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Lucas Avignon
Avignon Associates Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 20:53:00 -
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You really should make a seperate global market just for plex's, instead of having to buy and sell them at every bloody station in Eve through both market and contracts.
There is no need to make them an actual item, they could simply be an electronic concorde license that can be bought, sold or transfered through the neocom.
Originally by: CCP Prism X Yeah, and while we're at it we can create a controlled environment around account hacking and credit card fraud and all the other EULA breaches..
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.14 11:07:00 -
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Just curious. Why PLEX things made with so much underground work involved? Keep it simple, make it's volume 1'000'000 m3 - noone will be able to transport them in any way, so you effectively saved them from leaving station - and that's without any underground coding at all. -- Thanks CCP for cu |

MissLiz
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Posted - 2008.11.14 22:51:00 -
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There is free games you can play, or maybe get a job? Or maybe you would like eve to be ad-financed?
I think this is a good feature, and the prices will stabilize.
I love it. Arri Gato Layeth down the smack! |

IR Scoutar
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.11.16 06:09:00 -
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In my humble personal opinion:
the manpower should have been saved i think it sends the wrong signals as a producer would say the cost to benefit ratio is off as a ingame 30day gtc only bring very few benefits to players
in conclusion ... bring back 30day gtcs for the real world
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Mara Rinn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.17 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: IR Scoutar i think it sends the wrong signals as a producer would say the cost to benefit ratio is off as a ingame 30day gtc only bring very few benefits to players
30day ingame GTC brings benefits to players who are currently subscribed and want to extend their subscriptions.
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Belmarduk
Amarr M.A.R.S. Enterprises Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.20 16:12:00 -
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Great idea - This way the prices will stabilse again again in the long run. Put in a REGIONWIDE wide buy order for a reasonable price and wait (up to 90 days)- then go there with shuttle.
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Rata Nrnima
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Posted - 2008.11.20 18:27:00 -
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The plex is too much trouble. Not worth the effort. I will continue to buy and sell on the forums until it is closed or banned. Then I personally will no longer participate. I really do not understand what the fuss is about over what people do with their money to aid others, but -
I purchase and sell most to benefit those I know personally that cannot continue to pay for whatever reason - Understanding the global economic realities, My purpose was to aid rl friend afford to play. Why should not some benefit from real life money being converted into "imaginary" isk come to the person doing the conversion. As long as the persons buying and selling are happy why the anger from those not directly involved? Why disdain for those that do participate in this? |

Terminal Insanity
Minmatar Echo Squad
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Posted - 2008.11.22 08:42:00 -
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Needs a "Transfer PLEX to current station" button.
Also, you should clarify that buying a GTC on the forums securely, can NOT convert into PLEX cards. There have been several people wondering how to move their GTC that they bought from the eve secure system into PLEX cards.
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Mara Rinn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.26 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Rata Nrnima I purchase and sell most to benefit those I know personally that cannot continue to pay for whatever reason - Understanding the global economic realities, My purpose was to aid rl friend afford to play.
Can you trade PLEX through the contract system?
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.11.26 10:23:00 -
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Nice system, I like it :p CyberGh0st aka Cyberwiz aka Mentakh Active @ EvE Online Retired @ DAoC / WoW / SWG / LOTRO / Diablo / Planetside / Entropia / Lineage / Guildwars / EQ / UO |
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mad27k
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Posted - 2008.11.27 21:47:00 -
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once the prices become acceptable il start playing again....and yea a global market would be much more useful, sucks having to fly back to empire to get a gtc.
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Mara Rinn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.28 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: mad27k sucks having to fly back to empire to get a gtc.
Do you not have a jump clone in Empire space?
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Zanpt
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.02 12:30:00 -
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This feature strikes me as a poor and complicated workaround for the problem created by removal of 30d and 90d GTCs. The programming that went into this would have been better spent on fixing bugs and/or fixing broken things like the inability of alliance members to use POS corp hangars or to anchor their own corp hangars at a POS, or the inability to name a corp hangar to tell them apart.
Since the unsubbed training nerf I no longer buy GTCs and no longer sell them for ISK in game. I will not make use of this new PLEX feature.
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Dasfry
Caldari Demio's Corporation 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.03 00:30:00 -
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Edited by: Dasfry on 03/12/2008 00:33:01
Originally by: Last Wolf What about E-bayers? Are these Items still considered Property of CCP, considering they are almost directly bought with the (Original) Owner's money?
Ebay itself doesn't allow most virtual item sells anymore Neither does CCP, in terms of in game items.
If you feel i'm wrong please explain along with some evidence to the contrary *********** Dasfry, Director Demio's Corporation
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Dasfry
Caldari Demio's Corporation 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.03 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: branodn lee did ccp think about that fact now the gtc price's are going to double unless you stop it. i say eve total accounts are going to go down by 10% because who is going to pay 350mill or more per 30days..
Its a classic case of supply and demand.
As the price goes up, more suppliers will be interested in selling what they can supply. Thus giving a downward force on the market prices for PLEX'es.
Of course in the begining there will be more demand then supply as is most of all items.
Just give it time to stabilize. After that then figure out way to improve competition & supply. Prices will drop there after.
*********** Dasfry, Director Demio's Corporation
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Dasfry
Caldari Demio's Corporation 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.03 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Caiman Graystock Give the market time to equalise, anything new always goes for high isk to begin with. As for the cost, who'd have thought people would pay 600m for 60 days- yet they continue to sell near that price.
I agree for the most part.
Its been on the market for less then 20 days, to assume the price will always be like this is silly. *********** Dasfry, Director Demio's Corporation
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Dasfry
Caldari Demio's Corporation 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.03 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: branodn lee
Originally by: Caiman Graystock Give the market time to equalise, anything new always goes for high isk to begin with. As for the cost, who'd have thought people would pay 600m for 60 days- yet they continue to sell near that price.
thats why i say only about 10% will kill off 1 or more accounts. i know i will have to close all 4 of my accounts, even this one. i cant afford to pay for eve with rl cash, and i cant afford it with isk now ether...
How much where u paying before? *********** Dasfry, Director Demio's Corporation
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Dasfry
Caldari Demio's Corporation 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.03 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Skeezer How do you set up a sell order for the pilot's license?
Right click the PLEX in your hanger. Click 'Sell this item' Next click on 'Advanced'
fill in the blanks to your preferences hit sell
Congrats you'e completed a sell order *********** Dasfry, Director Demio's Corporation
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Dasfry
Caldari Demio's Corporation 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.03 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Arri Gato
I think this is a good feature, and the prices will stabilize.
Agreed *********** Dasfry, Director Demio's Corporation
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Dasfry
Caldari Demio's Corporation 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.03 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate I suppose the question raised in one of the GD threads deserves some reposting: Are scams involving PLEX's going to be legal, or should we expect swift GM action if someone sells his code to me for 2m instead of 200m. Not that I would, just wondering for posterity 
Thats not a scam *********** Dasfry, Director Demio's Corporation
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Dasfry
Caldari Demio's Corporation 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.03 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Chian XinLian How difficult would it be to make all PLEX trading global, orders crossing borders. They are Concord items, so they are global in that sense.
Right now they are at best region wide, when you see them on some region @ 200mil, they might as well be 400mil on somewhere else. Currently finding cheapest sell orders / highest buy orders requires flying across several regions. Adding alt to every region aint really an option.
Also, since they are station locked and cannot be moved (in any way) market cannot compensate differences through traders/haulers.
They can be applied from assets so in that sense there is no reason why they couldnt be traded global instead of current 'region wide at best'..
If you really want PLEX to be adhered with your market in eveuniverse - make plex global commodity..
Not nessary use Eve-Central http://eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=29668 Once there just type in PLEX in the search box gives you list of prices across many regions. *********** Dasfry, Director Demio's Corporation
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Ranger 1
Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.12.03 18:02:00 -
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Thank you for that link, I had forgotten it.
===== * Now I know how George Washington felt when Napoleon bombed him at Pearl Harbor. - Beast Boy |

Dasfry
Caldari Demio's Corporation 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.04 03:29:00 -
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Edited by: Dasfry on 04/12/2008 03:29:15
Originally by: CCP Navigator Quantum Rise, the latest expansion release for EVE Online, has been deployed. The Tranquility server is now online and accepting connections.
Please use this thread to provide us with your feedback and thoughts on the deployment of PLEX (30 day Pilots License Extension). It is important to us to know of any issues that you encounter or feedback that you have while using this new feature.
Full details regarding PLEX can be found in Oveur's Blog.
The Dev Team will be monitoring this thread throughout the next few days to keep abreast of the PLEX deployment and status.
I do have a request, please increase supply of the in game PLEX's. I realize you're going to say well the players are in control of the supply for sell. Well true but some of the ways you can increase supply is by educating the player base on how to create in game PLEX's
Right now in Jita at this house there appears to be only 8 sell orders. selling at 315 to 375 isk each with another 2 sellers selling at 600mil each.
Yet you have over 20 buy orders paying 300+ mil each.
Right now Demand is greater then supply as of Dec 4 2008 3:28 in game time *********** Dasfry, Director Demio's Corporation
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HyperZerg
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Posted - 2008.12.07 19:01:00 -
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Don't like it. Maybe make the Market for this item global since it's not a real item.
Missing the possibility to reactivate a account.
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Sir Ibex
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Posted - 2008.12.08 04:34:00 -
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PLEXes was a great idea, but this will change if the price will rise to unreasonable levels due to greedy merchants manipulating the market... Also, WHO WILL CONTROL THE SUPPLY of these PLEXes? CCP? Currently I haven't heard of players "manufacturing" them...
I propose that PLEXes are PRICE FIXED at 180 million isk, and made an NPC only item that you can only buy, but cannot sell. Why 180 mil? Because that is how much 30 day time cards used to cost before they were removed. Since CCP removed ghost training, this would be a nice alternative. It would be a nice money sink too!
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Leena Kian
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Posted - 2008.12.10 10:05:00 -
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is it possible to activate PLEX remotely? you know... PLEX is in Jita, Im somewhre in null space, can I still activate it or do I have to fly to Jita?
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svings
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Posted - 2008.12.10 15:16:00 -
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I think this cards are awesomness (bit prizy though). The only pity is that you cant buy one to transfer it to another alt character beiing that unactive...
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champinoman
Caldari Illuminated Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.10 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Ibex PLEXes was a great idea, but this will change if the price will rise to unreasonable levels due to greedy merchants manipulating the market... Also, WHO WILL CONTROL THE SUPPLY of these PLEXes? CCP? Currently I haven't heard of players "manufacturing" them...
I propose that PLEXes are PRICE FIXED at 180 million isk, and made an NPC only item that you can only buy, but cannot sell. Why 180 mil? Because that is how much 30 day time cards used to cost before they were removed. Since CCP removed ghost training, this would be a nice alternative. It would be a nice money sink too!
Actually players do Manufacture them... kind of. The Plexs are not seeded into the game. They are put on the market when someone buys a GTC and enter the code into the game. Its exactly the same as selling in the forum except the 60 day GTC is split into 2 30 day plex's.
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2008.12.10 18:03:00 -
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Edited by: Claire Voyant on 10/12/2008 18:05:17 On the whole, I like the new system. Having a transparent market for PLEX's will make it easier to get a fair price. But you do need to keep the forum timecode bazaar open for alt accounts that have become inactive, at least until you find another way to reactivate those accounts. Thankfully, the in-game PLEX market will help to keep the forum bazaar prices honest.
I'm not entirely sure why PLEX's can't leave station, but I assume it has something to do with keeping a strict accounting for them. Especially to make sure they can't be jetisoned in space and transferred to another pilot without it being recorded.
Perhaps CCP will create a global market for plexes or somehow permit them to be transported in the future, but the contract system does permit you to list your PLEX's globally, as long as the buyer is willing to travel to your region to buy it.
Activating from the assets tab is very useful, but in most cases you to need to be in the region to buy it. However, you can use an empire jump clone or even an alt (in the same account) to buy and sell PLEX's. Even if you don't have an empire jump clone (or don't want the bother of jumping) doesn't everyone have an alt in Jita? There is nothing to prevent you from having your alt convert a GTC to PLEX's and sell them in Jita or for your alt to buy a PLEX and apply it to your account. And if you have multiple accounts, can't you use a private contract to transfer a PLEX form one account to another and accept (and activate) it even if your characters aren't in the same region?
Yes the price of PLEX's seem quite high, but wasn't the writing on the wall when CCP raised the price of GTC's last June? Perhaps the liquidity of the PLEX market will raise the supply and lower the price in isk. When I mentioned to my noob corp mates that they could legally buy more than 600 million isk for $35 buy selling PLEX's, most of them responded with "Wow! Really?" and "What's a PLEX?"
Having a fixed price for PLEX's would probably kill the market and it wouldn't help anyone to have cheap PLEX's if there was no supply of people willing to sell them at that price. CCP is clearly making money off of this system since an account using PLEX's is generating $210 per year for them and their resellers while a subscription account only makes them $131.40. So it is their interest to keep it thriving, and I'm sure they will do everything in their power to do so.
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Dasfry
Caldari Demio's Corporation 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.10 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: HyperZerg Don't like it. Maybe make the Market for this item global since it's not a real item.
Missing the possibility to reactivate a account.
There already exists to ways to see it 'global'
You check the contracts database in all regions for 'plex'
Or you goto Eve-central to check all region markets for 'plex'
Eve-central.com http://eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=29668 Once there just type in PLEX in the search box gives you list of prices across many regions.
*********** Dasfry, Director Demio's Corporation
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