sure they're know your their due to jump effect but they don't know where in that large area you are. You are wrong sir. They will see you for a short period of time. however in the sence that it's a useful buff then yes you are right.
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.11.06 18:48:00 - [30] Originally by: Becq Starforged If this is a nerf to Transports, I look forward to nerfs of similar magnitude on every ship I fly... Quotin' this. Can you do another round of nerfs to my carrier, CCP? In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
Dez Affinity Evocati.	Posted - 2008.11.06 18:51:00 - [31] Ships with Covert Cloaks are uncatchable in Empire while travelling. Unless there is 50 guys sat around the gate at 13km with drones out and if so why did you jump in, in the first place. _______________
Malcanis RuffRyders Eradication Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.06 19:04:00 - [32] ITT: covops cloaks are "useless"
mad27k	Posted - 2008.11.06 20:34:00 - [33] this means a transport can never die in low sec, whats wrong with that??
Tellenta Gallente Invicta. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.11.06 20:36:00 - [34] Originally by: mad27k this means a transport can never die in low sec, whats wrong with that?? never is a strong word that has repeatedly been proven to have been incorrect. ^-^
Estel Arador Minmatar	Posted - 2008.11.06 20:38:00 - [35] Blockade runners are getting shafted so hard that their price more than doubled since the announcement...
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.11.06 20:39:00 - [36] Confirming that covops cloaks are useless. My cheetah is equipped with the following: [Cheetah, Awesome_Cheetah] Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II 1MN Afterburner II Small Shield Extender II Small Shield Extender II Small Shield Extender II 150mm Light AutoCannon II, EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, EMP S Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Rocket Projectile Burst Aerator I Bay Loading Accelerator I Originally by: Catharacta My CNR runs on salvager tears.
brinelan Caldari Victory Not Vengeance Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.11.06 20:43:00 - [37] I suppose cov ops ships are useless too? I for one like the change, and cov ops cloaks are hardly useless. -------------------------- Some days you're the bug, some days you're the windshield
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.11.06 20:56:00 - [38] Originally by: Ottman useless covertops cloaking decive /facepalm Moron or troll... you decide. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.11.06 21:03:00 - [39] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Ottman useless covertops cloaking decive /facepalm Moron or troll... you decide. How about both? _____________________ The unofficial faceless Achura alt of EVE Online
Megan Maynard Minmatar Out of Order	Posted - 2008.11.06 21:15:00 - [40] Anyone with a brain can tell this is a troll. Cov ops cloak+high agility+MWD=never getting caught unless there is a bubble and a bunch of cans. But wait! You can use black ops portal. Nevermind about that last thing.
Anara Shaw Minmatar	Posted - 2008.11.06 21:40:00 - [41] Originally by: Ottman any ganker with even a few experience can decloak them Any ganker with even a 'few experience' would be setup to negate the exisiting default +2 warp scramble strength ANYWAY!!!! Cov ops cloak is a better trade off.
Malcanis RuffRyders Eradication Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.06 21:41:00 - [42] Originally by: Kahega Amielden Confirming that covops cloaks are useless. My cheetah is equipped with the following: [Cheetah, Awesome_Cheetah] Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II 1MN Afterburner II Small Shield Extender II Small Shield Extender II Small Shield Extender II 150mm Light AutoCannon II, EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, EMP S Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Rocket Projectile Burst Aerator I Bay Loading Accelerator I NERF OP MINMATAR COVOPS CCP FIX THIS NOW!
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.11.06 22:06:00 - [43] Edited by: Le Skunk on 06/11/2008 22:06:59 Guys a troll though tbh CCP are the biggest trolls of the lot by coming up with the whole cov ops cloak idea, SKUNK Originally by: CCP Navigator People who think I am joking or talking big are going to understand very quickly that there will be order
Malcanis RuffRyders Eradication Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.06 22:24:00 - [44] Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 06/11/2008 22:06:59 Guys a troll though tbh CCP are the biggest trolls of the lot by coming up with the whole cov ops cloak idea, SKUNK Cry moar, your gank cheetah will be nerfed SOON
Bloody Puppy Onorata Societa	Posted - 2008.11.06 22:29:00 - [45] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer You must be one of those guys that thought the torp buff was a torp nerf a few months back. Congrats, you've done it again. EPIC EPICEPICROLFROLFLMAOLMAO EPIC this anwer -> my bio ------------------------------------------------- The puppy -- yarr WHY EVERYONE LOVES ME BUT NOONE UNDERSTAND ME? Albert Heinstein
Blastil	Posted - 2008.11.06 22:52:00 - [46] Originally by: Dal Thrax Originally by: Blastil Originally by: Lorzion Maybe they could unnerf Blackops and let them jump through cov jump portals solving the fuel problem. If only. It would certainly be an almost game-breakingly good mechanic by which players could introduce resources deep into 0.0 space and maybe even deliver needed cap boosters to blobs in deep space. Alas, 'tis over. Time to return to WoW I guess. I thought the devblog said that blockade runners would be able to use cov jump portals. Has something changed? Dal I was fairly certain that the sheer ammount of sarcasm that was oozing from my fingertips (which was consiquently enough to kill TEN kittens) was enough to give away the fact that we were being sarcastic.
Rhatar Khurin Minmatar Free Ammatar Aid Organisation	Posted - 2008.11.06 22:56:00 - [47] Well, i for one welcome being able to travel around whilst cloaked instead of two free warp-stabs.
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.11.06 23:01:00 - [48] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 06/11/2008 23:02:13 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 06/11/2008 23:01:05 Originally by: Ottman useless covertops cloaking decive Trollpost detected. But yeah, +2 WCS was like totally uber useful. Please change it back. It's awesome, compared to the covops cloak. Geez, aside from AFs its the only actual improvement in the game. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.11.06 23:08:00 - [49] Originally by: Tzar'rim Originally by: Dal Thrax Originally by: Blastil Originally by: Lorzion Maybe they could unnerf Blackops and let them jump through cov jump portals solving the fuel problem. If only. It would certainly be an almost game-breakingly good mechanic by which players could introduce resources deep into 0.0 space and maybe even deliver needed cap boosters to blobs in deep space. Alas, 'tis over. Time to return to WoW I guess. I thought the devblog said that blockade runners would be able to use cov jump portals. Has something changed? Dal They lack highslots. minmatar prowler 4tw.... I'm hanging onto that extra highslot with all I got. ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
Joss Sparq Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.06 23:09:00 - [50] Originally by: Hooch Flux Orca, does it blend? "Remember, don't breathe this!" indicates Capital Components haze as lid is removed
Artemis Rose Varion Galactic Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate	Posted - 2008.11.06 23:09:00 - [51] Originally by: Becq Starforged If this is a nerf to Transports, I look forward to nerfs of similar magnitude on every ship I fly... Epic quote *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Christari Zuborov Amarr Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.11.06 23:44:00 - [52] I'm actually very disappointed about the industry changes. Encouraging people to play 'single player' mode, only lessens the value of gameplay. As it stands, missions and ratting requires no grouping - you can do these things alone. PvP is moving to both luck and ignorance, due to ctl-q and more abilties to avoid it. The PvE side of me is even more angry, the more ability given to people to gather up and do more with minerals means even lower prices. We need a halving, or quartering of minerals/mods gathered to recover the wage of industry players.
Waxau Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2008.11.06 23:52:00 - [53] I lol'd http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0811/WidowMAIN.gif too large :( Will change tomorrow.

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