Originally by: Kazzac Elentria

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With minerals as high as they are, there is gold in the reprocessing business right now.

Look for some insane deals on mods in the various regions.

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Originally by: Johnny Rockefeller

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Originally by: Kazzac Elentria

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With minerals as high as they are, there is gold in the reprocessing business right now.

Look for some insane deals on mods in the various regions.

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Just along that note real quick, do you usually need to have perfect refining skills to make a profit refining mods for minerals? I only have Refining to IV right now. I've spent hours on the market trying to find good mods to reprocess and can't seem to find any with a large enough profit margin to make it worth bothering with (i.e. most deals I find would get me 20 units of something with a profit/unit of only 5k or so). Am I just looking at the wrong items or do I need better refining skills to make it work? Or am I just not lucky enough?

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Originally by: Lo Lightshard

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Originally by: Johnny Rockefeller

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Originally by: Kazzac Elentria

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With minerals as high as they are, there is gold in the reprocessing business right now.

Look for some insane deals on mods in the various regions.

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Just along that note real quick, do you usually need to have perfect refining skills to make a profit refining mods for minerals? I only have Refining to IV right now. I've spent hours on the market trying to find good mods to reprocess and can't seem to find any with a large enough profit margin to make it worth bothering with (i.e. most deals I find would get me 20 units of something with a profit/unit of only 5k or so). Am I just looking at the wrong items or do I need better refining skills to make it work? Or am I just not lucky enough?

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You need scrap metal processing to reduce waste when reprocessing modules (and drone poo). It's a nasty little skill (unless you have it of course :) as you'll need refining, metallurgy and refining efficiency to lvl V.

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Originally by: Chssmius
I have good standings with a corp, refining 5, and refining efficiency 5. For me, in empire at least, I regularly get 99.5% actual refining efficiency without scrap metal processing. This won't be true everywhere in Eve, but until I can afford the training time to get metallurgy 5 it is enough to get me bye.[/quote

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FYI.

Originally by: valeronx

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Refining is not the same as Reprocessing.......the skills mentioned will get you to Zero in the "We Take" section, but to reduce the "Unrecoverable" section when reprocessing Modules, your going to need the Scrapmetal skill.

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Originally by: Johnny Rockefeller

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Originally by: Kazzac Elentria

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With minerals as high as they are, there is gold in the reprocessing business right now.

Look for some insane deals on mods in the various regions.

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Just along that note real quick, do you usually need to have perfect refining skills to make a profit refining mods for minerals? I only have Refining to IV right now. I've spent hours on the market trying to find good mods to reprocess and can't seem to find any with a large enough profit margin to make it worth bothering with (i.e. most deals I find would get me 20 units of something with a profit/unit of only 5k or so). Am I just looking at the wrong items or do I need better refining skills to make it work? Or am I just not lucky enough?

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Originally by: Lathbury

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Where are you getting your numbers for the mineral recoverable from modules from?

Am I missing something?

L

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Originally by: Cheopis

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You're looking in the wrong place, or you are looking at the wrong stuff. I bought 250 million isks worth of stuff between 90% and 10% below mineral value two days ago in Citadel. All within 5 jumps of where I was. All of it with direct buys. I've probably bought another 50 mills worth of stuff with open buy orders at 70% of mineral value in the same area.

There was plenty left that was more than 5 jumps from where I bought at, I'm just operating on a smaller scale since I have only one Caldari faction that I can refine perfectly with currently, and I need to stay pretty close to where I'm based at now for production and delivery activities wih my new corp. Give me a couple weeks and I'll be doing region wide again :)

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Originally by: ShadowandLight

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1) No, there's still plenty of trit to be had for under 3 isk. The 3.5+ prices in some hubs is due to speculation NOT demand. A glut of cheap ships is your opportunity to make the speculators lose their shirts.

2) If you can't perfectly reprocess, find somone who can, don't just melt yours, clear the underpriced inventory off the market and melt it too. Remember to take fees/taxes into account when selling the minerals you don't keep for later use. Otherwise even a 0.1% profit is worth going after if it's instantaneous and part of a bigger package with with other ships at larger margins.

Not just for the profit you'll make on the minerals, but also clearing the glut of cheap ships off the market so you can resume normal operations sooner. Unless you like the idea of waiting a week or two for all those underpriced ships to move to normal buyers? During which time you won't sell a single ship profitably.

I cleared almost 50 same-type battleships out of 1 station this way yesterday myself. Still some underpriced left on the market, but not so much as to be profitable to melt. But now it will take 1 day for them to sell instead of a 8 or 9. A side benefit of such an abrupt clearing of inventory is other manufacuterers can't always respond quickly. So the hub could actually sell out, and if you hold a few in reserve when doing the big meltdown, you could actually be jacking prices up even higher than normal the next day when you're the only seller left.

3) That depends how long you continue to confuse opportunity with difficulty.

Originally by: Molock Saronen

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Edited by: Molock Saronen on 20/11/2008 09:20:48

Originally by: Chssmius
I have good standings with a corp, refining 5, and refining efficiency 5. For me, in empire at least, I regularly get 99.5% actual refining efficiency without scrap metal processing. This won't be true everywhere in Eve, but until I can afford the training time to get metallurgy 5 it is enough to get me bye.[/quote

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FYI.

Originally by: valeronx

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Refining is not the same as Reprocessing.......the skills mentioned will get you to Zero in the "We Take" section, but to reduce the "Unrecoverable" section when reprocessing Modules, your going to need the Scrapmetal skill.

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Then I maybe reading something wrong or misunderstanding what I am seeing.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1557/funnyrefiningzp9.png

This is for 4 Capacitor Flux Coils.

I interpret that as saying I have ~99.5% efficiency(or better?) in reprocessing the modules. Am I mistaken in this?

If I am not mistaken in my understanding, then is it a bug? It has behaved this way for months(I only started reprocessing about 6 to 8 months ago) and several major patches.

EDIT: included a direct link.

Originally by: Francin Ikis

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thre is implant in LP store that is very cheap and offers 1% refining boost. With that i get 99.99% efficiency thare are better ones with 3% and 5% but for much more isk

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