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Droidster
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Posted - 2004.07.10 19:24:00 -
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I operate in an area that has been having a problem with an ex-killer clown who is terrorizing local newbies and low-level miners from a station in .4 space. He flies solo in a Megathron equipped with missiles and 425 railguns.
Is there any way for a group of newbies to get rid of this guy? The best ships we can probably muster are Tristans, Vexors and maybe a Thorax or two.
One of the problems is that if dozen frigates suddenly show up he will flee. If we warp disrupt him he will focus on destroying the jamming frigate(s) with missiles and then flee.
Thanks for any help, and please be as specific as possible (I know little about combat).
_____________________________________________ I am motivated by various things, mostly ISK. |

Droidster
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Posted - 2004.07.10 19:24:00 -
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I operate in an area that has been having a problem with an ex-killer clown who is terrorizing local newbies and low-level miners from a station in .4 space. He flies solo in a Megathron equipped with missiles and 425 railguns.
Is there any way for a group of newbies to get rid of this guy? The best ships we can probably muster are Tristans, Vexors and maybe a Thorax or two.
One of the problems is that if dozen frigates suddenly show up he will flee. If we warp disrupt him he will focus on destroying the jamming frigate(s) with missiles and then flee.
Thanks for any help, and please be as specific as possible (I know little about combat).
_____________________________________________ I am motivated by various things, mostly ISK. |

Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2004.07.10 19:44:00 -
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Whats his security status and what system does he terrorize in?
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate . <Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market? <Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |

Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2004.07.10 19:44:00 -
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Whats his security status and what system does he terrorize in?
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate . <Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market? <Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |

Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.10 19:58:00 -
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I suggest as many kestrels as you can get.
Everyone with Rockets, MWD, Warp Scrambler, and Webber, and then cap relays in the lows. If every frig is webbing/scrambling he stands no chance and he will blow up pretty quickly with all those rockets flying at hi, you could also fit it with light missiles if you want. ................. |

Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.10 19:58:00 -
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I suggest as many kestrels as you can get.
Everyone with Rockets, MWD, Warp Scrambler, and Webber, and then cap relays in the lows. If every frig is webbing/scrambling he stands no chance and he will blow up pretty quickly with all those rockets flying at hi, you could also fit it with light missiles if you want. ................. |

TWD
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Posted - 2004.07.10 19:58:00 -
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Edited by: TWD on 10/07/2004 20:04:07 Use 2 griffins with a MWD and 3 magnometric +6 racial jammers. keep them at a good range at all time, outside drone range (25km+) from the Megathron. that will jam him.
Equip the rest of the frigs with a MWD (+maybe afterburner) and a scrambler and 1 or 2 frigs with a web. try to get the speed of these frigs at 2000+ m/s, and orbit the battleship at 5km or less.. that will outrun missiles/FoFs.
his only defence will be drones and smartbombs.
if he has smartbombs, orbit him at 5km with the frigs with the MWD on. if he deploys drones, concentrate on taking out the drones.. this will take some practise, you could use a thorax with drones to practise with. if the drones are attacking a frig, warp straight out to a close object and warp back.
a tactic against drones is to move outside drone range (about 25km) when he deploys drones, and after you made an aggression. the drones will target 1 person and move towards it, keep the drones at 25km distance with that person and move in close with the other frigs, they wont get shot by the drones. at least this worked for us. will take alot of practice too.
Good luck. |

TWD
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Posted - 2004.07.10 19:58:00 -
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Edited by: TWD on 10/07/2004 20:04:07 Use 2 griffins with a MWD and 3 magnometric +6 racial jammers. keep them at a good range at all time, outside drone range (25km+) from the Megathron. that will jam him.
Equip the rest of the frigs with a MWD (+maybe afterburner) and a scrambler and 1 or 2 frigs with a web. try to get the speed of these frigs at 2000+ m/s, and orbit the battleship at 5km or less.. that will outrun missiles/FoFs.
his only defence will be drones and smartbombs.
if he has smartbombs, orbit him at 5km with the frigs with the MWD on. if he deploys drones, concentrate on taking out the drones.. this will take some practise, you could use a thorax with drones to practise with. if the drones are attacking a frig, warp straight out to a close object and warp back.
a tactic against drones is to move outside drone range (about 25km) when he deploys drones, and after you made an aggression. the drones will target 1 person and move towards it, keep the drones at 25km distance with that person and move in close with the other frigs, they wont get shot by the drones. at least this worked for us. will take alot of practice too.
Good luck. |

Gabriel BriGGs
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Posted - 2004.07.10 20:00:00 -
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heh.. we have the same problem actually. have one guy bein a bit of an a$$, not sure if hes realyl terrorizing sanyone yet.. but then ther eis a.. well noob pirate corp it looks like maybe setting up camp near our .5 hq system.. maybe waiting for lab slots or something.. intimidating othe rplayers. -------------------------------------------- I've had the same Gurista Imputor on my tail for the past 16 systems..
2004.08.16 21:38:37 - Combat: Your 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Blood Sage, wrecking for 324.9 damage.
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Gabriel BriGGs
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Posted - 2004.07.10 20:00:00 -
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heh.. we have the same problem actually. have one guy bein a bit of an a$$, not sure if hes realyl terrorizing sanyone yet.. but then ther eis a.. well noob pirate corp it looks like maybe setting up camp near our .5 hq system.. maybe waiting for lab slots or something.. intimidating othe rplayers. -------------------------------------------- I've had the same Gurista Imputor on my tail for the past 16 systems..
2004.08.16 21:38:37 - Combat: Your 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Blood Sage, wrecking for 324.9 damage.
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Dyring
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Posted - 2004.07.10 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Dyring on 10/07/2004 20:05:11 If you know the ship he¦s flying, eq a cruiser with race specifik jammers against it, jam him back to the stoneage. the jammer wont be able to get past his defences alone ofcourse, but 3 decent cruisers should be able to. and ofcourse, once he is jammed, everyone you got can join in.
In a mega he prolly wont be able to kill the jammer with F.o.f¦s(a cruiser can tank 2 launchers with fof¦s long enough), althogh drones might be a problem. However, if you use racespecifik jammers you should have midslots enough left to make a blackbird a somewhat decent tank atleast.
Other cruisers would work too ofcourse, since you only need 2 midslots if I remember right(race jammers got strength 8 right? or was it only 6? not ingame now, can¦t check).
Would be though to carry off, but if you work together it might work.
//dyring
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Dyring
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Posted - 2004.07.10 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Dyring on 10/07/2004 20:05:11 If you know the ship he¦s flying, eq a cruiser with race specifik jammers against it, jam him back to the stoneage. the jammer wont be able to get past his defences alone ofcourse, but 3 decent cruisers should be able to. and ofcourse, once he is jammed, everyone you got can join in.
In a mega he prolly wont be able to kill the jammer with F.o.f¦s(a cruiser can tank 2 launchers with fof¦s long enough), althogh drones might be a problem. However, if you use racespecifik jammers you should have midslots enough left to make a blackbird a somewhat decent tank atleast.
Other cruisers would work too ofcourse, since you only need 2 midslots if I remember right(race jammers got strength 8 right? or was it only 6? not ingame now, can¦t check).
Would be though to carry off, but if you work together it might work.
//dyring
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Angelhunter
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Posted - 2004.07.10 20:04:00 -
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Eve-mail me the guys name and Systems he likes to frequent. --------------- |

Angelhunter
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Posted - 2004.07.10 20:04:00 -
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Eve-mail me the guys name and Systems he likes to frequent. --------------- |

Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2004.07.10 20:17:00 -
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if ya crazy, use de thoarx ta jam, and throw a mob of EM/Kin drones at him frigs hold him/her from runnin accept dere will be "ahem" losses but dem clowns were nothin but petty crooks, you rally up, make it so he cant get any cheap ganks, he'll move on
------------------------------------------------ Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly - the ill deeds, along with the good - and let me be judged accordingly.
If this world was supposed to be friendly CCP wouldnt have wasted time paying the devs to code so many weapons |

Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2004.07.10 20:17:00 -
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if ya crazy, use de thoarx ta jam, and throw a mob of EM/Kin drones at him frigs hold him/her from runnin accept dere will be "ahem" losses but dem clowns were nothin but petty crooks, you rally up, make it so he cant get any cheap ganks, he'll move on
------------------------------------------------ Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly - the ill deeds, along with the good - and let me be judged accordingly.
If this world was supposed to be friendly CCP wouldnt have wasted time paying the devs to code so many weapons |

Zell
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Posted - 2004.07.10 21:45:00 -
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dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.....
Zell Black Raptors "A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.." |

Zell
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Posted - 2004.07.10 21:45:00 -
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dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.....
Zell Black Raptors "A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.." |

Phoenus
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Posted - 2004.07.10 22:09:00 -
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Convo me the name and system he "terrorises". 
Phoenus Enlightened Incorporated |

Phoenus
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Posted - 2004.07.10 22:09:00 -
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Convo me the name and system he "terrorises". 
Phoenus Enlightened Incorporated |

killswitch
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Posted - 2004.07.10 22:37:00 -
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lol, sounds like me, this guy rather
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killswitch
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Posted - 2004.07.10 22:37:00 -
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lol, sounds like me, this guy rather
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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2004.07.10 22:37:00 -
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Another Blackbird alternative, of course, would be to just have the jamming blackbird spam out defender missiles. They work well enough that few, if any, of the megathrons FOF missiles should get through.
Keep in mind, though, that you want to have your catcher frigates warp scramble him before you jam him. Otherwise he'll just warp away.
There's no meaning to life when you cling only to common sense |

Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2004.07.10 22:37:00 -
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Another Blackbird alternative, of course, would be to just have the jamming blackbird spam out defender missiles. They work well enough that few, if any, of the megathrons FOF missiles should get through.
Keep in mind, though, that you want to have your catcher frigates warp scramble him before you jam him. Otherwise he'll just warp away.
There's no meaning to life when you cling only to common sense |

Strikeclone
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Posted - 2004.07.10 23:14:00 -
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take out a contract on this guy with any reputable corp such as Reikoku...of which i am a member.
talk ingame to Lion el'johnson or DBpreacher.
then he will get some loving on your behalf Admiral Strikeclone CinC, Caldari Assault Group "Peace through the application of superior firepower"
C.A.G. website http://bosie.proboards40.com/ |

Strikeclone
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Posted - 2004.07.10 23:14:00 -
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take out a contract on this guy with any reputable corp such as Reikoku...of which i am a member.
talk ingame to Lion el'johnson or DBpreacher.
then he will get some loving on your behalf Admiral Strikeclone CinC, Caldari Assault Group "Peace through the application of superior firepower"
C.A.G. website http://bosie.proboards40.com/ |

Booky
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Posted - 2004.07.11 01:39:00 -
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If he is a outlaw (-5.1 or lower) then evemail me the system and I will take pleasure in the fight that will come. Oh and if this is in Caldari space, the Navy will sponser my mission im sure  Spelling corrections welcome, but don't expect me to edit my post. |

Booky
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Posted - 2004.07.11 01:39:00 -
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If he is a outlaw (-5.1 or lower) then evemail me the system and I will take pleasure in the fight that will come. Oh and if this is in Caldari space, the Navy will sponser my mission im sure  Spelling corrections welcome, but don't expect me to edit my post. |

Eddie Gordo
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Posted - 2004.07.11 02:19:00 -
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post patch a lone battleship can very easily tank out 5 cruisers, I had an engagement with 2x blackbirds, a caracal and 2x thorax's VS my typhoon. I was jammed the whole time and just let my drones and fof do the work for me. However I did have 4 missile bays available.
A megathron only has 2, so once you get rid of his drones he isnt gonna be much of a threat (even if you lack the power to take him out there and then you could always hold him and wait for more backup....which would be even more embarassing for him!!)
That being said, Killer clowns were an awsome group of pvp'ers. Veteren pirates do not often fall into traps that involve multiple enemies.
Instas??
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Eddie Gordo
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Posted - 2004.07.11 02:19:00 -
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post patch a lone battleship can very easily tank out 5 cruisers, I had an engagement with 2x blackbirds, a caracal and 2x thorax's VS my typhoon. I was jammed the whole time and just let my drones and fof do the work for me. However I did have 4 missile bays available.
A megathron only has 2, so once you get rid of his drones he isnt gonna be much of a threat (even if you lack the power to take him out there and then you could always hold him and wait for more backup....which would be even more embarassing for him!!)
That being said, Killer clowns were an awsome group of pvp'ers. Veteren pirates do not often fall into traps that involve multiple enemies.
Instas??
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