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Dyaven The Tuskers	Posted - 2008.11.16 21:55:00 - [1] Solo piracy, how should I fit? MWD or AB? Gank, or (speed)tank? Or even with a tracking disruptor, perhaps? I was thinking something like either this: [Ishkur, Ishkur] Damage Control II Small Armor Repairer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II 1MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Scrambler II Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 50 Light Electron Blaster II, Void S Light Electron Blaster II, Void S Light Electron Blaster II, Void S Small Diminishing Power System Drain I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x5 or this: [Ishkur, Ishkur AB] Damage Control II Small Armor Repairer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II 1MN Afterburner II Warp Scrambler II Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 50 Light Ion Blaster II, Void S Light Ion Blaster II, Void S Light Electron Blaster II, Void S Small Diminishing Power System Drain I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x5
Furb Killer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.11.16 22:00:00 - [2] Normal ishkur blaster setup: [Ishkur, blaster] Small Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Armor Explosive Hardener II Warp Scrambler II 1MN Afterburner II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Diminishing Power System Drain I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x5 Hobgoblin II x4 You can also take some other drones with you. If you want mwd use railguns imo. Cap booster is handy if neuted, but you can put more usefull stuff in that mid slot. --------------------------------------------- Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
Dyaven The Tuskers	Posted - 2008.11.16 22:03:00 - [3] Edited by: Dyaven on 16/11/2008 22:03:11 Originally by: Furb Killer Normal ishkur blaster setup: [Ishkur, blaster] Small Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Armor Explosive Hardener II Warp Scrambler II 1MN Afterburner II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Diminishing Power System Drain I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x5 Hobgoblin II x4 You can also take some other drones with you. If you want mwd use railguns imo. Cap booster is handy if neuted, but you can put more usefull stuff in that mid slot. I was using the Cap Booster since it will keep me cap stable unneuted, and will prevent me from being completely screwed if I'm neuted. If I try to take on a BC 1v1, which I imagine would not be very difficult if it's poorly piloted (I've killed BCs in a Tristan pre-patch even), I'd need to be cap stable since it would take a while to poke him to death.
Furb Killer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.11.16 22:20:00 - [4] you got your nos, just pulse your repper. Destroy its drones if needed, then especially if it is a noob he probably wont even have close range weapons and wont do much damage to you. --------------------------------------------- Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
Doctor Mabuse	Posted - 2008.11.17 00:33:00 - [5] You will need the web to destroy his light drones. Just done a test, Thrasher, 200mm Autocannon II, Fleet Phased Plasma, 3 x Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I Rigs; didn't hit an orbiting Warrior II once. The only way to hit the thing was to user the scram to turn of its MWD, use a web or fit 2 Tracking Enhancer II. And you'll have 5 of them chewing you up at the time. 'Warrior II, the invincible little drone that could...' ------------------------------------ Who's trip-trapping on my bridge?
Dyaven The Tuskers	Posted - 2008.11.17 00:35:00 - [6] Originally by: Doctor Mabuse You will need the web to destroy his light drones. Just done a test, Thrasher, 200mm Autocannon II, Fleet Phased Plasma, 3 x Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I Rigs; didn't hit an orbiting Warrior II once. The only way to hit the thing was to user the scram to turn of its MWD, use a web or fit 2 Tracking Enhancer II. And you'll have 5 of them chewing you up at the time. 'Warrior II, the invincible little drone that could...' 5x Hobgoblin II > 1x Warrior II Ishkur doesn't need a web to kill drones, it's got it's own drones. :)
Doctor Mabuse	Posted - 2008.11.17 00:39:00 - [7] lol, true. Depends on the BC I guess, 50m3 is a lot of lights, could turn into mini drone fleet battle. Bad news for any other small ships though. Still, perfectly balanced I'm sure... ------------------------------------ Who's trip-trapping on my bridge?
Dyaven The Tuskers	Posted - 2008.11.17 00:43:00 - [8] Originally by: Doctor Mabuse lol, true. Depends on the BC I guess, 50m3 is a lot of lights, could turn into mini drone fleet battle. Bad news for any other small ships though. Still, perfectly balanced I'm sure... I'd imagine most BC's with 50m3 would carry medium drones anyways. Only thing to really worry about would be a Myrm.
Hambonie Caldari The Good Fellas	Posted - 2008.11.17 03:18:00 - [9] The set-up I use is a little different but only really on the guns Lows: SAR DMG Control Active EXP hardener Mids: Gisti B-Type 1MN AB Web 10k scram Highs: 2x 200mm AC's faction EMP Ammo 2x Small T2 nos I put a nanobot rig and aux pump on for the tank then drones of choice. Whole set-up runs cap stable as long as your nos is running
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.11.17 03:31:00 - [10] Originally by: Dyaven Originally by: Doctor Mabuse lol, true. Depends on the BC I guess, 50m3 is a lot of lights, could turn into mini drone fleet battle. Bad news for any other small ships though. Still, perfectly balanced I'm sure... I'd imagine most BC's with 50m3 would carry medium drones anyways. Only thing to really worry about would be a Myrm. Or ECM drones Carrying lights in a 50m3 ship is dooming yourself to death when you run into a ship within your own class. ECM drones are the correct choice, versatile enough to both disable frigates and work relatively well vs larger non-ECCMed ships. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint

Kaileen Starsong Amarr Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.11.17 03:35:00 - [11] Originally by: Cpt Branko Or ECM drones Carrying lights in a 50m3 ship is dooming yourself to death when you run into a ship within your own class. ECM drones are the correct choice, versatile enough to both disable frigates and work relatively well vs larger non-ECCMed ships. I'd say a flight of light ECMs and a flight of T2 warriors is > than flight of med ECMs tbh. Especially with the amount of frigs in space atm.
Gram Hellfire Smoking Hillbillys	Posted - 2008.11.17 05:53:00 - [12] Originally by: Cpt Branko Or ECM drones Carrying lights in a 50m3 ship is dooming yourself to death when you run into a ship within your own class. ECM drones are the correct choice, versatile enough to both disable frigates and work relatively well vs larger non-ECCMed ships. I thought it only had 25 meters of bandwith
Mr Friendly The Lost and The Damned	Posted - 2008.11.17 06:23:00 - [13] Originally by: Gram Hellfire Originally by: Cpt Branko Or ECM drones Carrying lights in a 50m3 ship is dooming yourself to death when you run into a ship within your own class. ECM drones are the correct choice, versatile enough to both disable frigates and work relatively well vs larger non-ECCMed ships. I thought it only had 25 meters of bandwith I'm pretty sure he meant the BC you're trying to blow up with the Ishkur (which, as you say, only has 25 bandwidth).
Doctor Mabuse	Posted - 2008.11.17 09:43:00 - [14] Unfortunately this means that whilst Warriors were near impossible to hit before QR, a small ship could kite their damage or even speed away and disengage. Now with this new 'fit an AB instead' concept, a small ship is completely at the mercy of a flight of Warrior II's unless it fits a web or MWD to escape (didn't we just come from there?) Any BC/BS pilot should be carrying these as a matter of course now.
Cpt Cosmic	Posted - 2008.11.17 10:06:00 - [15] ECM drones pop pretty fast, works only with a lucky cycle. also I would not fight cruisers/bcs or atleast not alone and avoid them as much as possible. they can still lock pretty fast, are still quite agile, tracking still pretty good and so on thus a good pilot could pop you before you are in range and under guns tracking. you have much higher chance to survive against a BS ;P
Burn Mac Minmatar The Tuskers	Posted - 2008.11.17 10:38:00 - [16] Medium ECM drones will ruin your day as will medium neuts just hope they dont fit em. Besides i thought i was the official Tusker forum warrior?
Alex Harumichi Gallente Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.11.17 11:23:00 - [17] Originally by: Furb Killer Normal ishkur blaster setup: [Ishkur, blaster] Small Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Armor Explosive Hardener II Warp Scrambler II 1MN Afterburner II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Diminishing Power System Drain I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x5 Hobgoblin II x4 Yeah, this is pretty close to what I'd use too. If you have good armor comp skills an energized explosive plate might be an option instead of the active hardener, and of course you can pimp it up a bit with rigs. But yeah, looks solid to me.
Neddy Fox Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.11.17 11:24:00 - [18] Iskur has 50 m3 dronebay, if skilled to 5. Normal would be lvl4, so 45 m3, enough to replace lost drones.. After trying I will settle with warriors, need more dps, not a stronger 'tank' by using ecm drones, dont need those.
Eluhaf	Posted - 2008.11.17 20:22:00 - [19] Edited by: Eluhaf on 17/11/2008 20:23:32 Originally by: Alex Harumichi Edited by: Alex Harumichi on 17/11/2008 11:33:03 Originally by: Furb Killer Normal ishkur blaster setup: [Ishkur, blaster] 1MN Afterburner II Yeah, this is pretty close to what I'd use too. If you have good armor comp skills an energized explosive plate might be an option instead of the active hardener, and of course you can pimp it up a bit with rigs. But yeah, looks solid to me. ...though for general use I would use one set of Hobgoblins and another one of Warriors, just so I can reach out and touch interceptors. For solo piracy, Hobgoblins are solid. AB fit AFs are dead meat to 5 medium drones. You need the MWD.
Furb Killer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.11.17 20:25:00 - [20] No

Solomon XI Hoist The Colors. Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.11.17 21:52:00 - [21] Alright, I'll give you an Ishkur fitting. *** Damage Control II Small Armor Repairer II Micro Electrochemical Cap Boosters (Cap Booster 100's) 1MN MicroWarpDrive II Warp Disruptor II x3 150MM Railgun II w/ Antimatter Drones: x5 Warrior II's ----- http://dirtyhands.griefwatch.net/?p=campaigns&campaign=4841 I've been fighting a war with it. Drake's cant even break it once you kill off their drones.
Zephyr Rengate Caldari Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2008.11.17 22:12:00 - [22] Soloman 1 low slot is empty.
eyesoftheworld Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.11.17 22:17:00 - [23] Highs: 3x Neutron II w/ CN AM S Meds: 1x AB II 1x Fleeting Web 1x WS II Lows: 1x SAR II 1x DCU II 1x EANM II Rigs: 2x Anti-Explosive Rigs Drones: 5x Hobgoblin II
eXtas Atomic Battle Penguins	Posted - 2008.11.17 22:29:00 - [24] most anoying setup I run into is: 3x small ac, nos warp scram, webb, pithi sb 400mm plate, dcu, eanm em res rigs for shield that was stupidly hard to kill :P --------


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