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Htrag
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Posted - 2012.04.08 01:46:00 -
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Speaking for the -10 contingent.... we simply pop whatever is presented to us... hauler... fraction battleship its all good.
If u cant hack getting your uninsured crap ganked because you jumped unscouted into lowsec, we didn't want you any way. Whatever "dev" it was that removed the pod squish sound probably never even logged into the game. |

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Posted - 2012.04.08 01:51:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:
The main question is: Why aren't gankers out in low and null sec attacking people that can ably fight back? That's obvious enough, too. They're CHICKEN. They suck at the game, and they'd have their @$$3$ handed to them by people who actually KNOW how to fight, and win.
Well because we simply blow you up regardless because we're better. Whatever "dev" it was that removed the pod squish sound probably never even logged into the game. |

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Posted - 2012.04.08 02:00:00 -
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Richard Hammond II wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:Then do it. Civilize highsec. Impossible. The game mechanics allow for ganking, they don't allow for civilizing. There is no lasting consequence to someone who ganks. But being ganked has consequences that cannot be avoided. Sure there is, He's a simple one, allow anyone that is +2 or above shoot anyone that is -2 or below. Have this not be considered a criminal act. . hell yes
You're just talking about a game machanic change that wont make you any better. All things being equal you still get blowed up. Whatever "dev" it was that removed the pod squish sound probably never even logged into the game. |

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Posted - 2012.04.08 02:04:00 -
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Gunrunner1775 wrote:im not saying get rid of PVP, but i am saying that the implimentation of the security measures to protect players from ganking/greifing or what ever you want to call it have been poorly implimented. its hard to stop a suicide bomber
Well you could use basic situational awareness which applies to every second you're in space anywhere. Whatever "dev" it was that removed the pod squish sound probably never even logged into the game. |

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Posted - 2012.04.08 02:22:00 -
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Panacani wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:Then do it. Civilize highsec. Impossible. The game mechanics allow for ganking, they don't allow for civilizing. There is no lasting consequence to someone who ganks. But being ganked has consequences that cannot be avoided. Sure there is, He's a simple one, allow anyone that is +2 or above shoot anyone that is -2 or below. Have this not be considered a criminal act. Guess what will happen, the gankers will cry and bleat and scream about how concord doesn't protect them enough. Creates a whole new career in Eve and puts the onus on the carebear to protect his own. Best idea I've read on these forums in ever. This idea should have it's own thread.
You know what I love about Eve?.
Theres so many carebears and moral justice advocates that try to apply some type of different logic how the game actually works, particularly in regards to their own shortcomings.
"If I can't survive, lets change the rules"
No dude, harden yourself up or find a new game. That's how we roll. Whatever "dev" it was that removed the pod squish sound probably never even logged into the game. |

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Posted - 2012.04.08 02:41:00 -
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SigmaPi wrote:I don't consider myself an elite pvp master, but everyone has to admit that a pair of shitfit thrashers able to kill a 200m isk hulk in a few seconds is at the very least slightly unbalanced. Most of the gankers dont realize that their ships have to come from somewhere, and it's not gonna be drone lands any longer.
That being said, it shouldn't be hendered by game mechanics at all - just maybe balance the hp of exhumers a little bit better (or fitting) so the risk required to kill one is more than 5m isk.
To be honest I would have expected them to buff hulks base defense a long time ago.
Although that would just require a corresponding adjustment into the number of 1M Catalysts required. Whatever "dev" it was that removed the pod squish sound probably never even logged into the game. |

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Posted - 2012.04.08 02:52:00 -
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Panacani wrote: Wow, such passion. Such fire. So many words to say basically nothing!
I've never been ganked, suicide or otherwise. I've died many times in wartime, but I've never been "ganked" (nor have I ganked anyone, I prefer combat to target practice).
Calling for a change in flawed mechanics is hardly something new for Eve is it? Change isn't evil.
Also, HTFU and derivatives got old as soon as the 4 minute video ended.
welcome to eve homie.
state your case more specifically. Whatever "dev" it was that removed the pod squish sound probably never even logged into the game. |

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Posted - 2012.04.08 03:01:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:Then do it. Civilize highsec. Impossible. The game mechanics allow for ganking, they don't allow for civilizing. There is no lasting consequence to someone who ganks. But being ganked has consequences that cannot be avoided. Sure there is, He's a simple one, allow anyone that is +2 or above shoot anyone that is -2 or below. Have this not be considered a criminal act. Guess what will happen, the gankers will cry and bleat and scream about how concord doesn't protect them enough. ***** please, that'd be ******* paradise. -Liang
c'mon man I know you have more refined thoughts than this.
It's all worked out. Just because someone is yellow in high sec doesn't mean it's a free target.
There's a staggered sec drop penalty per system thats in place.
Whatever "dev" it was that removed the pod squish sound probably never even logged into the game. |

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Posted - 2012.04.08 03:31:00 -
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Richard Hammond II wrote:Htrag wrote:
You're just talking about a game machanic change that wont make you any better. All things being equal you still get blowed up.
Yet things usually arent, Two week old catalyst gankers SHOULD lose vs six year combat mains youd think Htrag wrote: Well you could use basic situational awareness which applies to every second you're in space anywhere.
Advocating crippling the fundamental basics of what makes eve unique just makes you weak and lazy.
Why would making MORE PVP (and making high sec more directly player policed) in high sec be "crippling the fundamental basics of what makes eve unique"? I think itd be a lot COOLER if we could shoot the negatives and have CONCORD not care Jita Alt666 wrote: 3. Eve is the only game where you are not safe anywhere
Unless youre a ganker in high sec then the "security" works for you not against you till you get deep in the negatives Htrag wrote: You know what I love about Eve?.
Theres so many carebears and moral justice advocates that try to apply some type of different logic how the game actually works, particularly in regards to their own shortcomings.
"If I can't survive, lets change the rules"
No dude, harden yourself up or find a new game. That's how we roll.
Are you THAT threatened by them actally making it difficult to gank? what about risk/reward? Isnt that usually what you guys crow?
That's kinda funny.
You call for more targets in high sec, but whatever agros in high sec is already a target, so the position is just a cop out.
I dont see any kind of threat to ganking in this thread.
Like I said you drop your guard, you get owned... period. Low sec, high sec, null sec. .. everywhere. Whatever "dev" it was that removed the pod squish sound probably never even logged into the game. |

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Posted - 2012.04.08 03:31:00 -
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Panacani wrote: I think thats exactly the point. He doesn't want to fight.
You see me anywhere... you shoot.
Most likely you'll die...
Dont cry. Whatever "dev" it was that removed the pod squish sound probably never even logged into the game. |
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