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Gojyu
Ever Flow
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.20 01:37:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Pwett
Kill the fatty, dry the meat, and you should have a good protein source for months.
One of the problems with jerky is that you have to use fairly lean meat. When exposed to heat/dessication fat will tend to turn rancid, and even on an obese person's muscles you're liable to get too much marbling to make anything palatable out of |
Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
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Posted - 2008.11.20 01:51:00 -
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You don't have that many ugly/fat actresses and actors. Sure they have some exceptions, but as a rule its a hard to find plain/normal looking actors.
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Corwain
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.11.20 02:23:00 -
[33]
Edited by: Corwain on 20/11/2008 02:25:16
Edited by: Corwain on 20/11/2008 02:23:40
It's funny how this thread started out as a prima donna "fat people are ugly and that must mean they're worse at survival" but then half way through some people that actually know two things about metabolism step forward.
My best friend is about 3 inches taller than me and rail thin. Super low body fat. He's not buff in any sense of the word, yet I can still see his muscles outlined clearly through his skin, He's an amazing runner, the fastest person I know personally. He went out for all the running teams year round in high school.
I am stocky with a small belly but pretty decently fit. As far as running goes I'm nowhere near as fast as my friend but I can run for a long long time (or can when I don't smoke all the time, your lung capacity, height, and leg length greatly determine your running ability, much more so than weight, morbid obesity notwithstanding).
My friend eats whatever he can get his hands on. He'll 4-6 meals a day usually high calorie low nutrient food. I've seen him eat a quart of ice cream with a spoon in one sitting. He just doesn't gain weight from his diet. He does get faint if he goes without a meal for more than 4 hours however.
If I ate like my friend I would be morbidly obese within a month. Last time I dieted to lose weight I had to bring my calorie intake a day down to around 1000 calories a day to actually lose weight. The "average normal" adult male break-even diet is 2500 calories. I usually eat one meal a day (lunch), sometimes skipping days. Hell I didn't eat anything all day today until I got home. I left the house at 7:15am to head to work. Didn't have breakfast or lunch. Went to class after work, that ended at 9pm. When I got home I had a 6-inch sub with a glass of orange juice. I'm about to go to bed. I don't feel hungry at all.
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Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.11.20 02:40:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Corwain
Edited by: Corwain on 20/11/2008 02:25:16
Edited by: Corwain on 20/11/2008 02:23:40
It's funny how this thread started out as a prima donna "fat people are ugly and that must mean they're worse at survival"
You're reading too far into it. The thread was meant as a joke. Relax.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.11.20 03:02:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Corwain
It's funny how this thread started out as a prima donna "fat people are ugly and that must mean they're worse at survival" but then half way through some people that actually know two things about metabolism step forward.
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Khraunus
Amarr
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.11.20 03:15:00 -
[36]
Don't go to sleep unless fatty isn't around. Just... Don't.
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Muad' Dib
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.11.20 03:17:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 20/11/2008 03:27:08
Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 20/11/2008 03:19:14
Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist
After watching such films and shows like Alive, Lost, Cast Away, and other things about being stranded with other people or alone, I've noticed one thing: Everyone is thin. And then it got me thinking - I know, scary. What would happen if you were stranded with a fairly fat/overweight individual? Would you have to keep a close eye on them, lest their inhuman hunger for sustenance takes over and they embark on a violent rage and kill people to eat them or just eat all the scarce food?
The last thing I want to think about, while stranded in any environment, is to wonder if this person believes I'll go well with tartar sauce.
In any case, what would happen if a fat camp became stranded? 100% entertainment? Or 100% horror with a side of comedy?
Thoughts?!
They always are the the off character, named ones, not the ones dying horribly/voted out to show the gravity of the situation.
PS: Read Lord of the Flies, stop watching Lost.
Originally by: Corwain
Edited by: Corwain on 20/11/2008 02:25:16
Edited by: Corwain on 20/11/2008 02:23:40
It's funny how this thread started out as a prima donna "fat people are ugly and that must mean they're worse at survival" but then half way through some people that actually know two things about metabolism step forward.
My best friend is about 3 inches taller than me and rail thin. Super low body fat. He's not buff in any sense of the word, yet I can still see his muscles outlined clearly through his skin, He's an amazing runner, the fastest person I know personally. He went out for all the running teams year round in high school.
I am stocky with a small belly but pretty decently fit. As far as running goes I'm nowhere near as fast as my friend but I can run for a long long time (or can when I don't smoke all the time, your lung capacity, height, and leg length greatly determine your running ability, much more so than weight, morbid obesity notwithstanding).
My friend eats whatever he can get his hands on. He'll 4-6 meals a day usually high calorie low nutrient food. I've seen him eat a quart of ice cream with a spoon in one sitting. He just doesn't gain weight from his diet. He does get faint if he goes without a meal for more than 4 hours however.
If I ate like my friend I would be morbidly obese within a month. Last time I dieted to lose weight I had to bring my calorie intake a day down to around 1000 calories a day to actually lose weight. The "average normal" adult male break-even diet is 2500 calories. I usually eat one meal a day (lunch), sometimes skipping days. Hell I didn't eat anything all day today until I got home. I left the house at 7:15am to head to work. Didn't have breakfast or lunch. Went to class after work, that ended at 9pm. When I got home I had a 6-inch sub with a glass of orange juice. I'm about to go to bed. I don't feel hungry at all.
Ppl like this are in a real danger for their metabolism to screw up, to start actually gaining weight, and that coupled with their eating habits will land them very quickly in oversized pants.
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.11.20 03:25:00 -
[38]
If stuck on a desert island with no immediate chance of resuce.... kill the fat guy, eat his flesh, save his fat for various uses and use his bones as tools.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.20 03:25:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Akita T on 20/11/2008 03:26:21
Originally by: Jacob Mei
If stuck on a desert island with no immediate chance of resuce.... kill the fat guy, eat his flesh, save his fat for various uses and use his bones as tools.
Unless, of course, he simply kills you first by sitting on you after he notices you're trying to kill him.
Originally by: N'tek alar
Originally by: Akita T
Yeah, imagine how much "action" would be in a realistic movie where shedloads of fat people would be stranded somewhere... "oh, we have to find something to eat... like, preferably next tuesday, but next sunday would be ok too, I guess".
Not much drama, is it ? 
And then they figure out they can just jump into the sea, Swim to a current and float to civilised lands.
Heh, don't get me started with that either... I need absolutely no effort whatsoever to stay afloat in a pool or a lake, and I actually *fell asleep* more than once while swimming in the sea (outside the wave breaking area). The only nasty things about it were the sunburn I got on my belly and the time it took me to get back to "my place" on the sand (where my things were) from where the currents dragged me.
Barring sharks or other nasty things like that, I could probably just float there for days.
Oh, and cold water affects me very little too... other than the initial "brrr, cold" moments (which I hate), I used to go for hour-long swims in 10 degree (celsius, that would be, what, 50 F) water and not even be bothered by it at all as long as I kept moving at all (felt almost luke-warm, actually).
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Muad' Dib
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.11.20 03:29:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 20/11/2008 03:26:21
Originally by: Jacob Mei
If stuck on a desert island with no immediate chance of resuce.... kill the fat guy, eat his flesh, save his fat for various uses and use his bones as tools.
Unless, of course, he simply kills you first by sitting on you after he notices you're trying to kill him.
Originally by: N'tek alar
Originally by: Akita T
Yeah, imagine how much "action" would be in a realistic movie where shedloads of fat people would be stranded somewhere... "oh, we have to find something to eat... like, preferably next tuesday, but next sunday would be ok too, I guess".
Not much drama, is it ?
And then they figure out they can just jump into the sea, Swim to a current and float to civilised lands.
Heh, don't get me started with that either... I need absolutely no effort whatsoever to stay afloat in a pool or a lake, and I actually *fell asleep* more than once while swimming in the sea (outside the wave breaking area). The only nasty things about it were the sunburn I got on my belly and the time it took me to get back to "my place" on the sand (where my things were) from where the currents dragged me.
Barring sharks or other nasty things like that, I could probably just float there for days.
Oh, and cold water affects me very little too... other than the initial "brrr, cold" moments (which I hate), I used to go for hour-long swims in 10 degree (celsius, that would be, what, 50 F) water and not even be bothered by it at all as long as I kept moving at all (felt almost luke-warm, actually).
Exactly how much lypo type protection do you have on you ?
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Mathias Mineros
Terran Resurrection
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Posted - 2008.11.20 03:46:00 -
[41]
As a big person, I am here to say if I was marooned with a skinny dude I would probably kill them, not because I want to eat them, I already know how hunt and fish and survive on my own. I would kill them because most skinny little runts I know are annoying as hell. They're like little dogs that constantly run around you yipping all the time. I would probably end up breaking them in 2 after about a week of the constant whining. Then I would train my monkey butlers to bring me fruit. Of coarse I would keep their skull for a drinking cup. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.20 03:53:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Akita T on 20/11/2008 03:55:26
Originally by: Muad' Dib
Exactly how much lypo type protection do you have on you ?
More than plenty
Lowest I've ever been was around 100kg, highest I've ever been was almost 160kg, now hovering around 140kg.
P.S. 1.76m at 160kg, 1.85m at 105 kg, now around 1.79m 
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F'nog
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.20 03:54:00 -
[43]
Yeah, it's definitely the skinny guys you have to worry about. Back in college, there was a guy who had to spend the whole meal period, at least at dinner, 1.5 hours, eating in the dining hall. This was in order to keep up is uber-ripped appearance and not die of malnutrition (he spent at least some time at the other meals; he didn't skip them for class).
So, yeah, bigger people will tend to be more gluttonous, but they can go without nourishment longer than the skinnier ones. If you have a diabetic amongst them, all bets are off.
Take that as you will. |
mamolian
Madhatters Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.20 06:56:00 -
[44]
Of course its perfectly safe.. You have a big ass food supply if things go to ****.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.11.20 09:02:00 -
[45]
First of all what the hell is wrong with this board?
Second I think fatty might actually like being away from temptations and will have a lot to draw from that the other lack. Hollywood always make fat people jolly and stupid, they're not all like that.
Personality would matter more, if I'm stranded with some fascist thinking me too fat, short, stupid, darkskinned or just too old to be of any use to him then I'd be afraid and I'd probably have to kill him. |
Irish Whiskey
Caldari
Warped Mining
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Posted - 2008.11.20 09:19:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Wendat Huron
First of all what the hell is wrong with this board?
It used to be cool. Now its just a bunch of wowtards that POSE. Yes I can smell them a mile away.
In any survival situation, people are only measured by one thing: SKILLS.
I'll share my water with someone who has medical knowledge before someone who can sew.
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Dwain Chambers
Big S Triangle
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Posted - 2008.11.20 11:01:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Dwain Chambers on 20/11/2008 11:06:06
The fat people are the ones who are going to survive:
People have evolved to survive in times of food scarcity (the current period of food surplus in the west is, historically, a tiny blip in a long history of malnourishment and semi starvation). One of the ways of surviving food scarcity is to store fat; fat people are better at this than thin people (slower metabolism etc) also digesting your own body fat reserves is much, much more efficient than eating someone else's. To ensure the highest survival rate in a stranded, survival situation you kill and eat the thinnest people (the ones who would be likely to starve to death first). Though if you are feeling less ruthless and kill no one it is most likely that the fat people will be the ones to survive (or the very fit and athletic ones if there are animals to hunt), either way the unfit, thin people are the least suited to survival.
EDIT: having said all that, Wendat Huron is probably correct. Your best chance of survival may well end up based on social interactions: try and take charge or get as high up the pecking order as you can.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.11.20 11:32:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 20/11/2008 04:17:12
Originally by: Muad' Dib
Exactly how much lypo type protection do you have on you ?
More than plenty
Lowest I've ever been was around 100kg, highest I've ever been was almost 160kg, now hovering around 140kg.
P.S. 1.76m at 160kg, 1.85m at 105 kg, now around 1.79m
How did you loose 6cm? Are you saying the weight compresses you 
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ouroboros trading
Gallente
Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2008.11.20 11:52:00 -
[49]
****ing hell |
ouroboros trading
Gallente
Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2008.11.20 11:53:00 -
[50]
this thread got worse after i posted how the hell did you manage that |
Corwain
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.11.20 13:34:00 -
[51]
Originally by: ouroboros trading
this thread got worse after i posted how the hell did you manage that
From your posting I have a feeling you're one of the skinny kids that would die first.
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Gojyu
Ever Flow
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.20 13:35:00 -
[52]
Originally by: ouroboros trading
this thread got worse after i posted how the hell did you manage that
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.20 13:49:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Qui Shon
How did you lose 6cm? Are you saying the weight compresses you
Of course it does. The human spine is not a pillar, it's a spring.
Try measuring yourself while lying down on the floor, you'll notice you're anywhere from 5 to 15 cm "taller" (well, longer, since you're horizontal, heh), or even more than that if you're seriously overweight.
The heavier you get, the more pronounced your spine's S-shape becomes to better accomodate the extra weight without too much problems, thus lowering your standing height.
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.11.20 13:56:00 -
[54]
I want me baby-back baby-back baby-back baby-back riiiibs.
CHILLI... baby-back RIBS.
Take that as you will. |
ouroboros trading
Gallente
Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2008.11.20 15:12:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Qui Shon
How did you lose 6cm? Are you saying the weight compresses you
Of course it does. The human spine is not a pillar, it's a spring.
Try measuring yourself while lying down on the floor, you'll notice you're anywhere from 5 to 15 cm "taller" (well, longer, since you're horizontal, heh), or even more than that if you're seriously overweight.
The heavier you get, the more pronounced your spine's S-shape becomes to better accomodate the extra weight without too much problems, thus lowering your standing height.
i'm 4 stone heavyier than i was 5 years ago, but not a mm shorter.
i won't say anymore cos i'm just a troll not a ****er. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.20 18:21:00 -
[56]
If you lean back and support your back on a wall or somesuch when you measure yourself, you're obviously going to be taller than you actually are most of the time.
Proper height measurements are made while you keep your usual posture while not leaning on anything at all and somebody else measures you.
Personally, for me, that's almost 4cm difference between "normal posture" (~1.79) and "stretching while leaning on a wall" (~1.83)... if you really want to "cheat" even further, you can try to measure yourself while lying on a horizontal surface (~1.90).
So, yeah, it DOES matter. A LOT. Especially when significantly overweight. |
Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.11.20 18:49:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Gojyu
One of the problems with jerky is that you have to use fairly lean meat. When exposed to heat/dessication fat will tend to turn rancid, and even on an obese person's muscles you're liable to get too much marbling to make anything palatable out of
Yeah, thought about that after I posted.
A good brine would do though - pickled fatty.
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Founder
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Sikander 2
Caldari
Quietly Confident Inc
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Posted - 2008.11.20 18:53:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 19/11/2008 18:57:53
Lost had a chubby guy who actually did quite well
The word is HAD
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.11.20 19:02:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Sikander 2
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 19/11/2008 18:57:53
Lost had a chubby guy who actually did quite well
The word is HAD
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ouroboros trading
Gallente
Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2008.11.20 19:08:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Akita T
If you lean back and support your back on a wall or somesuch when you measure yourself, you're obviously going to be taller than you actually are most of the time.
Proper height measurements are made while you keep your usual posture while not leaning on anything at all and somebody else measures you.
Personally, for me, that's almost 4cm difference between "normal posture" (~1.79) and "stretching while leaning on a wall" (~1.83)... if you really want to "cheat" even further, you can try to measure yourself while lying on a horizontal surface (~1.90).
So, yeah, it DOES matter. A LOT. Especially when significantly overweight.
i don't want to cheat...i am just 105kg and 5'10, and i was 5'10 when i was 75kg. whenever i get measured for whatever reason it's always 5'10. perhaps it's because i'm 5'10.
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