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Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.11.13 22:54:00 - [1] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 13/11/2008 22:55:28 Originally by: ArcDragon Shows that they at least took SOME steps to prevent theft and cons, and why would you not do that for your player base??? Because they are in-game items, and in-game items are subject to scamming. You really think CCP didn't think about this carefully? That they can be contracted is CCP's statement on them. Originally by: ArcDragon I personally do not feel that these should be subject to scamming as they are literaly real money. This is also incorrect, they are not real money. They are items bought with real money. - DesuSigs
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.11.13 23:11:00 - [2] Originally by: ArcDragon So I will reitterate: Why would you NOT prevent scamming to a larger degree just for this item BECAUSE IT IS REAL LIFE MONEY? Because it is not real money. Because the purpose of putting it in the in-game market is to make it subject to the in-game market, and the in-game market includes scamming. Originally by: ArcDragon Quit being daft about it and admit that it should be treated differently than other items. Your argument as to why is illogical. Quit being daft and accept that the way you want things to be isn't necessarily the way they should be. - DesuSigs
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.11.13 23:54:00 - [3] Originally by: ArcDragon Here is the scam: I make a Want to Buy order for a game time token stating in the description that others choose my contract over others for (at first) to state "Want to Buy: 1 GTC for 450m" I put in only 450,000 isk, or perhaps, 45,000,000 isk. Typos happen all the time. Originally by: Mire Stoude Originally by: Crumplecorn You really think CCP didn't think about this carefully? Because we all know that CCP has a long history of thinking of things carefully before they announce/make changes. And they always have an answer ready when people question them on the changes, right? - DesuSigs
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.11.14 00:26:00 - [4] Originally by: I SoStoned IMO there needs to be a function in the market that filters out buy and sell orders exceeding a median percentage you can choose (i.e. No buy orders show more than 100% below or sell orders more than 100% above the median regional average). Quoting as it demonstrates the poster's knowledge of the game. - DesuSigs
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.11.14 00:53:00 - [5] Originally by: Kala'Sindra Originally by: Crumplecorn Typos happen all the time. Are you insinuating that CCP can't punish people for making a typo in those situations? I see no reason for that to be the case If they want to they can, but why punish people for typos? That's just mean. - DesuSigs
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.11.14 00:58:00 - [6] Originally by: Kala'Sindra Originally by: Crumplecorn That's just mean. Well this is EVE CCP don't usually take such a direct hand in the meanness though. Though it might be funny if they did. Like "Hey you, yeah you, AFKing in the freighter. You're in lowsec, but there's no-one around to, eh, educate you. So we just cancelled your account. Ha ha - the GMs". - DesuSigs
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.11.14 01:23:00 - [7] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 14/11/2008 01:25:15 Originally by: Brea Lafail If these things were just another game item, you would be able to undock with them. A interesting point. However, the logic behind this is easily deduced. The reason they don't let you remove them from station (and I believe this has been stated) is so they don't inadvertently end up getting destroyed. If this were allowed, it would be possible for CCP to receive a payment for subscription time, and have it rendered impossible for that subscription time to be redeemed, essentially allowing CCP to get money for nothing. This would be unacceptable, as in this instance real money is lost, an item with real world value is bought, and that real world value is removed. However, this logic does not apply to scamming, as the PLEX card can still be used after a scam, a player has merely done themselves out of some in-game ISKies. The real-world value of the item is intact, all the 'damage' is done purely in-game, and such in-game losses are part of EVE life. So, while there is a genuine reason to treat them as a special item to prevent their destruction, the only reason one could have to treat them as a special item to prevent scamming is still to protect stupid players. tl;dr: Destroying a PLEX card destroys real world value, scamming merely parts you with ISKies. - DesuSigs
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.11.14 23:29:00 - [8] Originally by: ArcDragon The same crap again PLEX cards aren't real money. It being treated in a special manner as regards movement does not imply that it should necessarily be treated in a special manner as regards anything else. Since your entire argument is still predicated on these, it fails. Originally by: ArcDragon scamming (theft) Idiot. - DesuSigs

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