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Mostly Amazing Gallente Mostly Amazing Corp	Posted - 2008.11.15 15:37:00 - [1] 1a EVE gives a new ship to fly 1b WoW gives a new class to play 2a EvE introduces certificates to track achievements 2b WoW introduces Achievements to track achievements 3a EvE introduces alchemy to transform one material into another 3b WoW introduces new transmutes in alchemy to transform one material into another 4a EvE introduces new music 4b WoW introduces more music 5a EvE introduces better network technology 5b WoW introduces better network technology 6a EvE introduces medals to award people 6b WoW introduces new marks of honor to award people 7a EvE introduces new stargates 7b WoW introduces new boats 8a EvE reduces speed mods to reduce the insane speeds 8b WoW removes flying mounts to reduce speeds 9a+b EvE and WoW expansion are both released within 24 hours of eachother Now slap me silly and call me suzy, but it looks like CCP just copied WoW and introduced it a few hours earlier to get people to stick to EVE and not run off to WoW! I'm on to you.... -------------- I R Not Completely Amazing, But I R Mostly Amazing
Jana Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.11.15 15:39:00 - [2] ... Join New Eden Research today and never worry about queues again!
Xanos Blackpaw Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2008.11.15 15:40:00 - [3] Originally by: Mostly Amazing 1a EVE gives a new ship to fly 1b WoW gives a new class to play 2a EvE introduces certificates to track achievements 2b WoW introduces Achievements to track achievements 3a EvE introduces alchemy to transform one material into another 3b WoW introduces new transmutes in alchemy to transform one material into another 4a EvE introduces new music 4b WoW introduces more music 5a EvE introduces better network technology 5b WoW introduces better network technology 6a EvE introduces medals to award people 6b WoW introduces new marks of honor to award people 7a EvE introduces new stargates 7b WoW introduces new boats 8a EvE reduces speed mods to reduce the insane speeds 8b WoW removes flying mounts to reduce speeds 9a+b EvE and WoW expansion are both released within 24 hours of eachother Now slap me silly and call me suzy, but it looks like CCP just copied WoW and introduced it a few hours earlier to get people to stick to EVE and not run off to WoW! I'm on to you.... slaps suzy! Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi".
Maria Kalista	Posted - 2008.11.15 15:40:00 - [4] Edited by: Maria Kalista on 15/11/2008 15:40:17 WoW just copied EVE and introduced it a few hours to late so people stick to EVE and do not run off to WoW! Originally by: CCP Mitnal You put a bear in your tea??? Clear Skies - an EVE vid with a difference.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2008.11.15 15:41:00 - [5] Yes that is exactly what they did... Secure 3rd party service ■ Veldspar

Cruel Crow Aeon Interstellar Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.11.15 15:44:00 - [6] 8a EvE reduces speed mods to reduce the insane speeds Nothing has change - ccp counter it with missile nerf "Now it will just happen at half speed!"
Mostly Amazing Gallente Mostly Amazing Corp	Posted - 2008.11.15 15:44:00 - [7] They both introduced Orca's, only in WoW they fight back! -------------- I R Not Completely Amazing, But I R Mostly Amazing
itasteofcheese	Posted - 2008.11.15 15:44:00 - [8] Originally by: 8a EvE reduces speed mods to reduce the insane speeds 8b WoW removes flying mounts to reduce speeds [/quote wow have not got rid of flying mounts...., at least get your facts right
Grawshellar Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.11.15 15:46:00 - [9] Edited by: Grawshellar on 15/11/2008 15:46:36 Originally by: itasteofcheese Originally by: 8a EvE reduces speed mods to reduce the insane speeds 8b WoW removes flying mounts to reduce speeds [/quote wow have not got rid of flying mounts...., at least get your facts right Look! I found a WoW player! WoW sucks, EvE rocks
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.11.15 15:47:00 - [10] Originally by: Mostly Amazing Now slap me silly and call me suzy, but it looks like CCP just copied WoW and introduced it a few hours earlier to get people to stick to EVE and not run off to WoW! I could point out the various flaws with your comparisons, but it is easier to point out that people aren't going to switch games due to improvements to gameplay they have never taken part in. But, to avoid being a spoilsport, I will don my tinfoil hat.
Elliot Reid Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.11.15 16:07:00 - [11] 10a Blizzard charge ú24.99 rrp for new WoW expansion 10b CCP charge ú0 rrp for new EVE expansion _______________________________________ Atheism, a non-prophet organisation
Jim Hazard	Posted - 2008.11.15 16:41:00 - [12] Originally by: Mostly Amazing 1a EVE gives a new ship to fly 1b WoW gives a new class to play 2a EvE introduces certificates to track achievements 2b WoW introduces Achievements to track achievements 3a EvE introduces alchemy to transform one material into another 3b WoW introduces new transmutes in alchemy to transform one material into another 4a EvE introduces new music 4b WoW introduces more music 5a EvE introduces better network technology 5b WoW introduces better network technology 6a EvE introduces medals to award people 6b WoW introduces new marks of honor to award people 7a EvE introduces new stargates 7b WoW introduces new boats 8a EvE reduces speed mods to reduce the insane speeds 8b WoW removes flying mounts to reduce speeds 9a+b EvE and WoW expansion are both released within 24 hours of eachother Now slap me silly and call me suzy, but it looks like CCP just copied WoW and introduced it a few hours earlier to get people to stick to EVE and not run off to WoW! I'm on to you.... 1 added to KOS list for comparing eve with WoW. 2 added again to KOS list for knowing so much about the WoW expansion 3 If anything WoW copied the EvE expansion and now.. go back to WoW
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2008.11.15 16:45:00 - [13] Several of the things with the latest WoW expansion is inspired by Warhammer. At the same time Warhammer had alot of similarities with WoW. The achievement system is integrated in Warhammer, it had it before both WoW and EVE.. not to mention other games had it before that. Oh wait snap, upgraded technology and new ships/classes/whatever? No expansion ever has that! ..WTS tinfoil hat, barely used, only 10mil!
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.15 16:46:00 - [14] Yep because the only reason I'm still playing Eve is the patch schedule.
Kobushi OCForums	Posted - 2008.11.15 16:51:00 - [15] and the cherry on top 10A Wow is a computer mmo make pretend internet game. 10B eve is a computer mmo make pretend internet game. ZOMG it's the sign of the devil the end is near...
ouroboros trading Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.11.15 16:57:00 - [16] **** me i just looked at the wow forums and they are exactly like the eve forums! 12a!!!! 12b!!!!!!
DeadRow Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.11.15 17:01:00 - [17] Originally by: Mostly Amazing They both introduced Orca's, only in WoW they fight back! rofl. Thought of Eve when I saw one in northrend Dx Norrin Ellis > What?! Boobs aren't inappropriate! They feed children! For God's sake, think of the children!
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.11.15 17:02:00 - [18] 12a Eve forums have a large number of stupid threads post patch. 12b WoW forums have a large number of stupid threads post patch. (Percentage wise based on normal stupid threads vs normal stupid threads after a patch) Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
ebonyivory	Posted - 2008.11.15 17:02:00 - [19] Originally by: Elliot Reid 10a Blizzard charge ú24.99 rrp for new WoW expansion 10b CCP charge ú0 rrp for new EVE expansion no they just charge in wasted skillpoints instead...
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.11.15 17:02:00 - [20] Originally by: ebonyivory Originally by: Elliot Reid 10a Blizzard charge ú24.99 rrp for new WoW expansion 10b CCP charge ú0 rrp for new EVE expansion no they just charge in wasted skillpoints instead... OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOOOLLLLL U R SO COOL AND EDGY LOLOLOOLLLLOLLOLO!@@!!!!!1111 Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Ticondrius Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.15 17:04:00 - [21] Edited by: Ticondrius on 15/11/2008 17:04:12 Let's see... WoW: $60 to buy the game, $15/mo thereafter -Launch: $60 -Burning Crusade: $120 (requires the base game) -Wrath of the Lich King: $180 (requires the base game and previous expansions) EVE: $20 to activate account, $15/mo thereafter -Launch: free -Castor: free -Shiva/Exodus: free -Shiva/Exodus: Cold War: free -Shiva/Exodus: Red Moon Rising: free -Kali 1/Revelations I: free -Kali 2/Revelations II: free -Kali 2/Trinity: free -?/Empyrean Age: free -?/Quantum Rise: free /thread -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- RABBLE! RABBLERABBLE!! MMORPG: Many Men Online Role Playing Girls
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.11.15 17:23:00 - [22] Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 15/11/2008 17:23:41 Eve expansion = Wow expansion Eve ~~expansion~~ = Wow ~~expansion~~ therefor, Eve = Wow We all know that.
linux4ever n0thing Inc. Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2008.11.15 17:26:00 - [23] Originally by: Ticondrius Edited by: Ticondrius on 15/11/2008 17:04:12 Let's see... WoW: $60 to buy the game, $15/mo thereafter -Launch: $60 -Burning Crusade: $120 (requires the base game) -Wrath of the Lich King: $180 (requires the base game and previous expansions) EVE: $20 to activate account, $15/mo thereafter -Launch: free -Castor: free -Shiva/Exodus: free -Shiva/Exodus: Cold War: free -Shiva/Exodus: Red Moon Rising: free -Kali 1/Revelations I: free -Kali 2/Revelations II: free -Kali 2/Trinity: free -?/Empyrean Age: free -?/Quantum Rise: free /thread OMG FINALLY SOMEONE GOT IT thanks alot to pointing that out to all the others... ^^
Hooded Person Amarr	Posted - 2008.11.15 17:47:00 - [24] Originally by: Ticondrius Edited by: Ticondrius on 15/11/2008 17:04:12 Let's see... WoW: $60 to buy the game, $15/mo thereafter -Launch: $60 -Burning Crusade: $120 (requires the base game) -Wrath of the Lich King: $180 (requires the base game and previous expansions) EVE: $20 to activate account, $15/mo thereafter -Launch: free -Castor: free -Shiva/Exodus: free -Shiva/Exodus: Cold War: free -Shiva/Exodus: Red Moon Rising: free -Kali 1/Revelations I: free -Kali 2/Revelations II: free -Kali 2/Trinity: free -?/Empyrean Age: free -?/Quantum Rise: free /thread THIS!!!!
Sidus Isaacs	Posted - 2008.11.15 17:54:00 - [25] EVE = awsome WOW = not awsome
InVictus Kell Gallente Tactical Solutions Inc.	Posted - 2008.11.15 18:14:00 - [26] Originally by: Ticondrius Edited by: Ticondrius on 15/11/2008 17:04:12 Let's see... WoW: $60 to buy the game, $15/mo thereafter -Launch: $60 -Burning Crusade: $120 (requires the base game) -Wrath of the Lich King: $180 (requires the base game and previous expansions) EVE: $20 to activate account, $15/mo thereafter -Launch: free -Castor: free -Shiva/Exodus: free -Shiva/Exodus: Cold War: free -Shiva/Exodus: Red Moon Rising: free -Kali 1/Revelations I: free -Kali 2/Revelations II: free -Kali 2/Trinity: free -?/Empyrean Age: free -?/Quantum Rise: free /thread you win the forums!
Lochmar Fiendhiem Caldari Quicksilver Industries and Painful Effects Inc.	Posted - 2008.11.15 18:36:00 - [27] The new wow expansion doesn't have flying mounts... yet.... you need to do ****ed things to get them or some **. Also wow blows they made it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too easy for it to be enjoyable to any extent. Thats why most of my wow guild now plays eve in some form or another.
Lord Haur Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.11.15 18:45:00 - [28] Originally by: Ticondrius -Kali 3/Trinity: free -Kali 4/Empyrean Age: free -Midas/Quantum Rise: free Fixed your expansion code-names
KrampfyV1 Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.11.15 18:49:00 - [29] i must have got confused and downloaded the wrong patch, wondered why there were orcs hanging on to my hulk
Minny Sky	Posted - 2008.11.15 18:59:00 - [30] wow is my favorite game
Zak Zerachiel Caldari Slacker Industries	Posted - 2008.11.15 19:14:00 - [31] I will allow you, just this once, to contract all your stuff to Zak Zerachiel, at a nominal fee of 1M isk.
Mostly Amazing Gallente Mostly Amazing Corp	Posted - 2008.11.15 19:55:00 - [32] Originally by: Elliot Reid 10a Blizzard charge ú24.99 rrp for new WoW expansion 10b CCP charge ú0 rrp for new EVE expansion That is because an EvE "Expansion" is perhaps 5% actual new content and 95% ship/structure/window attribute updates and fixes whereas a WoW expansion is actually an expansion. I doubt anybody would be playing EvE anymore if CCP asked money for their patches... I mean expansions... -------------- I R Not Completely Amazing, But I R Mostly Amazing
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.11.15 20:08:00 - [33] they didn't remove flying mounts. god this forum is getting just as bad. http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html;jsessionid=5BB7F5AB8151519C7D2D567BFA477606.app06_08?topicId=5901610265&sid=1
Cpt Lollercakes Warriors of COAD	Posted - 2008.11.15 20:15:00 - [34] Originally by: Elliot Reid 10a Blizzard charge ú24.99 rrp for new WoW expansion 10b CCP charge ú0 rrp for new EVE expansion The great irony being: If it was practical to make the expansion optional, CCP could probably got a lot of people to pay ú25 to NOT have it.
General Ric	Posted - 2008.11.15 20:16:00 - [35] This is possibly the worst MMO comparison I have ever seen... An EVE expansion is like a WoW major patch at best, the WoW expansion completely blows the latest EVE "expansion" out of the water in terms of new content, game mechanics updates, etc. Now I stopped playing WoW about a year ago, so I don't have first hand experience with what is in the new expansion, but just the early leaks and previews of WotLK that were available at that time would make the QR patch look tiny in comparison. That being said, CCP has nowhere near the resources that are available to Blizzard for content development - WoW expansions likely represent at least a year (maybe two) of work done by a team with more employees than all of the developers for CCP put together. They are also very different games that don't really lend themselves well to this type of comparison, to add a new "class" to EVE you would need to add basically an entirely new race with a variety of ships and a unique fighting style. You would also need to throw in a new weapon type, some new types of modules and the relevant skills to operate them and improve their performance.
Kurt Ambrose Caldari Digital assassins G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.15 20:18:00 - [36] CCP is Blizzards alt corperation
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.11.15 20:19:00 - [37] Originally by: General Ric This is possibly the worst MMO comparison I have ever seen... An EVE expansion is like a WoW major patch at best, the WoW expansion completely blows the latest EVE "expansion" out of the water in terms of new content, game mechanics updates, etc. Now I stopped playing WoW about a year ago, so I don't have first hand experience with what is in the new expansion, but just the early leaks and previews of WotLK that were available at that time would make the QR patch look tiny in comparison. That being said, CCP has nowhere near the resources that are available to Blizzard for content development - WoW expansions likely represent at least a year (maybe two) of work done by a team with more employees than all of the developers for CCP put together. They are also very different games that don't really lend themselves well to this type of comparison, to add a new "class" to EVE you would need to add basically an entirely new race with a variety of ships and a unique fighting style. You would also need to throw in a new weapon type, some new types of modules and the relevant skills to operate them and improve their performance. I'm sorry but the expansion doesn't even stand up to the past 2 years of work CCP has dont. sure this expansino sucks, but it's only 6 months of work. take the past 2 years into acount, that's 4 expansions for wow's one. CCP had about 100 people working on eve compared to wows 30-40.
Epidemis	Posted - 2008.11.15 20:49:00 - [38] Eve "expansions" are roughly alittle under half of a WoW "patch".
General Ric	Posted - 2008.11.15 20:51:00 - [39] Edited by: General Ric on 15/11/2008 20:53:27 Originally by: MotherMoon I'm sorry but the expansion doesn't even stand up to the past 2 years of work CCP has dont. sure this expansino sucks, but it's only 6 months of work. take the past 2 years into acount, that's 4 expansions for wow's one. CCP had about 100 people working on eve compared to wows 30-40. I'm sorry, but so far from what I've seen in EVE in terms of PvE content it doesn't compare at all in any way to WoW... the quests in WoW are much more involving, relevant and entertaining than the equivalent missions in EVE, which are basically just the same thing recycled over and over again. Missions in EVE are basically just mining expeditions where the asteroids shoot back at you. Graphically the zones in WoW blow anything that EVE has to offer out of the water, both in quantity and quality. The AI in WoW are also a lot more interesting and varied - both graphically and in terms of their skills and abilities. In EVE its basically just the same recycled pirates and rogue drones, with stronger NPCs having more tank and more DPS, with a bigger bounty and more loot. Also, as much as I hate to say it, from a lore perspective WoW meshes together much better than EVE does. In EVE there are vast expanses of space that are just there with no real purpose other than to provide room for a growing player base, while every zone in WoW has a back story and a purpose in the game. While the back story for EVE is interesting and compelling, it just hasn't been woven into the game the same way that the story in WoW has. The thing that really makes EVE unique is the very real and sometimes harsh reality that you are forced to interact and compete with other players. EVE also has a very unique take on the evolving universe - in a game like WoW the universe is pretty much set in stone and you can't do anything to change it, while in EVE it is much more flexible. You also aren't forced to kill things to level up and access higher level content in EVE, you can play the game in a variety of different ways and "leveling up" is more a matter of patience than anything else. Lets also not forget that EVE is based in a sci-fi universe instead of the done to death fantasy universe. But what is important to note about all these things that make EVE a quality, noteworthy game is that they have largely been in the game since it was conceived, most improvements since then have basically been an attempt to make the game more appealing to the masses. But as I said before you really need to take into account that Blizzard has easily 100x the resources at its disposal as CCP does. MMOGs really take the expression "economy of scale" to a whole new level, and you really can't expect EVE (or most other games for that matter) to compete in any way with WoW when it comes to content development.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.11.15 21:05:00 - [40] Edited by: MotherMoon on 15/11/2008 21:05:03 Originally by: Epidemis Eve "expansions" are roughly alittle under half of a WoW "patch". no ofence but wow as a game hasn't really changed in the past 4 years. sure it's different, but it just goes in circles while eve goes forward.
Evil Fluffy	Posted - 2008.11.15 21:36:00 - [41] Originally by: Kobushi and the cherry on top 10A Wow is a computer mmo make pretend internet game. 10B eve is a computer mmo make pretend internet game. ZOMG it's the sign of the devil the end is near... Wait EVE isn't real?
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.11.15 21:37:00 - [42] Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 15/11/2008 21:38:34 Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 15/11/2008 21:05:03 Originally by: Epidemis Eve "expansions" are roughly alittle under half of a WoW "patch". no ofence but wow as a game hasn't really changed in the past 4 years. sure it's different, but it just goes in circles while eve goes forward. Quit shattering the bubble with logic. As far as PvE, yea, WoW might be great for that. But it still pales in comparison to virtually any single player RPG coming out these days.
Evil Fluffy	Posted - 2008.11.15 21:40:00 - [43] Originally by: MotherMoon I'm sorry but the expansion doesn't even stand up to the past 2 years of work CCP has done. sure this expansion sucks, but it's only 6 months of work. take the past 2 years into account, that's 4 expansions for wow's one. CCP had about 100 people working on eve compared to wows 30-40. Wait what? This looks like a lot more than 30-40 people to me.

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