Stop. Sharing. These. Killmails.

Also why would you fit it like that?

PvE of some sort is my guess.

Just thought I'd share this killmail with the residents of GD. Interesting to note that this was in the vicinity of an incursoin that's taking place in Sinq Laison. Another thing that made me laugh about this are the two Wyvern kills, each of which are half the ISK lost of the Vindi kill.

Wyvern 1, Wyvern 2

Lvl 4 mission runner. Some of the comments in that km say incursion but incursion runners would shun a ship with local reppers so ye, a very shiny lvl 4 ship ....

But even a full T2 tank is overkill for missioning and permatanking is bad for your efficiency.

At the risk of derailing this thread, anyone without a solid tank has to warp out of L4s so often it's bad for efficiency.

And it's not like it takes obscene amounts of DPS to kill things fast in L4s, anyway.

None of those fits remotely looks like an Incursion fit

I can get enough tank to tank ANY mission with just a Gistii X-Type X-Large Shield booster, 3 CCC rigs and 2 capacitor flux coils (cap stable). (And faction specific hardeners, blah blah blah).

Even before I had the Gistii booster, I could get through any mission with a gank-tank by not triggering spawns until I was ready.

You're not going to convince me it doesn't take lots of warping out. Eventually the worst case scenario will happen, and you'll be scrammed when you usually warp out, and boom.

I'm just speaking from my own experience, doing enough L4s to get 9.90 Minmatar standings, and 8.90 Gallente. Had plenty of time to try different things. Not going to insist you do things the way i've found is best, but i would encourage you to experiment instead of just doing the same thing all the time.

Tell me more about these mythical incursion wyverns

Level 4s are **** easy.

Exactly why a nearby incursion was mentioned is beyond me. Pulin area has a few Federal Customs agents I recall ( couple level 3&4's )which would be a better comment.

Exactly why a nearby incursion was mentioned is beyond me. Pulin area has a few Federal Customs agents I recall ( couple level 3&4's )which would be a better comment.

Killboards. Such epeen strokers they are. "High tech" game. "Ego-tech" math.
No wonder they're taken so SERIOUSLY by "some."

Uh...correct me if I'm wrong...module loss 19,776,516,397.00, ship loss 1,030,072,135.00.
How do you get 35 billion out of that?

OH! Add 12,733,629,795.00 for the loot? Uh....isn't that counting the value of the mods twice?

Killboards. Such epeen strokers they are. "High tech" game. "Ego-tech" math.
No wonder they're taken so SERIOUSLY by "some."

Uh...correct me if I'm wrong...module loss 19,776,516,397.00, ship loss 1,030,072,135.00.
How do you get 35 billion out of that?

OH! Add 12,733,629,795.00 for the loot? Uh....isn't that counting the value of the mods twice?

Killboards. Such epeen strokers they are. "High tech" game. "Ego-tech" math.
No wonder they're taken so SERIOUSLY by "some."

If angel extravaganza is the hardest you've seen, you haven't done many.



And what about when an entire fleet is right on top on you after using a gate to warp in? Haven't had that happen yet? I think you'll enjoy it.

Just want to point out one thing everybody seems to be missing.
The rigs are ALL FITTING RIGS.

One T2 rig to reduce CPU usage of guns, 2 rigs to improve PG.
None of which are needed if you got decent skills.

For 33 billion he could have bought a decent toon.

PvE of some sort is my guess.

Interesting to note that this was in the vicinity of an incursoin that's taking place in Sinq Laison.

If angel extravaganza is the hardest you've seen, you haven't done many.



And what about when an entire fleet is right on top on you after using a gate to warp in? Haven't had that happen yet? I think you'll enjoy it.

*cough* Worlds Freaking Collide *cough*

And three part Gallente Minmatar faction mission. The name escapes me. But neither is easy solo. And you will lose your faction shiny if you disrespect the aggro.

what in the actual ****.

I've been running level 4s for the last two days straight to grind standings up for a station trading alt, I've been completely ignoring aggro/triggers and I haven't bothered swapping from my omni-tank.

If your definition of dangerous or difficult is worlds collide I strongly recommend you warp into the last room of the blood 10/10. Or take your mission ship for a stroll through fountain, whichever takes your fancy.

I've been running level 4s for the last two days straight to grind standings up for a station trading alt, I've been completely ignoring aggro/triggers and I haven't bothered swapping from my omni-tank.

If your definition of dangerous or difficult is worlds collide I strongly recommend you warp into the last room of the blood 10/10. Or take your mission ship for a stroll through fountain, whichever takes your fancy.

Another thing that made me laugh about this are the two Wyvern kills...

Wyvern 1

.5 system. War dec? Why would you undock? Also why would you fit it like that?

I want to pose serious questions:


Was it ever the intent of the game designers for such a pimped ship to ever exist?

Was it the intent of the game design for there to be so many officer modules existing or is this a product of botting?

Eh. Who cares? The idiot bought it, flew it, and lost it. Someone got really happy with the drop. The rest of us got a nice moment of schadenfreude.

EVE is working as intended.

Obv u win at Eve. Post ur fit so that I may bask in your brilliance.

while you are moaning about missions. try the worlds collide amarr style. You hit the gate wrong and you agro everything in the room and you are double webbed and scrammed and the DPS was enough to break the tank on 4 mission fit hardeners with two faction fit reppers.

And now imagine you have like 500billions (i've seen some people saying they have it in forums). And you are buying stuff for lazy lvl4 running. Your choice? Reasonable analysys, EFT-warrioring, careful reading and processing mission info, buying "the most cheap" stuff over the universe?

I agree with you in principle, but there comes a point where spending more on a ship simply doesn't give you a reasonable performance increase. In fact past a certain point it starts to degrade performance because you cannot be as reckless with the ship.

My questions are serious. I don't care about how people feel.


My problem with that now dead ship is, after 35 billion ISK, it's still a battle ship and a destructable battle ship. Why even bother in the first place?

It's like a Porche that occasionally turns up in the parking lot next to where I work, it's a 160 thousand dollar car, but I can't help but think "after all that money, it's still just a car".

This but really LOL

i'm not as rich as some people....
However i used to run Rogue Drone hordes in my Nyx. Just for fun. You know it's funny: Nyx starts to need its primary tank (armor) only after 3-4 horde in a row. Passive shield amount and regen is simply toooooo strong

I used to run 10/10 escalations with my Tengu(4-5 billions in stuff) + Machariel (2-3 billions) + Nightmare (1-2 billions). Was i needing all those ISKies? Nope. At all. I just made fit which fits into my tasks and used it. Many times i wanted to check if i can replace something in tengu (Gist-X type fitted tank) to make it less expensive. But.... Every time it is too lazy to try and risk.

Sometime ISKies aren't so important......

Yeah, I ran a few sanctums/havens in a Wyvern once. Rats didn't even break the passive recharge :D Was ridiculously boring though, I ended up giving up anomalies and just doing exploration purely because I couldn't sit down and do them for more than an hour at a time.

Anomalies and dead space sites differ somewhat to mission running though, if you've got any sense you'll be running anomalies in a system that doesn't have any blues you don't know in and dead space... well, it's gated. It isn't hard to stick an alt on the gate. Running around high sec in a 36 billion ISK ship with an active wardec however, that kind of stupidity isn't even in the same league as sticking a bit of x-type on your plexing fits

Besides, 5 or 6 billion isn't a great amount. Hell, you can make a billion or more clearing a single c3 if you take the time to find a decent one. And if you're in a decent alliance that controls an entire region you can earn 5-6b in a day pretty easily with exploration, just by systematically scanning, jumping in ships and blitzing sites.

In comparison 36 billion ISK on a ship means that if you ever do lose the ship, it probably isn't going to have paid for itself. Especially not if you were using it to run level fours.

"For example, if you are thinking about selling a Republic Fleet Firetail as a regular Firetail, be sure that the market volume is high on regular Firetails and that there are plenty of buy/sell contracts for Republic Fleet Firetails. [...] The players most interested in Republic Fleet Firetails are going to be players flying regular ones." -- PB

and THIS is why PLEX is good for the game!