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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.07.12 12:22:00 -
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After having scraped away the layers of flaming and hijacking thread, it seems to be suggestions for getting people out of secure space (1.0-0.5, call it what you will) and into less-secure space (0.4-0.1). This seems to me a perfectly honourable course of action, yet people seem to feel the need to whine and name-call *sigh*.
Anyway, if this is the intention, then my suggestion is a very simple one; remove Noxcium from 1.0-0.5. At the moment there is nothing you can get in 0.4-0.1 that you can't get in 'safe' space. I include npcs in that, because you can hunt them much more profitably by doing kill missions.
It's only one idea, but it would give miners a reason to venture a little further out. CCP could even contemplate puting a little zyd in hem or hed, just as a teaser. That would require careful consideration though. Oh, and we'd have to put up with people whining about taking their BATTLEships to places where people can, well, battle. But hey, anybody who reads/posts here should be used to whining by now.
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.07.12 12:22:00 -
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After having scraped away the layers of flaming and hijacking thread, it seems to be suggestions for getting people out of secure space (1.0-0.5, call it what you will) and into less-secure space (0.4-0.1). This seems to me a perfectly honourable course of action, yet people seem to feel the need to whine and name-call *sigh*.
Anyway, if this is the intention, then my suggestion is a very simple one; remove Noxcium from 1.0-0.5. At the moment there is nothing you can get in 0.4-0.1 that you can't get in 'safe' space. I include npcs in that, because you can hunt them much more profitably by doing kill missions.
It's only one idea, but it would give miners a reason to venture a little further out. CCP could even contemplate puting a little zyd in hem or hed, just as a teaser. That would require careful consideration though. Oh, and we'd have to put up with people whining about taking their BATTLEships to places where people can, well, battle. But hey, anybody who reads/posts here should be used to whining by now.
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Gaijin Lanis
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Posted - 2004.07.12 12:38:00 -
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Less people are out there, thats all the reason I need.
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Gaijin Lanis
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Posted - 2004.07.12 12:38:00 -
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Less people are out there, thats all the reason I need.
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Wicked Warrior
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Posted - 2004.07.23 08:29:00 -
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Good ideas here, but CCP is going in totally another direction with the recent changes in the sentrys now. It's getting safer and safer and no more isk-making in unsafe empire space.... 
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Wicked Warrior
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Posted - 2004.07.23 08:29:00 -
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Good ideas here, but CCP is going in totally another direction with the recent changes in the sentrys now. It's getting safer and safer and no more isk-making in unsafe empire space....
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Fuse
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Posted - 2004.07.23 08:37:00 -
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Plunge EvE in to a war between the rats and the empires. I want to see stations on fire. Lets see some action!
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Fuse
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Posted - 2004.07.23 08:37:00 -
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Plunge EvE in to a war between the rats and the empires. I want to see stations on fire. Lets see some action!
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.23 08:50:00 -
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Edited by: Selim on 23/07/2004 08:55:04
Sentry guns are outta control. 
Something needs to be done to make 0.1-0.4 both much more dangerous, and much more profitable.
Getting rid of gate guns altogether would do the trick. However, there would need to be a staged concord/empire police responce. Very, very fast and numerous police in 1.0 to 0.8, 0.7-0.5 would be less so. 0.4 to 0.1 would have police only coming occasionally to assist combat victims, with rare patrols of only a few ships and slow responce times. Pirating would be easier and could be done with ships other than battleships like it is now, but still risky because there's always the chance that the police will decide enough is enough, or a routine patrol will stumble on you. 0.0 empire space would have no concord or empire police whatsoever, the only difference between it and frontier 0.0 would be you still lose security status for performing criminal acts within.
In addition make concord not uber and warping to wherever you are in 1 second, but give them decent ships. In secure empire I'd like to see large fleets patrolling the moons, planets and such, and see them actually warping when there's a problem.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.23 08:50:00 -
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Edited by: Selim on 23/07/2004 08:55:04
Sentry guns are outta control.
Something needs to be done to make 0.1-0.4 both much more dangerous, and much more profitable.
Getting rid of gate guns altogether would do the trick. However, there would need to be a staged concord/empire police responce. Very, very fast and numerous police in 1.0 to 0.8, 0.7-0.5 would be less so. 0.4 to 0.1 would have police only coming occasionally to assist combat victims, with rare patrols of only a few ships and slow responce times. Pirating would be easier and could be done with ships other than battleships like it is now, but still risky because there's always the chance that the police will decide enough is enough, or a routine patrol will stumble on you. 0.0 empire space would have no concord or empire police whatsoever, the only difference between it and frontier 0.0 would be you still lose security status for performing criminal acts within.
In addition make concord not uber and warping to wherever you are in 1 second, but give them decent ships. In secure empire I'd like to see large fleets patrolling the moons, planets and such, and see them actually warping when there's a problem.
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Varia
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:15:00 -
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Edited by: Varia on 23/07/2004 10:16:50
This might seem very alien to some players of eve but rather than using words like ôDEMANDö, ôI DEMANDö etc how about using words like ôPleaseö or words like ôThank Youö.
Try it you might get a better response.
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Varia
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:15:00 -
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Edited by: Varia on 23/07/2004 10:16:50
This might seem very alien to some players of eve but rather than using words like ôDEMANDö, ôI DEMANDö etc how about using words like ôPleaseö or words like ôThank Youö.
Try it you might get a better response.
Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
sableye
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:23:00 -
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I worked out it's better for me to mine scordite in high (.9 and 1.0) secure than either omber in .7 and below or jaspet in .4 and below simply because you can get away with using mining drones non stop and if you have harvestors it only makes it worse, although it would help if good mining drones were more disposable so they were wrth risking using more often on t6he middle roids at the momant they can only repay themselves if you keep them safe and don't lose them or take them to 0.0 and mine bistot or something so even if you lose a couple they pay for themselves.
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sableye
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:23:00 -
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I worked out it's better for me to mine scordite in high (.9 and 1.0) secure than either omber in .7 and below or jaspet in .4 and below simply because you can get away with using mining drones non stop and if you have harvestors it only makes it worse, although it would help if good mining drones were more disposable so they were wrth risking using more often on t6he middle roids at the momant they can only repay themselves if you keep them safe and don't lose them or take them to 0.0 and mine bistot or something so even if you lose a couple they pay for themselves.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:26:00 -
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MINING DOES NOT NEED ANY MORE ISK INJECTED INTO IT.
I speak to Stan from xan, his mates are mining 500million of bistot / ark a night. MINERS NEED NO MORE MONEY.
Somthing that does need a money injection is pirating and pvp'ing, but I have no idea how.
You guys are pathic, there is plenty of isk in 0.0
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:26:00 -
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MINING DOES NOT NEED ANY MORE ISK INJECTED INTO IT.
I speak to Stan from xan, his mates are mining 500million of bistot / ark a night. MINERS NEED NO MORE MONEY.
Somthing that does need a money injection is pirating and pvp'ing, but I have no idea how.
You guys are pathic, there is plenty of isk in 0.0
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hatchette
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:43:00 -
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sutty.. noone denies that;)
we are merely discussing about 0.1-0.4 empire space not being profitable much more than 0.5-1.0
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hatchette
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:43:00 -
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sutty.. noone denies that;)
we are merely discussing about 0.1-0.4 empire space not being profitable much more than 0.5-1.0
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:51:00 -
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there shouldn't be much more of a profit increase in empire. You want isk you goto 0.0. I dont understand this idea people have about 0.0, It isn't that dangerous you can proberly travel round the outer edges with only seeing 10 people, and normaly they dont do anything. 0.0 isn't dangerous, all you have to do is watch local, and when people like myself enter local check the map see if there is more "blobs" comming, then take the appropiate action, be it safespot or fight.
if you really wanted, you could proberly move to fountain as a corp mine the heck out of the place then just safespot when FA comes to stop you. 
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:51:00 -
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there shouldn't be much more of a profit increase in empire. You want isk you goto 0.0. I dont understand this idea people have about 0.0, It isn't that dangerous you can proberly travel round the outer edges with only seeing 10 people, and normaly they dont do anything. 0.0 isn't dangerous, all you have to do is watch local, and when people like myself enter local check the map see if there is more "blobs" comming, then take the appropiate action, be it safespot or fight.
if you really wanted, you could proberly move to fountain as a corp mine the heck out of the place then just safespot when FA comes to stop you.
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Quix
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Posted - 2004.07.23 12:07:00 -
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 Originally by: Varia
Edited by: Varia on 23/07/2004 10:16:50
This might seem very alien to some players of eve but rather than using words like “DEMAND”, “I DEMAND” etc how about using words like “Please” or words like “Thank You”.
Try it you might get a better response.
The word DEMAND only is in the headline. That wakes your attention and therefore more people will start to read the content than otherwise. If you read my post you will see that I not demading much, its some suggestions that would make the game better in my oppinion. But I have problem writing in english so the content is not that nice and easy to understand, but on the responce it seems that most of the readers have understand the point, ither it is negative or positive repsonse.
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Quix
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Posted - 2004.07.23 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Varia
Edited by: Varia on 23/07/2004 10:16:50
This might seem very alien to some players of eve but rather than using words like “DEMAND”, “I DEMAND” etc how about using words like “Please” or words like “Thank You”.
Try it you might get a better response.
The word DEMAND only is in the headline. That wakes your attention and therefore more people will start to read the content than otherwise. If you read my post you will see that I not demading much, its some suggestions that would make the game better in my oppinion. But I have problem writing in english so the content is not that nice and easy to understand, but on the responce it seems that most of the readers have understand the point, ither it is negative or positive repsonse.
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Varia
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Posted - 2004.07.23 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: Varia on 23/07/2004 13:26:29
This is not meant as a flame or the like, (Thought I better make myself clear  )
It does attract peopleÆs attention thatÆs true, but it would seem it has not attracted the attention of the devs, which I would imagine is the main point of your post.
It just seems logical to me that if someone produces a polite well constructed logical post itÆs more like to gain the attention of the majority.
Sure your post attracted my attention but admittedly I never read the majority of what you said as the title seemed rude and I just felt like replying what I did above.
Maybe IÆm wrong I have been many times before but it just seems to me that a pilot post will go further than a rude one.
I suppose you could out your technique out in a pub, and demand to be served next, just to see what would happened.
Oh and P.s. I have read your post now and it would make things very interesting.
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Varia
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Posted - 2004.07.23 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: Varia on 23/07/2004 13:26:29
This is not meant as a flame or the like, (Thought I better make myself clear )
It does attract peopleÆs attention thatÆs true, but it would seem it has not attracted the attention of the devs, which I would imagine is the main point of your post.
It just seems logical to me that if someone produces a polite well constructed logical post itÆs more like to gain the attention of the majority.
Sure your post attracted my attention but admittedly I never read the majority of what you said as the title seemed rude and I just felt like replying what I did above.
Maybe IÆm wrong I have been many times before but it just seems to me that a pilot post will go further than a rude one.
I suppose you could out your technique out in a pub, and demand to be served next, just to see what would happened.
Oh and P.s. I have read your post now and it would make things very interesting.
Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |
chillz
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Posted - 2004.07.23 14:59:00 -
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The main problem is the amount of cover you need to run low sector mining. We can run a mining op in 0.5 for very little risk (drones can easily cover any defensive needs) and lots of gain with a good number of BS's mining (Don't get me started on the Battleships shouldn't be able to mount mining lasers).
When we move the op to 0.4 or below a number of those Battleships have to start running defence duties rather than mining. Mainly because people like you will turn up and start ganking the miners if there wansn't a number of tooled up BS's providing protection. Unfortunately the protectors still need their cut so the overall profit goes down.
If the rewards for going to 0.4 or below were something like a 50% increase on ISK yeild then lower sector ops would be worth while. As it is the 20% increase in ISK yeild can't compete with having another 8 Miner2's killing roids.
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"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S Thompson
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chillz
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Posted - 2004.07.23 14:59:00 -
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The main problem is the amount of cover you need to run low sector mining. We can run a mining op in 0.5 for very little risk (drones can easily cover any defensive needs) and lots of gain with a good number of BS's mining (Don't get me started on the Battleships shouldn't be able to mount mining lasers).
When we move the op to 0.4 or below a number of those Battleships have to start running defence duties rather than mining. Mainly because people like you will turn up and start ganking the miners if there wansn't a number of tooled up BS's providing protection. Unfortunately the protectors still need their cut so the overall profit goes down.
If the rewards for going to 0.4 or below were something like a 50% increase on ISK yeild then lower sector ops would be worth while. As it is the 20% increase in ISK yeild can't compete with having another 8 Miner2's killing roids.
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A gun and a packet of sandwiches.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S Thompson
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