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Poision Kevin
Amarr Big Shadows
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Posted - 2008.11.18 18:59:00 -
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okey as many knows all missiles have been nerfed to half range but still the same damage. This was my old setup:
Highs: 5x HAM II's and 1x salvager
Mids: 1x 10mn MWD II, 1x Fleeting webifier, 1x warp scrambler II, 1x Medium capacitor booster II.
Lows: 2x MAR II's, 2x EANM II's and 1x damage controll II
Rigs: 1x Tri-mark armor pump I, 1x Auxiliary nano pump I
Drones: 3x hobgoblin II's
The problem with this fitting is that now my missiles goes like 20-26 km i think havent really tested and before they went 50km i think. my tougth is to switch my HAM II's to Heavy Missile II's but is this range enough? (20-30km) or should i change to Heavy missiles wich goes much longer (twice as long i think) and have better Damage but they shoots slower.
so i guess this is a question about what is best for my sacrilege, HAM II's or HM II's pls reply and come up with idea's |

Yoko Lee
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.18 19:08:00 -
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I use this fit since long time and work nice (low secure system) :
5x HAM II, 1x small neutra 1x 10mn mwd II, 1x med cap inj, 1x web, 1x disruptor II 2x mar II, 1x AN eanm, 1x thermic hardener II, 1x bcs II
2x rigs nano pump
3x warrior II |

Thea Arsoniztik
Red Tides Viewer Discretion Advised
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Posted - 2008.11.18 21:02:00 -
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Since when could a HAM ever shoot 50 km? 
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.18 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Thea Arsoniztik Since when could a HAM ever shoot 50 km? 
Look. Base range ~37Km. x2.25 with skills = about 80Km.
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Karch
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.11.19 14:50:00 -
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Your quoteing the item database? ROFL. The Item database is not updated with QR yet, and the range JAV HAMs from my understanding has been reduced (in Iraq so haven't been able to log on sense QR release.
As for standard HAMs on a SAC, the range is about 16-18KM if I remember correctly. Anyways with the Sacrilege, your setting the ship up to get in close and be a heavy tackler that can tank crazy amounts of DPS, so why are you wanting to use range ammo, sure keep some on hand just in case, but -really- your not going to be using it with the SAC that often. And also, HMLs on a sac dont work really well sense the ships bonus are specific to HAMs. --------------------------------------
I dont care to be the best, but I intend to be great at all things! |

Malcanis
RuffRyders Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.19 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Karch Your quoteing the item database? ROFL. The Item database is not updated with QR yet, and the range JAV HAMs from my understanding has been reduced (in Iraq so haven't been able to log on sense QR release.
I was showing what they had been reduced from, not what they had been reduced to.
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.11.19 15:40:00 -
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generalizing missiles is wrong...
Only thing changed with my HAM sacrilege is speed is down a few 100 m/s and my webifier strength has gone down. I see no change on faction HAM missile range
Advice: go with HAMs... Why would you want anything else with a ship like that?
Pinky |

Solenia
Gallente Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2008.11.19 16:06:00 -
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Poision Kevin drop that Tri-mark armor pump for anther nano and u'll have a very strong tank. I like Yoko Lee setup got nice dps and good tank, not as good as yours but she will do more damage then u :P
Just one question to Yoko Less, how does that small neut help?
HAM > HM when it come to this fine ship imo |

Yoko Lee
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.19 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Solenia Poision Kevin drop that Tri-mark armor pump for anther nano and u'll have a very strong tank. I like Yoko Lee setup got nice dps and good tank, not as good as yours but she will do more damage then u :P
Just one question to Yoko Less, how does that small neut help?
HAM > HM when it come to this fine ship imo
small neutra just for fregate but you can put med smartbomb (offline) for heat. Never lose my sacri, i love sacri for solo : good dps (not the best but u can chose your damage type) and great tank.
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EmperorPirk
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:40:00 -
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would it be worth to drop an 800mm plate and cap charger II for an injector and resist mod? can allmost perma run two MAR II's with my current setup.
5x HAM II . tractor -- MWD . web . scram . cap charger II -- 2x MAR II . 800mm RT plate . energized TS themal hardener . BCU II. -- 2x CCC
never really used injectors before but do they work better than cap rechargers? and would dropping the plate be worth it? (lower HP = die faster?)
this setup have worked for me so far but it could probably be even better.
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Yoko Lee
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:43:00 -
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Edited by: Yoko Lee on 19/11/2008 17:44:20
Originally by: EmperorPirk would it be worth to drop an 800mm plate and cap charger II for an injector and resist mod? can allmost perma run two MAR II's with my current setup.
5x HAM II . tractor -- MWD . web . scram . cap charger II -- 2x MAR II . 800mm RT plate . energized TS themal hardener . BCU II. -- 2x CCC
never really used injectors before but do they work better than cap rechargers? and would dropping the plate be worth it? (lower HP = die faster?)
this setup have worked for me so far but it could probably be even better.
Interet to fit a 800mm plate? dual repair + 2x rigs nano pump + some resistance its enough.
and with dual repair u need a med cap inj, (if ennemy neutra you, without charge 800 you will die 
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Solenia
Gallente Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:58:00 -
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What Yoko said  |

Poision Kevin
Amarr Big Shadows
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Posted - 2008.11.20 07:10:00 -
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thanks for the help guys i'll test this setup and then mabey mix it if i CAN get anything better |

Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Home 0f Bored Occultists
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Posted - 2008.11.20 07:13:00 -
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Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 20/11/2008 07:13:09 [Sacrilege, QR solo] Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Medium Armor Repairer II Ballistic Control System II
Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II 10MN Afterburner II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Hellfire Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Hellfire Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Hellfire Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Hellfire Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Hellfire Rage Assault Missile Medium 'Vehemence' I Shockwave Charge
Ancillary Current Router I Anti-Thermic Pump I
Hornet EC-300 x3
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