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Venomire
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.20 04:16:00 -
[511]
Wait, we didn't. I wonder why.
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Venomire
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.20 04:17:00 -
[512]
What was so very different between the PL and -A- resets? The details, so elusive. Someone, please, remind me.
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Mimeux
Amarr THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 04:19:00 -
[513]
Originally by: Venomire Yes, because we reacted the same way when PL reset us.
That was a fake reset and everyone knows it. PL would never hotdrop a Goon cap or shoot at any Goon whatsoever if they had a choice. They even publicly stated that if Goons got into any trouble PL would be there hand in feet to help.
Let's face it, PL is the best pet the Goons have ever had.
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Mimeux
Amarr THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 04:19:00 -
[514]
Originally by: Venomire What was so very different between the PL and -A- resets? The details, so elusive. Someone, please, remind me.
I just did broski.
When -A- resets someone, at least Thug has the balls to attack.
Jeez. |

Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 04:28:00 -
[515]
Originally by: Mimeux
Originally by: Moonlight Express Yes, because anyone not doing goons bidding is a **** sucking ***got that deserves no respect and their RL is open for abuse. Take note of that NC leadership and you better be good pets or youÆre next.
NC are the BEST pets and everyone knows it.
No, no. They are the best allies as long as they do what goons want. If they don't, then they are **** sucking Jew isk selling ***gots.
So PL is nutral to goons? Could have fooled me and the rest of EVE.
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Venomire
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.20 04:32:00 -
[516]
Originally by: Moonlight Express So PL is nutral to goons? Could have fooled me and the rest of EVE.
It's not that difficult fooling you. But in this case it's simply you failing to grasp the elementary concept of context clues.
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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 04:38:00 -
[517]
Edited by: Moonlight Express on 20/01/2009 04:49:29
Originally by: Venomire
Originally by: Moonlight Express So PL is neutral to goons? Could have fooled me and the rest of EVE.
It's not that difficult fooling you. But in this case it's simply you failing to grasp the elementary concept of context clues.
Wow. What a comeback. I guess I'm just not dumb enough to believe that PL and goons are neutral. Silly me. I'll just have to fail to grasp the elementary concept of bull**** a little more. Thank you sir, can I have another?
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Toffles
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.20 04:50:00 -
[518]
Originally by: Venomire Wait, we didn't. I wonder why.
PL didn't organize a joint invasion of our space with all our oldest and most "hated" enemies when they reset us. Also, AAA would take a break from killing our allies about once every 6 months to do something useful. PL, on the other hand, are some of the most consistent and reliable allies you can hope to have.
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WShatner
Minmatar Wonderfull Toys
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Posted - 2009.01.20 04:55:00 -
[519]
Edited by: WShatner on 20/01/2009 04:58:56
*resets goons* *losses cap fleet to goons* *HALP naps BoB/GBC* *continues losing towers and space* *makes emo posts about how darius hurt their feelings*
The first one applies to both AAA and PL, but the other failures can only be attributed to AAA, so there's your difference. No one has defeated PL with even numbers, but goons have defeated AAA with even numbers.
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Mimeux
Amarr THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 05:06:00 -
[520]
Originally by: WShatner Edited by: WShatner on 20/01/2009 04:58:56
*resets goons* *losses cap fleet to goons* *HALP naps BoB/GBC* *continues losing towers and space* *makes emo posts about how darius hurt their feelings*
The first one applies to both AAA and PL, but the other failures can only be attributed to AAA, so there's your difference. No one has defeated PL with even numbers, but goons have defeated AAA with even numbers.
Hi.
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Venomire
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.20 05:09:00 -
[521]
Careful, WShatner (I am such a fan. I actually liked TekWar), your post runs the risk of being taken out of context.
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Cippalippus Primus
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.20 10:38:00 -
[522]
Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 20/01/2009 10:38:29
Originally by: Evil Thug
Uhm. I`m unable to explain all this stuff to you, because my english is still very poor. At least i will try. Playing "hello, i have no respect for anyone", and then admitting it = ok, in my book. Playing "hello, you served my alliance for 2 years, but as soon as you reset me = we will make attack on your RL persona" = NOT ok in my book.
MMORPG in my opinion (well, again) is game about the people. Its barely relevant for me, what standings do i have to those people at this moment. For example, I still respect Shamiz, for keeping up in delve, when everybody quit, or Molle, for being evil intergallactic bastard. I still respect Sesfan, for stepping up to GS leadership, when everybody just RAN, and complained about broken game. They are still the same people, despite ingame standings.
It seems, that people on another side of conflict, respect standings, not people. You are blue = "russian is appearing closer alallaa", You are giving bpo in rent, and not bending over GS ? Here is your 11 pages thread how awesome you are. You are red ? Ebayer and scum. I will repeat it once again. In real world its called diplomacy. Use people when you have to. Bash, when you are unable to control them. I found this kind of diplomacy kinda sad. But hey, its just me.
* Takes a deep breath, reminds, that this is eve-o. Who need serious posts ? Its all about spaceships, pew pew, lolnerd. Right ?
See you on the battlefield.
I understand your point, but then again, you should remember what happened when MC made their "Tortuga". Being BoB's best allies for years only made the parties even more bitter about each other. Goons are doing pretty much the same, except they're being goons and again, you shouldn't be surprised (nor care as much as you do).
As for the Isk farming thing: I don't care or believe much of it. I already told you, if people can gain real money for playing videogames, more power to them. |

YChin Mei
Caldari The All-Seeing Eye G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2009.01.20 10:52:00 -
[523]
Originally by: WShatner
*resets goons* *losses cap fleet to goons* *HALP naps BoB/GBC* *continues losing towers and space* *makes emo posts about how darius hurt their feelings*
The first one applies to both AAA and PL, but the other failures can only be attributed to AAA, so there's your difference. No one has defeated PL with even numbers, but goons have defeated AAA with even numbers.
I found that violet thingy quite useful. When you see this colour, you can just automatically ignore the post, and continue reading the next. I dont even know what the hell did i quote...
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Curse YourFaith
Amarr THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 10:55:00 -
[524]
Originally by: WShatner
*resets goons* *losses cap fleet to goons* *HALP naps BoB/GBC* *continues losing towers and space* *makes emo posts about how darius hurt their feelings*
The first one applies to both AAA and PL, but the other failures can only be attributed to AAA, so there's your difference. No one has defeated PL with even numbers, but goons have defeated AAA with even numbers.
Confirming it looks way more important in violet
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Don ZOLA
Caldari Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2009.01.20 11:02:00 -
[525]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Uhm. I`m unable to explain all this stuff to you, because my english is still very poor. At least i will try. Playing "hello, i have no respect for anyone", and then admitting it = ok, in my book. Playing "hello, you served my alliance for 2 years, but as soon as you reset me = we will make attack on your RL persona" = NOT ok in my book.
MMORPG in my opinion (well, again) is game about the people. Its barely relevant for me, what standings do i have to those people at this moment. For example, I still respect Shamiz, for keeping up in delve, when everybody quit, or Molle, for being evil intergallactic bastard. I still respect Sesfan, for stepping up to GS leadership, when everybody just RAN, and complained about broken game. They are still the same people, despite ingame standings.
It seems, that people on another side of conflict, respect standings, not people. You are blue = "russian is appearing closer alallaa", You are giving bpo in rent, and not bending over GS ? Here is your 11 pages thread how awesome you are. You are red ? Ebayer and scum. I will repeat it once again. In real world its called diplomacy. Use people when you have to. Bash, when you are unable to control them. I found this kind of diplomacy kinda sad. But hey, its just me.
* Takes a deep breath, reminds, that this is eve-o. Who need serious posts ? Its all about spaceships, pew pew, lolnerd. Right ?
See you on the battlefield.
Tbh isnt that the same with BOB, just the other way around? While you were red to them you were ebayers etc, now you are brosefs. Pretty same pattern imho.
While i personally dont care much about your and goons (or any other entity) standing, i still find it very low that you allied with bob after everything your two sides went trough and after "dancing on their grave" statement.
When BOB went north and you didnt attack their space in start i thought " ET is mad homo he wants 1vs1 against BOB" no matter how hard that would be to get without GBC and your side allies interfering. Thou soon i realised it must have been something else, some NAP as a introduction to being allied.
Soon enough BOB members started sucking up to their russian brosefs on boards and i was sure whats coming up :D.
And tbh that got me kinda dissapointed in my russian brosefs, its not their style to turn around like that and ally biggest enemies.
Anyway lets see what the time brings, hopefully some major alliances will die on both sides and pacts will die with them aswell. |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.20 11:43:00 -
[526]
Edited by: Fred0 on 20/01/2009 11:44:10
Originally by: Evil Thug Use people when you have to. Bash, when you are unable to control them. I found this kind of diplomacy kinda sad. But hey, its just me.
Well that's how it works. Seen this thousands of times. Bitter enemies become brosefs easily. Remember when you jumped into the BOB gatecamp that had rf'd your baby MS during the ISS (you snuck a builder corp in there iirc) days.
I had 4 bob members telling me how much they hated you and that bob leadership had sworn never to fly with AAA but exterminate you because you were EVE's biggest metagamer and ebayer. And that seemed like a minor thing to me. Anyways, these crusades pop up now and again, for good and bad reasons, and it's mostly good imho. Playing EVE in a world where nobody cares and nothing matters would hardly motivate us to spend hours on eachothers destruction. :) |

Curse YourFaith
Amarr THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 11:58:00 -
[527]
Originally by: Don ZOLA
Tbh isnt that the same with BOB, just the other way around? While you were red to them you were ebayers etc, now you are brosefs. Pretty same pattern imho.
While i personally dont care much about your and goons (or any other entity) standing, i still find it very low that you allied with bob after everything your two sides went trough and after "dancing on their grave" statement.
When BOB went north and you didnt attack their space in start i thought " ET is mad homo he wants 1vs1 against BOB" no matter how hard that would be to get without GBC and your side allies interfering. Thou soon i realised it must have been something else, some NAP as a introduction to being allied.
Soon enough BOB members started sucking up to their russian brosefs on boards and i was sure whats coming up :D.
And tbh that got me kinda dissapointed in my russian brosefs, its not their style to turn around like that and ally biggest enemies.
Anyway lets see what the time brings, hopefully some major alliances will die on both sides and pacts will die with them aswell.
Old trolling is old |

Curse YourFaith
Amarr THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 12:00:00 -
[528]
Originally by: Fred0
Well that's how it works. Seen this thousands of times. Bitter enemies become brosefs easily. Remember when you jumped into the BOB gatecamp that had rf'd your baby MS during the ISS (you snuck a builder corp in there iirc) days.
I had 4 bob members telling me how much they hated you and that bob leadership had sworn never to fly with AAA but exterminate you because you were EVE's biggest metagamer and ebayer. And that seemed like a minor thing to me. Anyways, these crusades pop up now and again, for good and bad reasons, and it's mostly good imho. Playing EVE in a world where nobody cares and nothing matters would hardly motivate us to spend hours on eachothers destruction. :)
Fred0 i care for you *hug* |

Don ZOLA
Caldari Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2009.01.20 12:01:00 -
[529]
Originally by: Curse YourFaith
Originally by: Don ZOLA
Tbh isnt that the same with BOB, just the other way around? While you were red to them you were ebayers etc, now you are brosefs. Pretty same pattern imho.
While i personally dont care much about your and goons (or any other entity) standing, i still find it very low that you allied with bob after everything your two sides went trough and after "dancing on their grave" statement.
When BOB went north and you didnt attack their space in start i thought " ET is mad homo he wants 1vs1 against BOB" no matter how hard that would be to get without GBC and your side allies interfering. Thou soon i realised it must have been something else, some NAP as a introduction to being allied.
Soon enough BOB members started sucking up to their russian brosefs on boards and i was sure whats coming up :D.
And tbh that got me kinda dissapointed in my russian brosefs, its not their style to turn around like that and ally biggest enemies.
Anyway lets see what the time brings, hopefully some major alliances will die on both sides and pacts will die with them aswell.
Old trolling is old
its not troll, move your coloured letters away form my posts alt. |

Curse YourFaith
Amarr THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 12:04:00 -
[530]
Originally by: Don ZOLA
its not troll, move your coloured letters away form my posts alt.
I lol'd |
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Das Panzer
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.01.20 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Petar Quaresma I'll give you a little tip, Evil Thug. Most of Goonfleet wondered where the hell you guys were during most of our previous campaigns because you were AWOL from actual fighting. Another big part of GF expected you to attack us sooner, because you were either too weak, scared or whatever to fight your stated enemies of the time and, eh, why not fight us? If you think we're going to respect you because you invented a war to support your isk selling best friend's efforts to farm plexes and moons then you're dead wrong (and you look like a woman).
Go ask the old school Goons where -A- was during RedSwarmFed attack on Fayth and they will tell you that -A- and IAC where attacking Querious to keep MC and various Bob pets occupied, but hey man just keep this goin it only underlines how dumb you are.
And nobody cares who you respect, really... |

tzu'nami
Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.20 12:51:00 -
[532]
Seems i keep repeating myself . Missed all the fun again , always in the wrong place at the wrong time . This has to end  |

Evil Thug
Minmatar Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.01.20 12:52:00 -
[533]
Originally by: Don ZOLA
When BOB went north and you didnt attack their space in start i thought " ET is mad homo he wants 1vs1 against BOB" no matter how hard that would be to get without GBC and your side allies interfering. Thou soon i realised it must have been something else, some NAP as a introduction to being allied.
I`m not sure, will you beleive me or not. We havent had territory nap with bob. I, however, had reasons to not help in bob conflict. Here is my POV on this story. When NC came to catch, it was intresting struggle, but then our numerical advantage started to pay off. So NC had to ask help from BoB. I was counting on that, and that was my plan. I asked for help from RA, and help was given. We started to play "I like to move it" game, and BoB started to lose numbers. Its hard to protect 2 constellation, 30 jumps each from other. So, eventually BoB gave up, and decide to leave all their southern territories.
Aaaaand intresting stuff begins ! Slicing territories ! Who will receive what. I was invited in teamspeak channel, where ceo's of 2 core RA corps - RuSH and RN, said, that RA will be LEAVING catch, because they have to claim RIT triangle for RN, and ZS- stuff for RuSH. When i tried to argue, that "guys, if aAa will fold in catch, you will be claiming Jita", i relatively fast understood, that its solved already. I went to Sesfan, explained situation, and he promised those constellation without need to fight for them for RA. Basicly goons did tower killing, and RA just planted towers.
I entirely changed my approach to the game, after this accident. I understood, that in "We are shiny knights, lets slay big evil BoB dragon" approach, i`m pretty much alone. So, i simply stopped to care. We had to finish catch campaign, tho. Last drop in this ocean of my tears, was staying online till 04.00am to time stront on poses. Still, we had to hold on, and we did it. Fortune favoured us - killing titan - have been real gift.
After catch stuff, i stopped playing eve. I logged in to switch skills, and i was observing situation in querious \ fountain \ delve. I was expecting failure in delve attack. To bring down bob, coalition had to invite RA + aAa hardcore division. But coalition leaders cared about tortuga, ra - about dysprosium, aAa - about blood elf mages 
Originally by: Don ZOLA
And tbh that got me kinda dissapointed in my russian brosefs, its not their style to turn around like that and ally biggest enemies.
Explained my point ^^
Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 20/01/2009 11:44:10 Anyways, these crusades pop up now and again, for good and bad reasons, and it's mostly good imho. Playing EVE in a world where nobody cares and nothing matters would hardly motivate us to spend hours on eachothers destruction. :)
Its not crusade for me, Fred0. I dont think that i will be to expirience those emotions from game again, to make it crusade. Dont know, is it good thing or not. |

Don ZOLA
Caldari Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2009.01.20 13:24:00 -
[534]
Originally by: Evil Thug
I believe you, that was the main reason coalition failed, unfortunately they didnt have unified leadership, everyone did his own stuff and it all crumbled :)
So i can understand that POV, but still dunno what would have to happen to make me ally my worst opponent. Thats something i really cant understand, especially after years of bs BOB smacktalked to Russians. Hope you will get rid of them fast 
Recruiting! :) |

Shadoo
Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.20 13:30:00 -
[535]
Originally by: Mimeux
Originally by: Venomire Yes, because we reacted the same way when PL reset us.
That was a fake reset and everyone knows it. PL would never hotdrop a Goon cap or shoot at any Goon whatsoever if they had a choice.
Actually, PL has hotdropped Goonfleet caps when they were neutral and killed their silos/miners/towers near Geminate. Goon leadership always understood that in this game you can be neutral and shoot each others without having to go on some kinda of crusade and never agree to shoot common targets again. TWR of course is full of pitchforks, but... 
Originally by: WShatner
No one has defeated PL with even numbers, but goons have defeated AAA with even numbers.
I know you're just a GBC troll trying to get people to hate PL and attack us, but this kinda statement goes a bit far even for you.
I can remember many fights we have lost on even numbers against BoB, -A-, SOLAR and Morsus Mihi.
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Dastycakes
Caldari THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 14:29:00 -
[536]
Well i for one fought in a very bitter campaign against IRC, ED, XXlegion of stuffXX and Solar back in drone lands for almost a year. All the smack we did in local and trash talk on the forums, i still respect those entitys. I probably spend more time talking to my former/current enemys than i do my own alliance on a daily basis. Its internet spaceships, we fight with pixels over pixels. The people behind it are real and that is the most important thing we all have to remember. There is no difference between a TCF or BOB or goon or NC pilot, we are all ******s paying money to play internet spaceships instead of riding bikes and making out with girls 
I role play Ewok |

Liranan
Gallente M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2009.01.20 14:42:00 -
[537]
Originally by: Dastycakes we are all ******s paying money to play internet spaceships instead of riding bikes and making out with girls 
Speak for yourself senior! I made out with my girl not five minutes ago. She ran up to me wagging her tale looking really happy so I took immediate advantage of that. Also while I love riding bikes cycling where I am is suicide. |

CAOD Warrior
Amarr THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 15:08:00 -
[538]
Originally by: Liranan
Originally by: Dastycakes we are all ******s paying money to play internet spaceships instead of riding bikes and making out with girls 
Speak for yourself senior! I made out with my girl not five minutes ago. She ran up to me wagging her tale looking really happy so I took immediate advantage of that. Also while I love riding bikes cycling where I am is suicide.
Sure you did, fatty.  |

Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.01.20 16:03:00 -
[539]
Originally by: Don ZOLA
Tbh isnt that the same with BOB, just the other way around? While you were red to them you were ebayers etc, now you are brosefs. Pretty same pattern imho.
While i personally dont care much about your and goons (or any other entity) standing, i still find it very low that you allied with bob after everything your two sides went trough and after "dancing on their grave" statement.
When BOB went north and you didnt attack their space in start i thought " ET is mad homo he wants 1vs1 against BOB" no matter how hard that would be to get without GBC and your side allies interfering. Thou soon i realised it must have been something else, some NAP as a introduction to being allied.
Soon enough BOB members started sucking up to their russian brosefs on boards and i was sure whats coming up :D.
And tbh that got me kinda dissapointed in my russian brosefs, its not their style to turn around like that and ally biggest enemies.
Anyway lets see what the time brings, hopefully some major alliances will die on both sides and pacts will die with them aswell.
Why is it OK for one side to form a coalition with statements like æenemy of enemy is a friendÆ, but not the other? BoB did nothing to coerced AAA and goon war. Goons did that all on their own.
As for bitter enemies, I for one had no love for RAT and IÆm sure the feeling is/was mutual. However, I always had the respect for how innovative and resourceful ET & RAT were from years of fighting against them. That respect can very easily be transformed to cooperation and maybe even a long time friendship. After all, AAA plays the game the same way BoB does and we are not so bull headed and bitter that we canÆt get past our differences. Then again, I would not expect you to understand that, Don. You are as bitter as it gets.
The truth will set you free
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Omeega
Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.01.20 16:06:00 -
[540]
He's not.
But he's rather disapointing in the whole "i-want-bob-dead-but-i-don't-want-to-do-it-myself" attitude.
bah, Zola's still a very good chap, and his posting is very polite ;-)
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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