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Gojyu
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Posted - 2008.11.20 06:01:00 -
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It's time for the almighty power of the internet lawyer
According to UK law, a business may discriminate against people not sharing a belief when it can establish that such a belief is relevant to the required duties of the position.
Given this law, a business could argue that in a position were treating mixed races equally is an integral part of the position means that the belief of racial equality is relevant to the required duties of said position.
Given this, a person can thus be seen to be unable to perform the duties of the position due to belief, and thus it is legal to discriminate against them. This argument is further evidenced by the UK's courts support of this argument |
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Posted - 2008.11.20 11:21:00 -
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Proof of BNP membership is not proof of racism.
No, however, getting up at a public forum (through the elections that the person in question ran in) and stating that you agree with the racist ideals of the bnp, you believe that the bnp ideas should be implemented as law and you believe that whites are a superior race is
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Posted - 2008.11.20 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Gojyu
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Proof of BNP membership is not proof of racism.
No, however, getting up at a public forum (through the elections that the person in question ran in) and stating that you agree with the racist ideals of the bnp, you believe that the bnp ideas should be implemented as law and you believe that whites are a superior race is
I dont think that they believe in whites being supreme, they just want Britain to be for the white indiginous british people. Ironic considering everyone in Britain is retty much an immigrant
Their technical belief is fairly subtle. They state they do not believe any ethnic group being superior to another. However, they do believe that there are certain biological factors that can cause certain ethnic groups to be more prone to crime, more violent and at a lower cognitive level than whites. At a basic level, they're hiding a mask of superiority with the argument "Muslims are genetically disposed to violence and evil, blacks are less evolved and less able to think as a human, but we don't think we're superior... that would be bad" |
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Posted - 2008.11.20 12:34:00 -
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It proves only that they believe racist practice should be allowed
Then they should have no problem with the court's decision should they?  |
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Posted - 2008.11.20 12:54:00 -
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Edited by: Gojyu on 20/11/2008 12:54:49
Originally by: kor anon
Edited by: kor anon on 20/11/2008 12:44:20
I think there whould be a public forum (not the internet type), where in it you can express any view as you wish free from charge. Any views expressed are left at the door of the forum, so that they have no effect on your day to day life. This way we could remove freedom of speech outside of these forums.
Just an idea, i donmt know how effective it would be
I believe people should be willing to accept the fact that their actions have consequences, and should be willing to accept those consequences.
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Gojyu
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Posted - 2008.11.20 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Gojyu
Originally by: kor anon
Edited by: kor anon on 20/11/2008 12:44:20
I think there whould be a public forum (not the internet type), where in it you can express any view as you wish free from charge. Any views expressed are left at the door of the forum, so that they have no effect on your day to day life. This way we could remove freedom of speech outside of these forums.
Just an idea, i donmt know how effective it would be
I believe people should be willing to accept the consequences of their actions
What actions? im talking about them speaking their bit freely and thats it
That's an action. I go out yelling about how Lebanese people are s****in some neighborhoods in Sydney and I'll likely die. I tell the media that I believe that non-whites do not deserve the same rights as white people, and my job is to be the primary carer for disabled non-whites, even for a short time during the day, and I'll lose that job.
Words, especially in today's society, have real power. That political correctness has gone so far as allowing people to preach hate and discrimination as says "oh well, we wouldn't want to hurt their sensibilities by rallying against them" is a weakness of today's society, not a strength
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Gojyu
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Posted - 2008.11.20 22:31:00 -
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If a police officer, doctor, or teacher isn't standing for public election as a BNP representative surely it would be illegal to fire him/her or refuse to employ them? Their BNP, or other groups membership is immaterial.
Nope. Police are specifically prohibited from joining the bnp (it'd be like an american cop being a member of the ***). As for any other job, uk courts have ruled that membership of a racist organisation does not constitute a valid philosophical or religious belief, and is not a racial prejudice. The United Kingdom also does not consider discrimination against a political belief unlawful
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