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Khraunus
Amarr Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.11.12 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: PerrinAybarra hmm don't see this mission nerf you speak of still can kill every level 4 mission as i did before in my t2 fit raven so no change for me
[x] inability to damage frigates without a target painter [x] lower damage vs cruisers [x] lower damage vs battleships
Yeah, no change at all. Most importantly, how are you supposed to tell whether this is part of my post or my signature? |

Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 20:48:00 -
[62]
I'm fine with the patch.
From what I am hearing about the newly inflicted necessity of Target Painters on Ravens makes me think back to running endless Gurista missions (Extravaganzas and Blockades) in a Rokh, where a Tracking Computer was a midslot necessity, if you intended to battle smaller ships closer than 45km with drone skills still waiting to be trained fully.
I imagine the end result will be Raven fits closer in line with what passes for an effective Rokh fit, rather than being just juiced up Drakes.
In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
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Khraunus
Amarr Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.11.12 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Khraunus on 12/11/2008 20:49:44
Originally by: Janu Hull I'm fine with the patch.
From what I am hearing about the newly inflicted necessity of Target Painters on Ravens makes me think back to running endless Gurista missions (Extravaganzas and Blockades) in a Rokh, where a Tracking Computer was a midslot necessity, if you intended to battle smaller ships closer than 45km with drone skills still waiting to be trained fully.
I imagine the end result will be Raven fits closer in line with what passes for an effective Rokh fit, rather than being just juiced up Drakes.
Ah, I see you found the 'reply to topic' button  Most importantly, how are you supposed to tell whether this is part of my post or my signature? |

Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Khraunus Edited by: Khraunus on 12/11/2008 20:49:44
Originally by: Janu Hull I'm fine with the patch.
From what I am hearing about the newly inflicted necessity of Target Painters on Ravens makes me think back to running endless Gurista missions (Extravaganzas and Blockades) in a Rokh, where a Tracking Computer was a midslot necessity, if you intended to battle smaller ships closer than 45km with drone skills still waiting to be trained fully.
I imagine the end result will be Raven fits closer in line with what passes for an effective Rokh fit, rather than being just juiced up Drakes.
Ah, I see you found the 'reply to topic' button 
Another stealth feature, apparently.  In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
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Maud
Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:02:00 -
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Remembering the nerf fest before tech 2 I am currently speculating that tech 3 is around a corner soon tm. theres some good and aparrently a lot of bad from the patch - i admit myself that my 15km/sec bs was a bit excessive but once again CCP seems to have overnerfed
A more interesting question would be do you like the or dislike the patch and how old is your character?
i've been around for long enough to have trained just about everything so the nerf fest hasn't affected me too much.
However talking to guys who specialised and have around 40mil of skills sunk into a career i have not seen many good things said about the patch.
Newbies seem to love it - now they can fight on almost equal terms as high skilled players.

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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:05:00 -
[66]
Me -
DesuSigs |

RedSplat
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:05:00 -
[67]
Edited by: RedSplat on 12/11/2008 21:07:59 me
Quote: Another stealth feature, apparently.
Dont worry, reply to topic will be removed soon as it places too much stress on th-
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Tippia
Caldari Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:13:00 -
[68]
All my favourite stuff flies faster or kills faster than before. I'm fine with this patch. 
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Darth Vaders
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:13:00 -
[69]
I am very happy with the changes apart the GTCs that i want them removed. |

Gorefacer
Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: mad27k making their nice billion isk mission ships almost useless :D
Don't believe everything bitter people say. Wait a week or 2 and tell me if you still see Caldari ships doing missions. Also "not the best" isn't the same as "useless".
I'm happy with everything so far. Was happy before the patch and don't see any reason to change my opinion on things in general now.
Plus the module timers and weapon grouping was a step in the right direction in my opinion.
"You can't reason someone out of a belief they haven't reasoned themselves into" - Prometheus |

Pandora Pirinello
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:27:00 -
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The only real change that this patch is ushering in is forcing us into "bring a friend online" which is bull****, back to comparing numbers and fleeing or chasing
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DreadedHunter
Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:32:00 -
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TBH considering the size of the patch I'm well impressed. The fact that I could play on patch day was a huge bonus :)
As for the actual gameplay... little anoyed that im down to 1 reliable mac client at a time but I can live with it for now unlike the last mac patch which rendered playing eve a nightmare.
So imo hats of to CCP 
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Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:34:00 -
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all hacs and larger have been speed nerfed. All hacs and smaller now can be shot by missiles in theory.
So realistically the only people who havent been nerfed are capships.
Carriers seem to be sitting rather pretty. ------------------------ Have you fed your slaves recently? -BRB Rens |

Ocih
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:43:00 -
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I found a new one they didn't **** off!!
Chaining Battleships in 0.0 is a breeze now. Nobody is messing with the cruisers and frigates  |

Mag's
MASS
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:47:00 -
[75]
Me.
Only because I really don't give a rats ass any more. 
Mag's
Originally by: Avernus One of these days, the realization that MASS is no longer significant will catch up with you.
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Khandara Seraphim
StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:53:00 -
[76]
I'm not mad, I think speed was obviously out of control and I'm willing to have to rediscover new tactics to make the game more interesting.
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Will Cassidy
Caldari Defcon One Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:53:00 -
[77]
Me!
Eve is an awesome game, best mmo out there, and I never complained about anything. |

Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:54:00 -
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Edited by: Janu Hull on 12/11/2008 21:55:18
 Originally by: Jason Edwards Carriers seem to be sitting rather pretty.
Yes we are...actually, I think my Chimera is 0.2m/s slower. DAMN YOU CCP!!! |

Aarin Wrath
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:54:00 -
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Me. I am very happy with the patch.
FYI: I don't train FOTM ... change is fine with me. |

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2008.11.12 22:02:00 -
[80]
Me is the new me-me.
Also; answer to OP's question is - me.
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rentona
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Posted - 2008.11.12 22:06:00 -
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There is a great irony most of you seem to be missing. The nerfing of "ghost training" 4 weeks before whats looking to be the most unpopular patch / expansion in eve history, should give you a hint. CCP are genuinely worried that those who find themselves dismayed at the outcome of this latest expansion will vote with their wallets and simply stop subscribing. CCP's business model (being an Icelandic company) is extremely dependent on the subscription income as it can't pay any of it bill to external companies (such as the server hosting in the UK where the cluster actually lives) in Icelandic currency dues to the countries severe economic problems. Hence your $, euro's & GBP count vastly more than any number of (badly spelled and grammatically impenetrable) words pasted onto this forum. If your subscription lapses, you receive a email asking you why. It won't take very many of those before you actually see change as, unless you are entirely deluded, you must realise that CCP is a business, and the number one objective is (as with any business) profit. I find it difficult to believe that they care about me, or any of you; but they love our money. I don't seek to influence or persuade anyone to a course of action, only to set out the realities such as they are, and those options open to you.
q flames of epic proportions and/or bannage
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Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: rentona The nerfing of "ghost training" 4 weeks before whats looking to be the most unpopular patch / expansion in eve history, should give you a hint.
Welcome to the reality of every other MMO out there. I won't deny I took advantage of it on my alt account when things got tight for me, but given that I don't have to sit in a belt waiting on rat respawns to advance in skill training via experience points, I think I can live with their cutting it back from a license to grind without paying. In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
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NightF0x
Gallente Chicken Coup Raiders
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Posted - 2008.11.12 22:09:00 -
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I may complain but there are more positive aspects than negatives in this expansion. Yes I enjoyed my interceptor's speed and yes I would rather not have to carry small drones but nothing completely killed my gameplay. We all have to adapt and find alternate methods. So a missile boat has to carry a target painter to hit smaller targets...seems fair since anyone with rails has to carry drones to hit small ships as well. ------------------------------------
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EinaruS
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2008.11.12 22:12:00 -
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the real "nanophags" are, and will be the same you forum warriors will be whining about next regarding the overpowered *blank* -
A finger...especially the middle one, is worth more than any amount of isk |

Mangala Solaris
Caldari Ma'adim Logistics
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Posted - 2008.11.12 22:12:00 -
[85]
Me.
Nothing I fly or plan to fly soon has been affected, and if anything has - still testing all my toys - then I'll:
Adapt or Die. :) -------
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Major Templar
Caldari DFX Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.12 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Monkey Rat What are the new uber mission and PvP ships now anyway?
The Rokh, it's strong, has plenty of Rails, can take a beating, more then worth it.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.12 22:24:00 -
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I wasn't "****ed off" (whatever that might mean).
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Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Major Templar
Originally by: Monkey Rat What are the new uber mission and PvP ships now anyway?
The Rokh, it's strong, has plenty of Rails, can take a beating, more then worth it.
I always thought its tank was superior to the Raven's anyway. The 5% resist bonus per level is like having a free invulnerability field after BS4. In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
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rentona
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Posted - 2008.11.12 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Janu Hull Welcome to the reality of every other MMO out there.
Other MMO's didn't use to list it in their FAQ's as a "feature".
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Tom Perrish
Mystic Lion Hearts Sev3rance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 22:34:00 -
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Edited by: Tom Perrish on 12/11/2008 22:36:46
ME
(and yes i'm also calamari only pilot,oh and btw there is more than 1 calamari bs)
/Edit : typos
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