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Crazy Tasty Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.11.15 18:54:00 - [1] Now everyone gets to feel the love that had been previously reserved for Minmatar space? Last night followed a guy through and had him pop up 53k away, so it seem like they are even worse that the Minny gates, most I'd ever noticed on them was about 40k. Guess my point is what the hell was the point of making so many more huge gates, more protection for the carebares in low sec or FW? On a related note the nerfed webs are now epic for carebare protection to. Had a 8 man BS gang jump into our gang last night, we had 5 BS 2 BC and a Cruiser. Even duel webbed the plated BS's could make it back to the gates, awesomeness.
Arzal omen. IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.11.15 19:06:00 - [2] scramblers and webs will sort your plated bs's running away problems, that or a hammer. 2ndly i think the new gates are good, adds an element of them getting away, how many people have i caught just reaproaching the gate after jumping though after someone, its dull, now its more interesting.
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.11.15 19:11:00 - [3] Scramblers don't immediately deactivate MWD. If activated on a ship, they deactivate his next MWD cycle.
Montmorency I.M.M Elitist Cowards	Posted - 2008.11.15 19:44:00 - [4] Should of called the Patch EvE Online - The Arazu Edition Need one in a gang to catch stuff on the new giant gates....
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.11.15 20:15:00 - [5] Originally by: Montmorency Should of called the Patch EvE Online - The Arazu Edition Need one in a gang to catch stuff on the new giant gates.... Won't cut it, you also need a Rapier. --- I smack just for myself. [orange]Your signature is too large. Please resi
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.15 20:58:00 - [6] Originally by: Muad' Dib Originally by: Montmorency Should of called the Patch EvE Online - The Arazu Edition Need one in a gang to catch stuff on the new giant gates.... Won't cut it, you also need a Rapier. I have to say that yes, you will need a rapier, and you also will need TP's. I know, shocking. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.11.15 21:00:00 - [7] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Muad' Dib Originally by: Montmorency Should of called the Patch EvE Online - The Arazu Edition Need one in a gang to catch stuff on the new giant gates.... Won't cut it, you also need a Rapier. I have to say that yes, you will need a rapier, and you also will need TP's. I know, shocking. Rapier with tp's. --- I smack just for myself. [orange]Your signature is too large. Please resi
Aesheera Amarr Malum Crusis IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.11.15 21:35:00 - [8] Originally by: Muad' Dib Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 15/11/2008 19:21:10 Scramblers don't immediately deactivate MWD. If activated on a ship, they deactivate his next MWD cycle. I havent tested it myself, but according to the patchnotes it INSTANTLY ends your mwd cycle. -- It's Great Being Amarr, Isn't It?!?! We are recruiting pirates! Clicky!
Avaricia The Accursed	Posted - 2008.11.15 22:14:00 - [9] don't forget the universal agility changes, making cruisers warp like frigates. now you have to remote sensor boost your blob's dedicated tacklers too. face it, at this point ccp is focusing the whole of their effort into making pvp consensual, whether or not they'll admit it.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.15 23:11:00 - [10] Originally by: Muad' Dib Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Muad' Dib Originally by: Montmorency Should of called the Patch EvE Online - The Arazu Edition Need one in a gang to catch stuff on the new giant gates.... Won't cut it, you also need a Rapier. I have to say that yes, you will need a rapier, and you also will need TP's. I know, shocking. Rapier with tp's. and probably a web or two
Rivur'Tam Fatality.	Posted - 2008.11.15 23:17:00 - [11] Originally by: Avaricia don't forget the universal agility changes, making cruisers warp like frigates. now you have to remote sensor boost your blob's dedicated tacklers too. face it, at this point ccp is focusing the whole of their effort into making pvp consensual, whether or not they'll admit it. /Signed ofc someone will flame saying it isn't so , but then they are too busy reading fourms than actually playing. .. I like teh secs and teh boobies
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.11.15 23:19:00 - [12] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Muad' Dib Rapier with tp's. and probably a web or two You can have both, tp's and webbs ... notice the plural. --- I smack just for myself. [orange]Your signature is too large. Please resi
Crazy Tasty Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.11.15 23:21:00 - [13] Originally by: Rivur'Tam Originally by: Avaricia don't forget the universal agility changes, making cruisers warp like frigates. now you have to remote sensor boost your blob's dedicated tacklers too. face it, at this point ccp is focusing the whole of their effort into making pvp consensual, whether or not they'll admit it. /Signed ofc someone will flame saying it isn't so , but then they are too busy reading fourms than actually playing. I'll Q that for T. But its been happening little by little for as long as I've been playing now. ------ // This is by design. When a ship jumps through a gate, it clears all aggression. // - BH ******** Pew on gate, if it gets hot, jump through and Ctrl-Q. Game mechanic endorsed by CCP.
Amarr'd Amarr	Posted - 2008.11.16 00:44:00 - [14] So from this thread I have derived that you need a raiper/huggin arazu/lachesis with 2 webs at least and a target painter or 2 on the raiper/huggin a lachesis/arazu with a scram and a disruptor or 2 K anything else?
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.11.16 00:57:00 - [15] Sensor Boosters, and remote repps on them so as not to have your recons ****d by sentries.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.16 01:10:00 - [16] Originally by: Muad' Dib Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Muad' Dib Rapier with tp's. and probably a web or two You can have both, tp's and webbs ... notice the plural. I know. but for some it will be something shocking. imagine, fitting webs AND tp's on a rapier/huggin. if this was 2 weeks ago, I would be labeled a mad one, but who's laughing now eh?
Buhhdust Princess Fatality.	Posted - 2008.11.16 11:15:00 - [17] tbh, you just gotta be smart about where to kill ur targets If it's a jump between 2 diff regions, the gate will be HEWGE!!! if its 2 diff constellations, the gate will be rather big (max 23km range off you) If its 2 normal system gates, it will be the normal short range gates (apart from minmatar.. lololol) <3 ________________________________________
Jalif Scorpion's Sting	Posted - 2008.11.16 11:20:00 - [18] o/ BYDI Well.. I notice it myself. Gatecamping just doesn't cut it for me atm. So I am now wardeccing people, ****es of the carebares even more. They want to destory my type of gameplay? I'll make their live even harder.
Build	Posted - 2008.11.16 13:17:00 - [19] I always belived the main point with the HIC or interdictor is to be able to cover the jumpin from a gatejump. Since its not doing so att all with the new gates I belive a major usage of this ships is lost???
DJ Tim Chin Chinnery	Posted - 2008.11.16 13:20:00 - [20] Originally by: Build I always belived the main point with the HIC or interdictor is to be able to cover the jumpin from a gatejump. Since its not doing so att all with the new gates I belive a major usage of this ships is lost??? Yeah, damn, they totally messed that one up didn't they. Make a ship with the sole purpose of covering a gate jump in and make the gates too big . Also gaiz I herd there's this ship class called capitals and there's like super capitals and stuff, the information i'm getting on them is pretty hazy. They might be a myth actually... --~-- Don't Worry Baby, You Can Touch My Chin Anytime.
Neyro7830 Gallente Stormfront A.W. Stormfront J.U.N.T.A.	Posted - 2008.11.16 13:50:00 - [21] Originally by: DJ Tim Originally by: Build I always belived the main point with the HIC or interdictor is to be able to cover the jumpin from a gatejump. Since its not doing so att all with the new gates I belive a major usage of this ships is lost??? Yeah, damn, they totally messed that one up didn't they. Make a ship with the sole purpose of covering a gate jump in and make the gates too big . Also gaiz I herd there's this ship class called capitals and there's like super capitals and stuff, the information i'm getting on them is pretty hazy. They might be a myth actually... Sorry I didn't ready any of that... your chin man... Your chin!!! ___ I cannot be held responsible for the above post, because apparently,my cat has learned to type. :3
Build	Posted - 2008.11.16 14:11:00 - [22] Did I say the sole purpose? Get your glases on pls Anyone got some real comments on this?
DJ Tim Chin Chinnery	Posted - 2008.11.16 14:12:00 - [23] Main point, sole purpose. Same difference. Either way you have a blatant lack of understanding of the game.
Build	Posted - 2008.11.16 14:16:00 - [24] And u making me understand the game better by explaining the real purpose of the HIC? Are everyone as friednly as u on the forums? If u got no god to say the stfu And dont say a HIC and interdictor not been used heavily to cover jump ins before patch. Seen plenty of them in 0.0. Ohh maybe u never been there:)
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis	Posted - 2008.11.16 14:44:00 - [25] Originally by: Build I always belived the main point with the HIC or interdictor is to be able to cover the jumpin from a gatejump. Since its not doing so att all with the new gates I belive a major usage of this ships is lost??? The main point of them would be to drop the bubble, not to be 0.0 entry point gate camping lulz made easy. Granted, you can use them for that, but to suggest that is the ONLY reason to use them is well.. daft
Mutabae	Posted - 2008.11.17 00:19:00 - [26] Originally by: Artemis Rose Originally by: Build I always belived the main point with the HIC or interdictor is to be able to cover the jumpin from a gatejump. Since its not doing so att all with the new gates I belive a major usage of this ships is lost??? The main point of them would be to drop the bubble, not to be 0.0 entry point gate camping lulz made easy. Granted, you can use them for that, but to suggest that is the ONLY reason to use them is well.. daft You forgot to mention CCP reduced the size of the t2 large bubbles, so you'll need multiple bubbles too. So, that's what... 5 ships or so just to try to lock down against a cruiser? Excellent work, CCP... really encouraging anti-blob tactics there. Yessir.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.11.17 02:21:00 - [27] so instead of camping the 0.0 entrance system go camp the next gate or blob the hell up if your entrance system is worth something.
Savage Roar Storm Thesis	Posted - 2008.11.17 03:12:00 - [28] all i can add to this, is that we had FOUR hics bubbling one of the ****** caldari gates up at m-o and a good half of the ships that came through still uncloaked outside the bubbles... gayness if ever there was such a thing... and yes, this is my sig. IBTL
Professor Atomic Totenkopf Division	Posted - 2008.11.17 05:31:00 - [29] Edited by: Professor Atomic on 17/11/2008 05:32:47 For a crew of your caliber (BYDI) I am surprised you haven't been using a Lach/Arazu + Rapier/Huginn combination already with them being remote repped. It has been mainstream for other outlaw Corps for a very long time. Or am I missing something? Edit: Also, for others that may try this, ensure your main tackler's Scan Res is superior to your Rapier/Huggin. Wouldn't want that web to give them a free warp.
Ugluuk Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.11.18 00:27:00 - [30] Originally by: Professor Atomic Edited by: Professor Atomic on 17/11/2008 05:32:47 For a crew of your caliber (BYDI) I am surprised you haven't been using a Lach/Arazu + Rapier/Huginn combination already with them being remote repped. It has been mainstream for other outlaw Corps for a very long time. Or am I missing something?. When you follow someone and jump in the arazu and rapier to tackle they take sentry aggro first.. And with the insanely huge gates you are lucky to get 1 remote repper even close to remote repping range.. Remote reps dont work that well when half the remote repping ships are almost 50k away from you.. Rapier cant tank at all, and Arazu aint the best tank ship in the world with sentry on it aswell.. I dont like to whine about patches but damn CCP, this one is hard to adapt too for a small corp that likes to roam and work solo..

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