It doesn't take that long at all unless you plan on using it to siege up and give bonuses.

Ah a clueless goon blathering nonsense. Imagine that.

Day 1 ore mining ship... Mining needs ships to train for beyond the Hulk. If you specialize a character in mining...you're done in 2 months ship wise...but if you are combat oriented...you literally have years of training to do.

Good interview though, thx for sharing it!

He's talking about getting into the hull, which it really doesn't take all that long, I should know.

90 days minimum. It's all relative. But then you may as well be in a car up on blocks for all it's worth at that point.

have to agree here, adding a midway ore vessel is useless, retrievers and covetors are the midway to a hulk, what we need is something for miners to train towards after they get a hulk, after 2-3 months your basically done with your mining alt its stupid

That may be in the works as well, but here they're talking about something to replace the racial mining frigates and cruisers when they undergo tiericide.

Three gaps exist wrt mining:
1 - the jump from frigs to cruiser, which they seem to acknowledge is a burden on new players.
2 - the jump from retriever to hulk, which is too big in terms of training and can be easily fixed by setting astrogeology 4 instead of 5 to fly a Covetor. Given CCP's stance on #1, this should be a no-brainer and is super easy to fix
3 - lack of a capital mining ship that gives null sec miners the superiority they deserve

lol new mining frigs. Way to fail CCP. what a waste of dev time.

I hear they are going to add 'capital shuttles' to their line of useless ships after they finish with the mining frigates.

Because CCP does not consider Mining to be a long-term career choice in EvE.

It is the Miners that insist that Mining all day is a valid playstyle.


CCP intends you to learn mining and do it when you aren't doing other eve activities. I'm sure they are surprised how people can dedicate their entire eve experience to just mining.

The fact that there is such little to train and literally NO changes to mining in the past decade support this.

Because CCP does not consider Mining to be a long-term career choice in EvE.

It is the Miners that insist that Mining all day is a valid playstyle.


CCP intends you to learn mining and do it when you aren't doing other eve activities. I'm sure they are surprised how people can dedicate their entire eve experience to just mining.

The fact that there is such little to train and literally NO changes to mining in the past decade support this.

As much as I would hate to see a new player go mining first, helping newbros and giving them options is never a waste of time.

ON 2, I think you mean the training jump from Retriever to Covetor? It's a HUGE jump for what is still a T1 Barge.

As much as I would hate to see a new player go mining first, helping newbros and giving them options is never a waste of time.

It doesn't take that long at all unless you plan on using it to siege up and give bonuses.

At this point and by your own terms then flying battleships it's a matter of weeks, frigs/cruisers a couple days.

You are not playing a game obviously. You are playing a private version of 2nd Life because your real one must a shambles. You take things way too seriously....to take you seriously.

And if this is the case, have you ever even considered a game without anything resembling a miner anywhere nearby ? Hmm ?

Psychiotic is psychotic.

90 days minimum. It's all relative. But then you may as well be in a car up on blocks for all it's worth at that point.