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engimonger
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Posted - 2008.11.22 14:16:00 -
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I too was surprised at how many missiles it took from my CNR to kill smaller ships in QR. So, I took Drones to 'V' and it opened up a whole new world of drone skills for me. What a difference.
Adapt - you may find the challenge is actually fun!
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Karentaki
Gallente Fighting While Intoxicated Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.11.22 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Karentaki on 22/11/2008 20:35:41
Originally by: Kate Roger I wish they would stop nerfing stuff ... ... ... EVERYONE can fly ANY ship and use ANY weapon so what exactly is the problem
Originally by: Kate Roger i just spent the last 6 months training most if not all my missle skills to lvl 5 thats my time and my money that I spent on game time.
Does... Not... Compute...
Please, if you're going to argue on a forum, at least work out which side you are arguing against.
ITT: Caldari finally prove they really are brain-dead.
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EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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bjtardiff
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Posted - 2008.11.22 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: bjtardiff on 22/11/2008 22:27:12
Originally by: Kate Roger I wish they would stop nerfing stuff, Oh i hear you say "it makes the game more rounded and even" sorry i have to reply what a lot of crap that is. EVERYONE can fly ANY ship and use ANY weapon so what exactly is the problem, but my biggest gripe is i just spent the last 6 months training most if not all my missle skills to lvl 5 thats my time and my money that I spent on game time. if they want the game fair and rounded remove all the slots, fit all the ships the same, and remove the other 3 races. problem solved.
/rant
If you have all the support skills to lvl 5 then the nerf didn't really do anything to you. Unless your lying and only got 1 or 2 to lvl 5 in which case yes the nerf sucks for you I still have missles and going to continue to use them.
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nether void
Caldari Shrapnel Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.23 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: engimonger I too was surprised at how many missiles it took from my CNR to kill smaller ships in QR. So, I took Drones to 'V' and it opened up a whole new world of drone skills for me. What a difference.
Adapt - you may find the challenge is actually fun!
Yep Drone Interfacing FTW! =D +20% drone damage per skill level --------------------
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Molish
Gallente Defenders of Faith The Black Isle
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Posted - 2008.11.23 20:10:00 -
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Getting frequency modulation to IV for good measure would be a good idea. Increase that falloff of your target painters and such.
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.11.24 15:50:00 -
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I'd like to subscribe to your news letter. [center]
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Boon McBwen
Caldari State Protectorate Academy
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Posted - 2008.11.25 01:03:00 -
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Edited by: Boon McBwen on 25/11/2008 01:03:29
Originally by: Just fearless so there i was sitting there going man this is takeing a while. i was shooting a moa in my drake and it took 37 X 7 missiles to sink it i was hitting for under 50s in hual! back a few weeks ago i would be hiting 150s+ but now they just kinda ruind the game for ALL caldari cuz thats what 90% of our ships are based around.
so im going to send ccp 1 message aday till they fix it. I mean i love the game but if ur going to ruin the game for alota people just so some people wont complain. if you agree send them 1 message a day till they fix the heavys and lights. cruzes that was needed haveing that kinda range made them such a big thing on the battle feald now there down to size. thank you for reading fear
I'm just sitting here wondering what your skill levels are...
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WillageGirl
Advanced Tactics and Maneuvers
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Posted - 2008.11.25 17:04:00 -
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My missiles work just fine, there must be something wrong with yours. Check the expiration date or something ...
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Rilwar
BlackStar Industrial
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Posted - 2008.11.26 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Just fearless so there i was sitting there going man this is takeing a while. i was shooting a moa in my drake and it took 37 X 7 missiles to sink it i was hitting for under 50s in hual! back a few weeks ago i would be hiting 150s+ but now they just kinda ruind the game for ALL caldari cuz thats what 90% of our ships are based around.
so im going to send ccp 1 message aday till they fix it. I mean i love the game but if ur going to ruin the game for alota people just so some people wont complain. if you agree send them 1 message a day till they fix the heavys and lights. cruzes that was needed haveing that kinda range made them such a big thing on the battle feald now there down to size. thank you for reading
fear
Originally by: Just fearless but to complitly nerf 1 race so others will stop Bi**hing well the amar blasters are over powerd!! come on ccp dont make the game suck! i ghess i gota start looking for a new online game to play whats the mech worrier online game is comeign soon so.. idk
Can you stop training missiles skills and train Spelling V as well as Grammar V, maybe Punctuation IV, and for the love of god get at LEAST Sentence Structure IV as well. It only takes 12 odd years of training! ------------------------------------------ FTW \o/ |
Kufan'ni
Minmatar Halfira Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.27 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Rid**** Ulust ... its rid****ulust that i would need two target painters on a battleship(!) for my torps to do ~100% of the damage. ...
What's ridiculous is for anyone to expect to do 100% of their optimal damage in pvp.
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titan hunter
DeepSpace Technologies Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.11.27 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Just fearless i ghess i gota start looking for a new online game to play
Can I have your stuff
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RzrScoutAlt
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Posted - 2008.11.27 13:19:00 -
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i think he is right drake should be the pwn. maybe give it a huge passive tank = too a bs and a full rack of missiles with more range than guns that hit everytime and do insane dmg. call it a battlecruiser and every new player should get one asap.
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Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.11.27 13:26:00 -
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It is all about the drone skills baby
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Daevonar
Minmatar Starfish Operating Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.11.27 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Drago Wolfson I am a Caldari Missile Wh*re and the missile damage nerf was needed but it has been taken a little too far IMO. Even with a painter it takes an inordinate amount of time to kill an elite frigate or cruiser with Cruise missiles. Yeah drones do a job, but when you have 4 or 5 scramming frigs on you in PVE it is waaaaay too close a run thing now. Although a couple of jammers can help.....
But at least you can kil lthat frigate with your missiles... as soon as it gets much under 10k, my 720mm arty just can't touch them due to turret tracking. Drones are the only way to protect me then. I could fit auto's but then I'd struggle to hit anything at a distance, and have to close on ships first. Missiles hit at both ranges with no change to the damage they do... seems kind of a fair trade.
Also cruise missiles are BS weapons... any BS weapon has a hard time killing frigates. Dae.
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Robert Hansson
Caldari Big Shadows Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.27 14:11:00 -
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well, the sad thing about it is that, while yes missiles are THE **** in pve, in pvp they don't have the dps to make for a good dps ship.
That said, the possitive thing with missiles is that in allmost any case you will do some dmg. Thats what they nerfed now, they removed the "allways doing dmg" thing with missiles.
Now the sad thing with all of this is that hands down the most effective caldari pvp ship is the falcon, and as you other races whine ALOT about those.... anyway.. thats not my problem as a caldari pilot, is it?
So the thing to do for caldari chars is to train for the falcon (or some other support ship, like ceptors or scorpions) and become fleet support/EWAR.
Because, I still think a fleet made up of 1/4 falcon will be rather scary to play against..
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Angel4e
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Posted - 2008.11.27 21:45:00 -
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why BCS dont give dmg boost,only RoF?
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Noskill McCheese
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Posted - 2008.11.28 02:17:00 -
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Mmmmm caldari tears, the achura ones are the sweetest. Sorry your 0 charisma char that only trains missile and shield skills isn't working out anymore.
P.S. that was sarcasm, I know thinking for yourselves isn't your thing
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Cyprus Black
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.11.28 03:16:00 -
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Well, when they nerfed missiles so hard, the least they could've done is swapped out all the caldari missile bonuses on their ships for something practical. Would've made sense. ___________________________________________________ The Escapist: EvE Online video review. |
Napro
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.28 03:28:00 -
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Now just nerf drones and we'll all be even again
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Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.11.28 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Napro Now just nerf drones and we'll all be even again
Let's look at the drone nerfs vs the missile nerfs I've lived through in eve: -Drone bandwidth introduced, kills off the eos and myrmi (domi is better in every way) -Drone shield recharge nerf -Nos nerf, not specifically drones but given that drone ships and nos go hand in hand... -Med drone nerf
Now let's look at the missile nerfs I've lived through: -This one.
Missiles have not been nerfed in a long, long time, and having to sacrifice tank to deal full damage? Welcome to the world the rest of us have been living in these last few years.
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Captator
Universal Securities
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Posted - 2008.11.29 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jelosavich
Originally by: Just fearless amar blasters
O_o
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2008.11.29 20:57:00 -
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As lie as cake , i saw alot nerf to missiles mostly tech2 ,some with other tech2 ammo nerf ,some for missile balanceÖ
Originally by: Cambarus
Now let's look at the missile nerfs I've lived through: -This one.
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Kioko Dal
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Posted - 2008.11.30 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kate Roger I wish they would stop nerfing stuff, Oh i hear you say "it makes the game more rounded and even" sorry i have to reply what a lot of crap that is. EVERYONE can fly ANY ship and use ANY weapon so what exactly is the problem, but my biggest gripe is i just spent the last 6 months training most if not all my missle skills to lvl 5 thats my time and my money that I spent on game time. if they want the game fair and rounded remove all the slots, fit all the ships the same, and remove the other 3 races. problem solved.
/rant
Haha. That is the funniest joke I have heard in a long... wait. Are you serious? You are serious, aren't you?
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Ivan Kinsikor
Amarr Void Engineers Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.30 14:01:00 -
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Oh noes the Caldari actually have to face the fact that battleship sized weapons barely scratch smaller targets! Nice to see the missile-jutsu finally get a slap in the face to bring it more inline with the things turret users have been dealing with for years.
Having come back to Eve after playing WAR for a bit, I'm really enjoying all the changes that have been made. :D Seeing an ocean of Caldari tears around Jita makes me happy. |
NeoTheo
Dark Materials
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Posted - 2008.12.01 15:13:00 -
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to the op, what are your skills in TNP and GMP? and also target painting? if both of theseskills ((TNP and GMP) are not at least 4 you just CANT complain.
you now need to put skill points in to missiles to have them work, they are more skill intensive than they used to be.
they are still workable, just need to have the correct skills in place.
- DAMT -
If you dont know, well, you dont know!
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Daergaar
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.12.01 19:46:00 -
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I have a second Drake I use for PvP, it's fitted with HAM and web (but not a painter). I have no trouble taking out cruisers like a Moa. The Moa can't even scratch my tank, and it's not going anywhere when it's webbed and scrambled.
Use the right damage type for the job, and the proper missiles and launchers, and you won't have a problem. The Drake is still good. I hope you have Ballistic Control Units.
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Watain
Caldari Ministry of Destruction
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Posted - 2008.12.07 21:14:00 -
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Edited by: Watain on 07/12/2008 21:15:26 I dont get why annyone would fire cruise missiles at cruisers and smaller classes...? Since i finished Drones V and many other drones support skils i have not fired a cruise missile at a smaller target since then (which was after 3 months of playing this game).
ALL u fools that whine about cruise or torps not hitting with as equal dmg as before, addapt. I didnt need a missile nerf to force me to use a target painter, thats just common sence. Make the enemy ship bigger in signature = more dmg to it.
edit: im not using cruise in pvp, torps and target painter, yes
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Jamir Estheroth
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Posted - 2008.12.08 21:32:00 -
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I am Caldari, and I enjoy using a mix of missiles and other weapons. You cannot just focus on one, or even one type of missile. Different damage types are good against different enemies. Like everyone above me said, you need to adapt. I am having alot of fun with my ship, and I like my missiles, but I always have a backup because missiles are not the god of all weapons. They are good, they are fun, and they sound damn beautiful when they leave the tube, but there are always better weapons, and you need to learn how to optimize your tactics, rather than relying on one weapon system. And yes, I know that there are ships that rely only on missiles. Guess what, I hopped on my Kestrel today, and took down 4 Moas with under one hundred missiles. (I don't know how many I used at this time, I just know that I had only 100 missiles with me.)
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.12.08 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Captator
Originally by: Jelosavich
Originally by: Just fearless amar blasters
O_o
Hi jelosavich btw o/
@ OP: OH NO taking down elite cruisers and frigs is hard omg oh no what will you do oh wait you'll do what the rest of us did train drone skills, t2 lights with interfacing IV take down elite frigs quickly, and train up tracking / precision skills and elite cruisers will still be tough (rightly so) but die much faster. __________________________________
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Rabbit Pearl
Caldari Gemini Technologies Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.12.19 07:15:00 -
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Heres a simplified Diagram:
Pre-Patch: ------------ Pilot w/ bad missle skills = effective Pilot w/ bad gunnery skills = not effective Pilot w/ good gunnery skills = effective Pilot w/ good missle skills = effective
Post-Patch: ------------ Pilot w/ bad missle skills = not effective Pilot w/ bad gunnery skills = not effective Pilot w/ good gunnery skills = effective Pilot w/ good missle skills = effective
The difference is subtle. Except to those people who fall into first category. Who Emo rage about it on the forums.
Newsflash: No one cares how many missles it takes you to kill a moa.
If you Spent half the time/effort that u waste posting threads, instead using it to advance your missle skills... then youd be much more &
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