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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 12/11/2008 21:11:49 Hello \☺.
I see lots of topics going now where many peoples can't get the Anti-Aliasing and the HDR to work at the same time on ATI cards that support Shader Model 3.0. But if your running EVE with Premium graphic, you should be able to run it with AA and HDR at the same time. Like you can with Fallout 3 for example.
And there is a guy who have made that possible a little while ago, and you can find the link to what you need to do HERE.
Or you can just download the ready made VBR script that you can just click on and it will do the job for you to make you run EVE with AA and HDR at the same time. The VBR Script is HERE.
You have to place the VBR script file in the main EVE folder where you have installed EVE Online (where the bin folder is located).
Remember, when you have clicked on the VBR file and then pressed OK after that, you will have a new shortcut on your Desktop that is called 'EVE Online - HDR'. Just start EVE from that shortcut.
And when you are ingame, then just press ESC and then go to the option where you can turn on HDR and Bloom. Then just activate them and you will see that you can run EVE Online with AA and HDR at the same time.
Normally if you have done that without the script, you would just lose the Anti-Aliasing when you activate HDR. But that wont happen now. You will still have the full Anti-Aliasing activated if you have that activated in your graphic card option.
Now enjoy the awesome graphic in EVE .
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:27:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 13/11/2008 01:36:44
Originally by: Bob Niac Please be careful when running scripts inside of your client's folder. You usually dont know what it does / could do.
This script is 100% safe to use. I use it on both TQ and Sisi.
Simply, the script are just making the 'bin-hdr' folder in your main EVE folder, then it takes copy of the whole bin folder and place that in the 'bin-hdr' folder and then automaticly renames the 'ExeFile.exe' file to 'oblivion.exe' in the 'bin-hdr' folder.
Then it makes you a shortcut of the 'oblivion.exe' file to your Desktop, and the shortvut is called 'EVE Online - HDR'.
Here is a picture of the script opened in Notepad: LINK. Now tell me, do you find anything fishy there? .
That's what it does.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Avenger Garius Will the devs try and kill us or do they not care? Cause AA and HDR...... *Falls off chair*
CCP have even said that the EVE graphic engine, also Trinity 2 doesn't even support Anti-Aliasing, so that's the reason you can't enable Anti-Aliasing ingame.
But still, it works by forcing the graphic driver to use Anti-Aliasing.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 13:40:00 -
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Forgot to tell that i have an old Radeon X1900XT card, so by running Anti-Aliasing and HDR and with full Anisotropic Filtering at the same time, it hurts my performance in EVE badly, so nornally i don't run EVE with HDR on then, only the Anti-Aliasing and the Anisotropic Filtering are at full.
But on sisi i run EVE with HDR on sometimes though.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 13/11/2008 14:17:25
Originally by: Stric Dusko one question:
do i have to go to the ati control panel and force AA on, or can i leave it on "let application control this" (or something to that effect) in order for this script to work?
i also have the x1900xt card, will this significantly impact my performance?
i think i'd rather have AA than HDR (if having both is not an option, if it's too slow as the result), as jagged blinking lines across the screen annoy me far more than lack of HDR would.
Yes since EVE Online officially doesn't support Anti-Aliasing, then you can't activate Anti-Aliasing ingame, so you have to enable Anti-Aliasing in the graphic card driver settings.
Yes, running with everything on max will take your FPS alot down. I think i had around 12-16 FPS on sisi last time on sisi in space. So i would guess it will be better to run EVE with Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filtering instead then.
But for those who have the newest graphic cards from ATI, you can run everything on full without any problems though.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:55:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 13/11/2008 14:55:44
Originally by: Stric Dusko Edited by: Stric Dusko on 13/11/2008 14:37:41
Originally by: NightmareX
Yes since EVE Online officially doesn't support Anti-Aliasing, then you can't activate Anti-Aliasing ingame, so you have to enable Anti-Aliasing in the graphic card driver settings.
Yes, running with everything on max will take your FPS alot down. I think i had around 12-16 FPS on sisi last time on sisi in space. So i would guess it will be better to run EVE with Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filtering instead then.
But for those who have the newest graphic cards from ATI, you can run everything on full without any problems though.
Thank you. 
Edit: Sorry, just to make this clear.
If I enable AA and AntiAliasing in ATI control panel, and don't care about HDR, then I don't even need this script at all, do I? The script is only necessary if you want AA/AntiAliasing and HDR together, right?
And also, if I enable AA, and NOT run the script, then enabling/disabling HDR in EVE will have no effect (it will be OFF, regardless), correct?
Question 1: Yes that's correct.
Question 2: If you don't use the script, you can still enable HDR in EVE ingame, but you will lose the Anti-Aliasing in EVE if you enable HDR even when Anti-Aliasing it's forced to be on in the graphic card driver settings.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Marmios Edited by: Marmios on 13/11/2008 14:59:47 How do i get AA in the driver to work? Got it on 8x AA and 16x AF. No AA ingame.
Does it have to Full Screen or Windowed mode?
Any ideas?
It works in both windowed and full screen mode.
But you might have to reboot you computer to get the Anti-Aliasing to work. Because i know that if you have been playing some games that you play in full screen and then exit the game, then the ATI driver sometimes use to get some bugged in some ways. And wont allow you to have AA on even when it's enabled.
So the only way to fix that is to reboot your computer.
But if you still have the problem after that, then let me know.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Marmios Thank you very much! It works.
NP mate, i'm just happy to help when ATI or CCP wont help you to get this HDR and AA thing to work without using scripts or whatever other stuffs to get it to work like it should.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:58:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 13/11/2008 23:01:18
Originally by: Adamantium Beams Edited by: Adamantium Beams on 13/11/2008 22:23:07 Is there something like aTunner who work on the last ATi ? (i hate the CCC and i just want an easy soft to adjust my VSync/FSAA/AF)
nHancer doesnt work, rivatuner doesnt have this options and ATT have too much options :(
Have you tried this one?: LINK.
EDIT: Ops, you already said something about ATT, so other than that, i don't think there is any better alternatives than ATT if you don't like the Catalyst Control Center atm.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Dax Bandar IDK, tried opening with winrar and 7-zip, both say unknown format or damaged.
I just downloaded the file and opened the zip file with WinRAR 3.80, and it worked perfect here to extract the file.
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Posted - 2008.11.14 04:56:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 14/11/2008 04:57:12
Originally by: Irena Kropotkin wtfugly hack, how the frack can renaming the exefile enable hdr+fsaa?!
Because ATI have integrated a function in the ATI graphic driver that makes games like Oblivion or Fallout 3 to be able to use Anti-Aliasing and HDR at the same time. There is a hidden fix in the driver than enable those games to be player with AA and HDR on.
But ATI doesn't have that thing for EVE online in the driver, so we are just renaming the 'ExeFile.exe' file to 'oblivion.exe', because that will cheat the graphic driver to think we are running Oblivion instead of EVE Online, and then we can enable HDR when you have Anti-Aliasing on.
Or if i for example are renaming the 'oblivion.exe' file in the Oblivion game folder, if you have that game installed, and then rename it to 'ExeFile.exe', then you will see that you can't run Oblivion with AA and HDR at the same time. Because the driver thinks your not running Oblivion.
That's how it works.
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Posted - 2008.11.17 02:17:00 -
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Posted - 2008.11.18 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Litre Cola Edited by: Litre Cola on 18/11/2008 02:33:29 not working for ati 4870. downloaded, extracted to main eve folder ran the script. forced aa in CCC, 4x, 8x, 24x, as well as adaptive aa. still got jaggies. aa doesn't seem to work with or without HDR enabled. I don't get any performance hit either so i dont' think i'm just being picky with the shimmering jaggies on my ship at certain angles and all stations/jumpgates. this is with catalyst 8.9 tho, i can't see 8.10 or 8.11 really addressing this issue so i haven't and most likely won't update to those drivers unless i have issues specifically fixed within those newer drivers.
Tried to restart your computer after you used the VBR script?.
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Posted - 2008.11.21 16:44:00 -
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Time for another bump.
I'll guess more peoples want to know about this though .
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Posted - 2009.01.10 01:16:00 -
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Woot. Time to bump this topic so more can get this to work .
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Posted - 2009.01.24 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Azulya I tried everything in that topic but none of it will even work to run anti-aliasing with OR without HDR. I even tried disabling premium graphics but still no anti-aliasing whatsoever. I tried forcing it in ATI Tray Tools to 2, 4, and 6. None of it works at all.
Tried adaptive anti-aliasing and temporal anti-aliasing as well.. no luck with those, either.
Is it now impossible to enable ANY kind of anti-aliasing under ANY circumstances for EVE? I don't think I'm going to waste money renewing my subscription if there can't even be AA anymore.
Edit: Damn I can't even find the button to e-mail subscribe to the topic. Where is it??? =/ These forums are pretty messed up lately.
Well it must be something with your graphic driver then.
Normally it helps in 90% of the cases to reboot your computer. Because i know for a fact that the Catalyst driver can mess up in some ways and you can't get Anti-Aliasing whatever you do, until you reboot your computer. Then i will hopefully work, for you to, as long you haven't done it already.
Originally by: huxorator Is there a way to have this fix working with Evelauncher? I am logged in with 2 windowed accounts all the time, so I need Evelauncher to position my windows - this will be a problem with a shortcut on my desktop, right?
Not sure about it with EVELauncher.
But about the shortcut icon to the EVE client with HDR. When you run that VBR script, the script will automaticly make you a new shortcut that you have to use with EVE when your running with HDR on.
If your thinking about the actually exe file that you need to run to be able to run EVE with HDR is located in the 'bin-hdr' folder in your main EVE folder where you have installed EVE. And in that folder you have to run the file that is called 'oblivion.exe'.
So not sure if you can choose what exe file you want to use in EVELauncher to get EVE to run there. But if you can, then just select that file in that folder to be the main exe file to that EVE profile.
Originally by: ZephyrLexx I have an ATI HD4870 and while I can run on maximum settings 8x AA / HDR / Bloom / full shadows / 1690x1050 resolution, try playing with that in even a small fleet battle and your game will either crash due to having AA forced and the game not supporting it (see: xx page forum thread in tech sub-forum about the issue) or you will get <15 FPS :( even though it looks very pretty..it's just not practical unfortunately
Yes HDR is reducing your performance ALOT, so you need at least one Radeon HD4870X2 graphic card to run that with ok FPS. So i will not directly recommend you to use it in a fleet fight. It's ok to use it in missions and things like that.
Yes when the graphic card is having a hard time, then you can get crashes. It happens sometimes to me to, but not often. When my graphic card have used all of it's memory and the client sometimes just freezes, then EVE just quits it self. My graphic card is only an old Radeon X1900XT card though.
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Posted - 2009.03.07 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 07/03/2009 11:41:23
Originally by: Sententiae mortifera Edited by: Sententiae mortifera on 06/03/2009 20:03:53 Edited by: Sententiae mortifera on 06/03/2009 20:03:38 Edited by: Sententiae mortifera on 06/03/2009 20:03:11 I canŠt run the VBR Scropt, after putting in the Main Eve folder.
I did a screenshot:
link: http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/a2l8-2-jpg.html
So I hope you can help me :)
Sry my English is very bad :(
Ok, after searching a little about that kind of error, it seems that you might have a little problem with your Windows .
I can't directly say what the problem is, because it can be alot of things that can cause it.
If you just downloaded the script file and then placed it in the main EVE folder and then run it, then it should run and do what it's supposed to do.
If it doesn't do that, then you have an error somewhere in your Windows that have with those scripts to do.
More than that i can't tell atm.
But just for an update on the script. It seems that the script doesn't work right now after the QR expansion, so i think hat have to be looked into.
Will give some more updates here if i find anything out.
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Posted - 2009.03.07 13:41:00 -
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Oh i forgot to ask if any others here have this Anti-Aliasing + HDR script working now?, or is it only me that have the problem to get it to work now?.
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Posted - 2009.05.21 14:00:00 -
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Alright. It seems that the script need to be changed in some ways to be able to work now.
But i have no idea on how to change it to get it to work. So maybe we have to ask the guy who made this script to look into it or something.
Yeah, the script doesn't work for me at all now.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Grez Edited by: Grez on 05/08/2009 13:26:42 Anyone else getting issues with AA and odd black bars across the left side and top of the screen now?
Wondering if it's a driver issue :(.
This thing still comes up from time to time with ATI Catalyst Software Suite v9.8 for Windows 7 for me.
It's kinda bad if your frapsing a fight and then this thing happens .
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Posted - 2009.09.15 16:59:00 -
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The problem with the black bar on top of the screen is something that comes if we encounter a graphic bug. Like now, now my screen can be 100% normal, until i warp into a belt.
Because with AA and HDR on the same time, you will get those white circles that are blinking on the asteroids, and the first thing that happens when i warp into a belt where the white circle bug are, then i instantly get the black bar on top of the screen.
So as i think it is, then i think you will get that bug when you comes over another graphic bug.
But ofc, correct me if i'm wrong.
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