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Le Poupon
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.26 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: MirrorGod -Garmon is if I remember right, an 18year old Welsh/UK. -While he is known to scream on vent ala Evil Thug style, so am I. He's quite refined and holds a hell of an intelligent conversation -Absolutely none of the assets he has ingame, including his monthly slave sets (which he suicides with on 0.0 roams) are bought with GTC money, he litterally generates the ISK through valid ingame non-grind methods) -He knows how to get in your head. His local trolls aren't just-for-lulz. They get you angry, emotional, and make you want him dead. One million times over he's tricked so-called "elite" pvp'rs into hillarious losses because they get so passionate about what he has to say about them in an internet space ship game. -He does the same thing to C&P, and before it became copy-pasta cancer, it was the best thing on these forums. Still is, to some exent. -The gank-rupture fit, the one that has dozens of threads on eve-o and top-rated on Battleclinic. Garmon invented it. (and moreover popularized it's abilities proving how easy it was to kill nanos/recons pre-QR) -He is, in my opinion, the embodiment of the dying-breed solo-pirate. Any l33t pirate can come in here spewing stats because they camp gates and run around in 10+ BS/CS gangs with double falcons. But ask them if they're willing to jump a navy mega into a 10 man gatecamp three times a week.
In conclusion, all the smacktalk you're spewing is in vein, at best, and genos/heretics are trolling you. I seriously hope the measure taken by GM's is reconsidered, as eve itself is losing not only a pilot but an idea, controversial as it is. 
The game is good. That doesn't mean its invincible. Everyone will have their ideas about there perceptions.
Before this gets locked i would like to justify that this is not to talk about Mod or GM actions.
The quote is the cause of a thought. Not many people can doubt a certain welshman is a great PVPer. But with the age of things comeing (blobs and such) is his kind a dying breed.
Solo piracy is what attracted me to this game. I havn't really done it. I do love the game but i think the crying and the pro carebear changes are a dark tide for things.
I guess its very difficult for the hard working guys to regulate and its difficult for us players to judge, but people do get upset in this game and in a game that relys so much on competition that is very difficult to avoid.
The whole idea of smack talk is unavoidable, either as a form of mental combat or as a form of hate for something that happend. I'm not saying either of these are acceptable but its clearly going to happen.
So i'd like to ask you guys that pirate. What do you feel to the current perspective of smack?
I'm leaving this open from here on out.
Tear up the thread lady's and gents -------sig------------------------------------ Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal |

William DeMeo
Gallente Genos Occidere Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.11.26 21:44:00 -
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Just for the record, FS****sucks. Yarr |

Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.11.26 21:46:00 -
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smack owns, if you can't handle it you're playing the wrong game.
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BallistaII
Genos Occidere Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.11.26 21:49:00 -
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join genos if u want quality solo/small-gang pvp imo
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Exzor
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Posted - 2008.11.26 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: BallistaII join genos if u want quality solo/small-gang pvp imo
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.11.26 21:54:00 -
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it's psychological warfare meets 4chan, to be honest - and through in through, it's not only effective, but outright lulz.
Heretic Nation's piracy code dicates a no-smacktalk policy - which arguably I encouraged people to trample all over when I met Garmon -- but the reason for it remains the same - mutual respect between fellow pirates and pvp'rs. I maintain that with most people when I'm chatting, I mean, if you get me serious, i a private convo, I like to think I'm intelligent and maybe even pleasant to talk to. But on the battlefield, why hold any bars? You don't have to make RL threats to get someone angry, but why not act like a 14year old german rage-child if it means somem hilarity and killing a vagabond with a ferox?
Bottom line, for me, I guess, is that I like to think that eve is THE no-holds-barred game. That is, it's a sandbox where I can, to a reasonable (shrinking?) extent, scam, extort, kill and manipulate other players freely without fear of moderator intervention, as long as a certain set of prerequisite rules are met.
No, I don't believe garmon did anything vioating the EULA, unless perhaps it was nerft along with everything else in the QR patch? [center]
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BallistaII
Genos Occidere Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.11.26 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: MirrorGod No, I don't believe garmon did anything vioating the EULA, unless perhaps it was nerft along with everything else in the QR patch?
dev response needed: is trolling local stealth-nerfed post patch?
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Haitchi Allamut
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.11.26 22:30:00 -
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Not this bloody circus again...
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Faekurias
Black Legion Command Black Legion.
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Posted - 2008.11.26 22:31:00 -
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I didn't read the OP but I MUST SAY THAT I RESENT YOUR SHENANIGANS.
I despise this assumption! ------------------ Recruiting..
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Sans Honore
Gallente Miskatonic Exploration Group LTD
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Posted - 2008.11.26 22:43:00 -
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As much as I personally despise smack, this man speaks the truth.
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon smack owns, if you can't handle it you're playing the wrong game.
It can also be said for any game. If you can't take smack, stay out of any multi-player environment.
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Le Poupon
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.26 22:45:00 -
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Oh but i worked so hard on it...
Fine or all you people that prefer pictures a sum up.
Smack talk is inevitable in the atmosphere of the game Agree/disagree
Smack victims should toughen up agree/disagree
Smackers are ****wits agree/disagree
Garmon Agree/disagree -------sig------------------------------------ Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal |

CHED
Genos Occidere Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.11.26 22:53:00 -
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I believe a fair amount of my kills come from acting like a 14 year old ******, the lols you get from local are great, and so are some of the kills, my bio for example I changed it 2 days ago and people seam to treat me as a nub straight away, that mixed with a ******ed ship name and some good smack about how good I am in local works wonders.
Risk a ship, go small gang, go solo, go act like a tard (go garmon????).
/14 year old 'fanboi' imo n1n1n1
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Plim
Gallente Oursulaert Technology Institute
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Posted - 2008.11.26 22:58:00 -
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EVE is a game for adults, not angry 15 year olds.
CCP makes the rules on such things quite simple. If you continously act like an ******** to the rest of the community, in violation of the rules they set down, you get banned.
Fin.
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Le Poupon
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.26 23:03:00 -
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Fair point and i as i said i do not dispute the current state of things
What I'm suggesting is that in the atmosphere this game is set in its impossible not to face smack. Even in the heat of the moment when the adrenaline is pumping your going to say some ****.
Besides that when you face a combat situation smack is an amazing weapon and fights do get very intense in this game. Its a game about those 1% differences and that lack of balance in an opponent can make all the difference -------sig------------------------------------ Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal |

MirrorGod
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.11.26 23:04:00 -
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KGOIN
Smack talk is inevitable in the atmosphere of the game absolutely. I'd like more of it siphoned to my inbox please
Smack victims should toughen up Smack talk 'victims' should refain from getting emotional about what someone said about them through an internet spaceship game. If you can't do this atleast, you've already lost the game. If you can, enter a game of wits (god forbid) where you decipher if your opponent is mentally inept or clever, emotional or calm. This speaks volumes to how they'll act in combat, and can be a valuable asset.
Smackers are ****wits The true nitwit is the guy that gets trolled sideways.
Garmon Just some guy who plays internet spaceships who people like to make threads about. Agree/disagree [center]
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Kachak
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.11.26 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Plim EVE is a game for adults, not angry 15 year olds.
CCP makes the rules on such things quite simple. If you continously act like an ******** to the rest of the community, in violation of the rules they set down, you get banned.
Fin.
U DONT GET IT AT ALL DO U
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Xori Ruscuv
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Posted - 2008.11.26 23:06:00 -
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Yeah, so Eve is less one social engineer.
Why do people hero-worship guys like this when there are truly remarkable PVPers like Kaileen Starsong flying?
*shrug*
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CHED
Genos Occidere Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.11.26 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Xori Ruscuv Yeah, so Eve is less one social engineer.
Why do people hero-worship guys like this when there are truly remarkable PVPers like Kaileen Starsong flying?
*shrug*
but but, kaileen doesnt have halerious local chats!
and tbh Kaileen and Garm are similar in their matari ways have you fought or flown with Garmon?
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Plim
Gallente Oursulaert Technology Institute
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Posted - 2008.11.26 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kachak
Originally by: Plim EVE is a game for adults, not angry 15 year olds.
CCP makes the rules on such things quite simple. If you continously act like an ******** to the rest of the community, in violation of the rules they set down, you get banned.
Fin.
U DONT GET IT AT ALL DO U
No.
I like to play the game like i'm not a 15 year old with ADHD. I'm one of those old fashioned players who thinks the best way to kill your enemy is to STFU and shoot them until they die 
That is unless i'm talking to Kinsy, in which case it is my duty to insult him in the most elaborate ways I can find.
---- Failing to understand your crazy epicycles since 2003. |

Pax Scindus
Gallente Caldari Deep Space Ventures Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.27 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Plim
Originally by: Kachak
Originally by: Plim EVE is a game for adults, not angry 15 year olds.
CCP makes the rules on such things quite simple. If you continously act like an ******** to the rest of the community, in violation of the rules they set down, you get banned.
Fin.
U DONT GET IT AT ALL DO U
No.
I like to play the game like i'm not a 15 year old with ADHD. I'm one of those old fashioned players who thinks the best way to kill your enemy is to STFU and shoot them until they die 
That is unless i'm talking to Kinsy, in which case it is my duty to insult him in the most elaborate ways I can find.
+1 ----------------------------------------- Pax de magnus vis vires e solum via. Without strength, there can be no peace.
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Jim Hazard
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Posted - 2008.11.27 02:45:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Hazard on 27/11/2008 02:46:32
No1 is ever going to freak out because of a little smack, but some ppl like garmon just go to far. Surely you can force people to make mistakes when you upset them, but you should do it in a civilized manner.
It does not matter to me if someone says to me "your father is your brother" and stuff like that in RL or in a spaceship game. When some nerd hiding behind his PC thinks he can say whatever he wants, because no1 can really harm him in that situation, it just makes it even worse.
In RL i would punch someone talking to me like that right into the face (and no.. this is not a targeted RL threat). Treat your targets with respects, making jokes and everything is fine, but do not do it on the level of 10 year olds.
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William DeMeo
Gallente Genos Occidere Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.11.27 06:52:00 -
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Edited by: William DeMeo on 27/11/2008 06:51:52 THE CHURCH GETS ****ED OFF BY SMACK BECAUSE IT REMINDS THEM TOO MUCH OF WHEN THEY WERE IN GRADE SCHOOL.
AND WERE BULLIED.
BY ME.
C/D? Yarr |

William DeMeo
Gallente Genos Occidere Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.11.27 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Hazard Edited by: Jim Hazard on 27/11/2008 02:46:32
No1 is ever going to freak out because of a little smack, but some ppl like garmon just go to far. Surely you can force people to make mistakes when you upset them, but you should do it in a civilized manner.
It does not matter to me if someone says to me "your father is your brother" and stuff like that in RL or in a spaceship game. When some nerd hiding behind his PC thinks he can say whatever he wants, because no1 can really harm him in that situation, it just makes it even worse.
In RL i would punch someone talking to me like that right into the face (and no.. this is not a targeted RL threat). Treat your targets with respects, making jokes and everything is fine, but do not do it on the level of 10 year olds.
ye e-respekt m8z or i punch u. Yarr |

Stinky McPoopyPants
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.27 07:59:00 -
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********* *** ***** The batteries in your new TI-X30 calculator are capable of recharging by themselves. Do not attempt to replace them. Most importantly, how are you supposed to tell whether this is part of my post or |

Per Kopfhurer
Filthy Scum
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Posted - 2008.11.27 08:54:00 -
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Edited by: Per Kopfhurer on 27/11/2008 08:53:56 I, for one, welcome our new Threadnought overlords.
Heretic Nation are the new forum Goon C/D?
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Le Poupon
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.27 09:20:00 -
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Just to clarify neither my cowardly self or the main i am a cowardly alt of is related to Heretic or FS -------sig------------------------------------ Sig removed, you made us cry |

William DeMeo
Gallente Genos Occidere Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.11.27 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Per Kopfhurer Edited by: Per Kopfhurer on 27/11/2008 08:53:56 I, for one, welcome our new Threadnought overlords.
Heretic Nation are the new forum Goon C/D?
Nah, goons are supposed to have decent opponents. Yarr |

Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.11.27 10:06:00 -
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Bump this thread everytime FS****& HOLY still suck at PvP
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William DeMeo
Gallente Genos Occidere Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.11.27 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Bump this thread everytime FS****& HOLY still suck at PvP
confirming FSCUM/HOLY are still sucking at pvp. |

Le Poupon
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.27 12:07:00 -
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Damn,
Looks like the smackathon thread that should have been quite similar to this is kicking this threads ass.
I wonder if that answers my question?
I'd take an analytical leap of faith and say it does.
Too add a conclusion to things then; People make an understandable point about smacking being the joy of a 10 year olds mind, however most of the community will go running towards a smackfest.
Alot of players smack and its immpossible for one person to judge is a certain phrase is crossing the line. Different things affect different people.
You could turn things around and say if smacking is acting like a 10 year old then so is running and telling the teacher.
With things like merc's and war decs and bountys the game gives everyone an opportunity to deal with thier own problems. So unless petitions can be fitted onto your highslots they are a bit silly in my perspective.
If the case is someone smacks and survives then they are not upsetting enough people or not upsetting people enough to have karma bite them back.
Smacking should be like making your bed, if at the end of it you can lay in it...well done.
And most of all, take care of yourselves and take care of each other....or whatever it was Jerry said.
Lock me up please guys -------sig------------------------------------ Sig removed, you made us cry |
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