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Beaty Swollocks Perkone	Posted - 2009.02.16 19:17:00 - [31] Originally by: Rip Striker Edited by: Rip Striker on 18/11/2008 06:47:35 If you want a level 4 mission whoring Nighthawk fitted with 4 BCS and a perma/cheap faction tank: HI: 6x Heavy missile launcher II (fury ammo), 1x Drone link ME: 2x Pithi B small shield booster, 2x CN shield hardeners, 1x Large cap battery II LO: 4x CN Ballistic control systems, 1x Power diagnostic II RIGS: 2x Warhead Rigor DRONES: 5x light drones II This setup delivers alot of damage (600-700 kinetic incl. drones) to ALL ship types. Also, the tank is perma and rather cheap (less than 50M). The resists are more than enough since you have such a great gank! Everything just melts...in particular the battleships. Remember, these days fury ammo deals more damage than before, have better range, and no cap penalty. Sure, your sig radius is increased, but that is of no importance since you will gank and perma-tank everything anyways! Fly safe! Thought i would reply here then create a new thread! How much does this set up tank ? ANY lvl 4 ? Is it better to go active over passive for pve ?
Gul Rashen Perkone	Posted - 2009.02.16 19:56:00 - [32] There is no need for the Cap Battery. Use a CFC and you get a Capstable Tank. In the free Medslot put a Boost Amp or an AB. With Boost Amp instead of the Cap Battery it tanks from ~500(Blood Raider) up to ~1170(Gurista).
Dracthera	Posted - 2009.02.16 21:10:00 - [33] Originally by: Beaty Swollocks How much does this set up tank ? ANY lvl 4 ? Is it better to go active over passive for pve ? NH can tank any L4 with relative ease. You still want to pull the correct triggers in the more involved missions, but the NH setup you quoted should be more than sufficient. As for the active vs. passive in PvE, that depends entirely on your skills and on the mods you use. The reason for going active is that you can free up your lows for damage mods. I fit 4xBCUs on my setups to get max damage (yes, the additional 7% from the 4th BCU IS worth it if you can spare the slot). Active tanks also benefit from a small signature radius, which is important for smaller ships like the NH/Drake since their natural sig radius results in 30% less damage from torps and cruise missiles. Going passive is a bit less skill-intensive, but you also do less damage. Going passive is also a must if you tackle missions with neuts as they will cap your active tank dry fast.
Cmdr Greg	Posted - 2009.02.16 21:53:00 - [34] Expensive but not silly Low 4x CN BSU Damage control T2 Med Dom AB Pithi A-type small shield booster CN shield boost amp 2x CN IV High 6x CN HML or CN HAM 1x whatever (cloak, tractor, drone range ) Fast, tanks plenty, perma tanks with good skills and you still have 2 rig slots for whatever you want , I would prob go for 2x Auxilary Trusters ii and put HAM's on it EFT with speed and damage implants and all to 5 SDE/RDE 443 DPS 662 (HAM tech1 ammo) speed 498
Silver Fusion Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2009.02.16 22:36:00 - [35] Edited by: Silver Fusion on 16/02/2009 22:39:09 [Nighthawk, L4 Missions] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Ballistic Deflection Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile [empty high slot] Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Hobgoblin II x5 -- No need for faction stuff... Seriously. Change hardeners. Profit. Enough tank for all missions and every stage engagement. Around 500+ DPS. Depends on your skills.
Jorge Deteis	Posted - 2009.02.17 02:35:00 - [36] Edited by: Jorge Deteis on 17/02/2009 02:37:06 I used the standard passive fit NH (as listed by last poster) for a while and it works really well. I've since since switched to an active tank since it can fit a 4th BCU and it can comfortably fit a 10mn AB for missions like worlds collide where you need to travel a distance. Current setup 6x HML II, use Furies on BC/BS. 1x Drone Link Augmenter 2x Mission specific T2 Hardeners. 2x Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster (just 40m each before someone cries 'Oh my god!') 1x 10mn Afterburner OR T2 Passive Amp. It occured to me today that a Grav backup array might be useful in missions where you get jammed. I have no idea if that would be effective though as Ive never used one. 4x Caldari Navy BCS. Not a whole lot of difference if you replace the 3rd and 4th with Tech 2. Obviously you can just go for 4 T2's if you feel its too much for a mission ship. 1x Cap Flux II 1x Core Defense Operational Solidifier 1x Capacitor Control Circuit 5 x Hobgob II (good all round, with thermic being the secondary weakness of most rats you face) Currently 657dps with a 5% damage and 3% rof hardwiring. 20 or so more when rapid launch V is done. Over 700 if I do CS V... which I'm tempted to do. To the OP - While I'm sure an Omnitank is possible much of the time, there are some big hitters where it wont be. I recommend taking the time to use mission specifics anyway - it means that for most missions you won't need to give any attention to aggro management.
skintsaint Charlie Chaplins Raggamuffin Crew	Posted - 2009.02.17 06:49:00 - [37] 6 xT2 heavy launchers Tractor Beam 2 LSE II 2 x Invul 2 1 x Rat specific hardener 3 x BCU SPR II's Shield purger rigs Rat specific light drones Job done...move on
Cade Morrigan Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.17 17:34:00 - [38] Originally by: Jorge Deteis ...It occured to me today that a Grav backup array might be useful in missions where you get jammed. I have no idea if that would be effective though as Ive never used one... Nah just yawn tank until they quit jamming then kill the jammer. Slot can be much better used than for countering jamming npcs.
Dieyno Mieyght	Posted - 2009.02.17 17:47:00 - [39] 6 CN heavy launchers 1 drone link (or tractor) 3 T2 LSE (1 T2 grav unit for gurista missions) 1 T2 photon 1 T2 invul 3 CN BCU 2 T2 PDS 2 field extender rigs (or make 1 an em) 23k shield hp when 3 lse and 2 extender rigs
Beaty Swollocks Perkone	Posted - 2009.03.16 18:07:00 - [40] Sorry to necro this thread again (wasn't locked so thought i would post here instead of makeing a new one) But what implants would go well with the active set ups and//or the passive ones ?
GavTheMighty	Posted - 2009.03.16 19:43:00 - [41] Edited by: GavTheMighty on 16/03/2009 19:44:43 Some of these setups seem a little over the top and more a case of lets throw some money at our shiny toy but hey can't say I have never done the same! Anyway I have been doing level 4's and havent come accross any problems with this: High Drone Aug. 6 x heavy launcher II's Mostly Scorge missiles but I change depending on rat and mission not as much effort as you may think just have it all stocked at the agent base and change based on mission. MId Medium Shield Booster II Rat specific hardner II Rat specific hardner II LSE II LSE II Low BC II BC II BC II BC II PD II Rig I just go for more damage rigs havent had a problem tanking any level 4's so damage just = speed for me. Anyway happy gaming

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