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Neaghan Grebs
Pern Star Foundries
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Posted - 2008.11.10 13:20:00 -
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Anybody here tried the Eagle or Harpy in Sisi?
I used to enjoy flying them but they really were a bit gash compared to other AF's and HAC's. Any sign of usefulness? With the speed nerf and without Sisi to test on (my laptop would die with anymore on it) I think they might have a chance of being "decent"... 
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Murina
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.10 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Neaghan Grebs Anybody here tried the Eagle or Harpy in Sisi?
I used to enjoy flying them but they really were a bit gash compared to other AF's and HAC's. Any sign of usefulness? With the speed nerf and without Sisi to test on (my laptop would die with anymore on it) I think they might have a chance of being "decent"... 
I prefer the vulture to the eagle tbh but i do think that a good mix of snipers with good tracking, a few oneiros, tackle and a falcon or two could be interesting.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.10 13:32:00 -
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Harpy doesn't have to be used in a sniper fit, and I don't have a good opinion on the ability of frigate snipers anyway.
Larger railboats are quite good (and noticeably better now), as closing range is harder and they've got less competition after the locus nerf. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |

Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.11.10 13:33:00 -
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No but i used both on tq. They wont change much. Other races will do more dmg but lower optimal , well if you can use out your better optimal ,which is not that easy, then these ships are far from useless. And most of the caldari missile users will respec to rails or other race ,then we should see some increase in numbers for these ships.
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Neaghan Grebs
Pern Star Foundries
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Posted - 2008.11.10 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko Harpy doesn't have to be used in a sniper fit, and I don't have a good opinion on the ability of frigate snipers anyway.
Larger railboats are quite good (and noticeably better now), as closing range is harder and they've got less competition after the locus nerf.
I always used the harpy with blasters and when I could get in range was happy enough. I'm just hoping a harpy with AB isn't quite as slow in comparison to everything else.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.10 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 10/11/2008 13:37:24
Originally by: Naomi Knight No but i used both on tq. They wont change much. Other races will do more dmg but lower optimal , well if you can use out your better optimal ,which is not that easy, then these ships are far from useless. And most of the caldari missile users will respec to rails or other race ,then we should see some increase in numbers for these ships.
I don't see why would a, eg. Cerb pilot switch to a Eagle. For most practical purposes, the HML long range Cerberus will outdamage a, eg. Eagle outside of antimatter range. Ships could fit a lolafterburner to reduce damage recieved, but that would be wasting your midslots and fitting to make you remove a part of missile ship damage if (and only if) you're untackled (and therefore not going to die anyway) - basically, not worth it.
Unless those HACs with nano AB fits are killing you? 
Originally by: Neaghan Grebs
I always used the harpy with blasters and when I could get in range was happy enough. I'm just hoping a harpy with AB isn't quite as slow in comparison to everything else.
It's not, it's quite decent. I have a lovely fit in mind, btw, but requires AWU V, damn thing.
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Neaghan Grebs
Pern Star Foundries
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Posted - 2008.11.10 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
It's not, it's quite decent. I have a lovely fit in mind, btw, but requires AWU V, damn thing.
Thats on a list of things to train soon. Just finished all the gunnery support skills so after small blaster spec V it's next. 
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Miyamoto Uroki
Caldari Katsu Corporation
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Posted - 2008.11.10 14:01:00 -
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As everyone knows the eagle is a niche ship, specialized for extreme ranges. imho it only shines when combined with pre-made bookmarks for warp-ins (could use your ecm spots around gates/stations for these). Warp in, snipe some frigates/ceptors, warp out.
for the pure sniper job I would prefer an eagle above a vulture. Simply due to more agility of eagle, smaller sig radius etc. A vulture without gang assist mods is also pretty fail imho, so I would only use one as fleet support ship.
Unsure about the harpy tbh, I guess it makes a quite nice blaster close combat boat, but as true caldari I refuse to fit blasters on it. 
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Alex Harumichi
Gallente Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.11.10 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: Alex Harumichi on 10/11/2008 14:09:29
Originally by: Murina
I prefer the vulture to the eagle tbh
Hmmm, why?
Eagle seems to be the better cruiser-class sniper, has a smaller sigrad and is more nimble in general. What does the Vulture give you?
Not being snarky here, honestly curious.
Added: gang links are one thing, of course... but can you fit a sniper setup and run gang links on a Vulture, in a realistic setup?
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Murina
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.10 15:27:00 -
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Edited by: Murina on 10/11/2008 15:31:26
Originally by: Alex Harumichi
Originally by: Murina
I prefer the vulture to the eagle tbh
Hmmm, why?
Eagle seems to be the better cruiser-class sniper, has a smaller sigrad and is more nimble in general. What does the Vulture give you?
Not being snarky here, honestly curious.
Added: gang links are one thing, of course... but can you fit a sniper setup and run gang links on a Vulture, in a realistic setup?
A extra high and mid slot, 25m3 drone bay, a larger buffer tank for RR and obviously the gang mods.
I tested it on sissi in the BC/CS, LOGISTIC (oneiros), EWAR, TACKLER gangs we were trying out and its survivability was a lot higher compared to the eagle because of the larger natural buffer tank it has.
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