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Pablo Shooni
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Posted - 2008.11.16 08:26:00 -
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what would be the best gallente cruiser for pvp after the patch? what would the setup look like on it?
same question goes for the gallente battleships |
arbiter reformed
Minmatar Systematic Chaos.
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Posted - 2008.11.16 09:12:00 -
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gonna say dominix and dominix anything from blaster dual repers too the nos nuet theing and not to forget the all important remote repping domi...
i really dont think megas are dead tho btw nor hyperions. on mega id defo go dual rep and ions tho |
techzer0
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.11.16 09:29:00 -
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Velator, hands down.
I still like the Vexor |
Elle D
The Taco Stand
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Posted - 2008.11.17 07:50:00 -
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It's not a cruiser but the Brutix is awesome bang for your buck. Dual Rep or plated, it dishes out awesome DPS and with named modules only costs 1-2mil more than a Thorax. I have my suicide Brutix fitting down to 2.7mil per loss.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.17 08:00:00 -
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Dominix, if you can stand to look at such a painfully ugly ship. One of the other drone boats, if you can't. Fit with neuts and laugh at all those pesky frigates when you drop a never-ending supply of light drones. Ignore the blaster ships though, they just suck. ----------- Blaster sig removed for now, pending those "changes we've been working on all day". CCP, don't screw this up.
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Yesukhei
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Posted - 2008.11.17 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Yesukhei on 17/11/2008 11:57:18 I'd rather train for Ishtar, instead of training for Dominix. And it looks nice.
Also, I've seen a nice Rokh sniper build, with 8 gauss' and all low slots fited with magnetic field stabilizers. Hitting enemy from 190 km sounds good if you have an interceptor tackler in your gang. Maybe, this build can be applied to Megathron or Hyperion. |
adriaans
Amarr Ankaa.
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Posted - 2008.11.17 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Elle D It's not a cruiser but the Brutix is awesome bang for your buck. Dual Rep or plated, it dishes out awesome DPS and with named modules only costs 1-2mil more than a Thorax. I have my suicide Brutix fitting down to 2.7mil per loss.
considering one loose about 6-8 mill after insurance just on a battlecruiser (any hull) i can't see how you can only loose 2-7 mill even if you t1 fit it....unless you get ships + modules for way below normal prices... -sig-
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.17 13:47:00 -
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Cruiser: Vexor BC: Myrmidon BS: Dominix (can you say 'horrible to look at?')
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Mickey Simon
Noir.
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Posted - 2008.11.17 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko Cruiser: Vexor BC: Myrmidon BS: Dominix (can you say 'horrible to look at?')
Pretty much this. Drone's are still effective if you're able to carry a few types and switch them out depending on your target. Blaster boats are much less effective, because it's much harder to get in range now (most people carry a scram, and that switches your MWD off), and because it's harder to slow someone down. Meanwhile, on the other side of town . . . |
Johnny Gurkha
Death Cult Covenant
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Posted - 2008.11.17 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Mickey Simon Blaster boats are much less effective, because it's much harder to get in range now (most people carry a scram, and that switches your MWD off), and because it's harder to slow someone down.
By the time you managed to scram a Brutix you'd be webbed and in armour... and god help you if they have ECM drones
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Mickey Simon
Noir.
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Posted - 2008.11.17 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Johnny Gurkha
Originally by: Mickey Simon Blaster boats are much less effective, because it's much harder to get in range now (most people carry a scram, and that switches your MWD off), and because it's harder to slow someone down.
By the time you managed to scram a Brutix you'd be webbed and in armour... and god help you if they have ECM drones
Assuming you're in a same class ship, then that's certainly a possibility, yes. Your point about ECM drones is also quite a good one. However, it still seems to be a little harder for blaster ships to get right in and disable an opponent though, especially if the opponent is either a smaller class, or fitting an AB. Meanwhile, on the other side of town . . . |
Shadow's Caress
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Posted - 2008.11.17 14:42:00 -
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If you're going strictly for cruisers, go with a blaster fitted thorax w/ ECM drones. Oh, and fit a MWD despite what others are saying. All you need it for is getting into range. It's a very very effective ship for it's price, and they are NASTY in small wolfpacks. I'm just glad caldari noobs never wizened up and traded their drakes for these things.
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Robert0288
Caldari g guild Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.11.17 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko Cruiser: Vexor BC: Myrmidon BS: Dominix (can you say 'horrible to look at?')
This or we can expand to other T2 ships
HAC: Ishtar (another drone boat) AF: Ishkur (yes more drones) inty: Both extremly good at what they do, speed/tackle or DPS (taranis)
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.17 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Robert0288
Originally by: Cpt Branko Cruiser: Vexor BC: Myrmidon BS: Dominix (can you say 'horrible to look at?')
This or we can expand to other T2 ships
HAC: Ishtar (another drone boat) AF: Ishkur (yes more drones) inty: Both extremly good at what they do, speed/tackle or DPS (taranis)
With all the droneboats, I'm sure people can spot a pattern here... Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
soldieroffortune 258
Gallente Trinity Council
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Posted - 2008.11.17 17:41:00 -
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megathron
that is all ( i just read the title )
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.17 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 megathron
that is all ( i just read the title )
Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Sigras
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Posted - 2008.11.18 11:44:00 -
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i like the way my domi looks |
Rexthor Hammerfists
Rage of Inferno
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Posted - 2008.11.18 12:00:00 -
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The ishtar is way up ther with the best hacs, For t1 the thorax but also vexor both make excellent pvp ships depending on your skills.
And theyre both good fun to fly, too.
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Boosters and PirateProfessions
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Tandin
Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2008.11.18 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
With all the droneboats, I'm sure people can spot a pattern here...
Well, he was asking about gallente boats and there aren't an excessive number of gallente missile cruisers.. oh wait.. the patch
Grab your ship, get in fleet.. Eve is a party and PvP'ers just party harder. |
Lord Morgo
LEGI0N
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Posted - 2008.11.19 00:13:00 -
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BS wise, Megathron gets my vote. Although a neut Dominix is a close second. |
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
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Posted - 2008.11.19 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0 Velator
Truly the best ship in its class. Needs a nerf imo
*** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
Master Technique
Club Bear
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Posted - 2008.11.19 02:33:00 -
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This is a pretty impossible question imo, because of the fact that every single situation in EVE pvp is unique.
In WOW for example, if you are a 70 mage, and you see a 70 rogue, you are always going to do the exact same thing to kill him.
In EVE, ships can be fit a million different ways, and you can put them in millions of different situations. Only in retrospect will you be able to determine what would have been the best ship for the fight. Before you go out on a roam, all you can do is fit the ship you have the most fun flying, with the best mods you can afford to lose.
For gallente cruisers for pvp, you really only have 3 choices, and all can be very good, even post-patch.
The thorax is typically the most sturdy if you fit it 4 sml guns/1med nos, AB/web/scram, MAR/1600rtp/eanmx2/dc. Medium guns are doable, and help dps, but i wouldn't reccomend it for solo.
The Vexor is usually the most dps with the drone bonus. Fit doesn't matter a lot, I usually do the lows same as a rax but with one less eanm, same mids, and whatever you want on top. This is a really good ship but won't survive as long as a rax.
The celestis can either do ewar, which its good at for gangs, or you can shield tank it (scram/LSEx3/invuln in the mids, DC/SPRx2 in the lows), which people never see coming. 3med/2sml drones and a rack of small blasters and it can even do a little dps=)
But yeah, to sum up, there is no perfect ship. Just fly what sounds fun. ________________ Master Technique Latest Video:Never Gunna Stop
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Tobias Xiaosen
Gallente The Perfect Storm Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2008.11.19 08:28:00 -
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My unending love for the Myrmidon, and my refusal to fly anything else should tell you which I think is best.
Originally by: F'nog Take that as you will.
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Huurtney Gurdsen
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Posted - 2008.11.19 09:36:00 -
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Thorax, its cheap fast and does damage. Yea, though I wart through the valet of thy shadowy hut I will feed no norman. |
Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.19 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Xiaosen My unending love for the Myrmidon, and my refusal to fly anything else should tell you which I think is best.
Myrmidon is preety awesome, and worst thing about facing one is that you never know how it's fit.
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Shazard
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Posted - 2008.11.19 11:26:00 -
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Kind a noob here asking...
Why when I read about gallente good ships, Vexor comes out not Thorax! Thorax has additional Turret, more Powergrid, more shield, more armour, faster, more CPU... Only drones is better for Vexor. So how exactly you get Vexor even close to compare to Thorax? Shouldn't Thorax allways outperform Vexor? I see Vexors a bit over average in prices, why is that... what am I missing here?
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.19 12:00:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 19/11/2008 12:01:06 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 19/11/2008 12:00:38
Originally by: Shazard Kind a noob here asking...
Why when I read about gallente good ships, Vexor comes out not Thorax! Thorax has additional Turret, more Powergrid, more shield, more armour, faster, more CPU... Only drones is better for Vexor. So how exactly you get Vexor even close to compare to Thorax? Shouldn't Thorax allways outperform Vexor? I see Vexors a bit over average in prices, why is that... what am I missing here?
Vexor always outpreforms the Thorax post QR (and it was quite a toss-up pre QR really).
Warp scramblers make it trivial to disable ships like Thoraxes and render them incapable of reaching medium blaster range, the only crutch the Thorax relies on being ECM drones... add to that the vastly superior performance of the Vexor vs smaller targets and all, it becomes a no-brainer to use a Vexor.
Ships relying on medium blasters and without a range bonus of any sort (like Thorax, Brutix) are incredibly gimped and more of a comedy option in PVP.
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King Rothgar
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Posted - 2008.11.19 12:56:00 -
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Probably the Vexor. Drone boat cruisers typically do quite well in pvp thanks to their ability to murder frigates/inties/AF's and chew up cruisers too. Carry a variety of T2 drones with a plate setup and you should do fine. Range is pretty flexable on these ships as are high slot options. I lean towards neuts/NOS but guns/missiles are an equally good option.
The thorax is not dead. It's true that the shorter range scrambler is more popular now and that seriously gimps it, but many people still prefer the longer range models on most ships. Thus the thorax is and pretty much always has been a solid pvp ship. It took a hit in QR but it's still a good option. It is more expensive to properly fit than a vexor. |
Caleb Marathon
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Posted - 2008.11.19 13:48:00 -
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Vexor for pvp cruiser ownage. Throw in some neuts and some cap gainage in the ownage
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Pichonsita
Caldari FILTHY MINKY CORP DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2008.11.19 13:59:00 -
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deimos, nothing more to say
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