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Ocih
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.11.28 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: Ocih on 28/11/2008 20:59:21
The lure to 0.0 sec is the mystery. Once the mystery is gone, it's just more gate jumping. Instead of sitting in a base, you sit under a POS bubble.
I was on Test server the other day and I had to laugh. I was moving my characters and the quickest way on test is to relocate your clone and self destruct your pod. Eve is the first game I played where I actually had to wait, to wait. Undock, right click self destruct. Wait 30 seconds to wait 2 minutes.
-constructive part- You can still get to 0.0 and find out its all an illusion. Join a pet alliance. Join a main alliance. Usually it's a matter of just doing it. Ignore everything you were told about Goonswarm being evil to the core. It's pretty much rubbish. Prefer another alliance? Most of them have diplo channels. You will be there quicker than you know. Perhaps you won't be disappointed and quit eve in a pod, broke and discouraged. If you are feeling the glass walls close in, it won't matter soon anyway. Go for it. |
Karille
Gallente
Lordless
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Posted - 2008.11.28 20:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Ocih
The lure to 0.0 sec is the mystery. Once the mystery is gone, it's just more gate jumping. Instead of sitting in a base, you sit under a POS bubble.
I was on Test server the other day and I had to laugh. I was moving my characters and the quickest way on test is to relocate your clone and self destruct your pod. Eve is the first game I played where I actually had to wait, to wait. Undock, right click self destruct. Wait 30 seconds to wait 2 minutes.
I don't know about that one. I guess you never rode the boat to wait to load the other continent so you could complete the boat ride to the other harbor.
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Sally Bestonge
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.28 21:10:00 -
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go test the waters in 0.0 npc space its really quite fun and safer then you think
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Li Fengxian
Gallente
Brothers In Scarlet
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Posted - 2008.11.28 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: Li Fengxian on 28/11/2008 21:13:02
I must admit that the politics of EVE is my main long-term draw in the game. Since we are is yet to see an Imperial instutition system in which players can seat to influence the Empire politics and organize a more active representation of the various factions and power blocs inside the game, the only place for politics to play out with any impact from PCs is naturally the 0.0 sec.
How to access it, however, is another thing altogether. Especially if you do not have a lot of skill points yet.
I am in the same boat as the OP as I have only been playing in for the last month or so. I do not see any drive from these power blocs via their pet organizations to recruit from both low and high sectors in the Recruitment Center. In fact it looks like being only invitational and "elite".
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Sally Bestonge
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.28 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Li Fengxian
Edited by: Li Fengxian on 28/11/2008 21:13:02
I must admit that the politics of EVE is my main long-term draw in the game. Since we are is yet to see an Imperial instutition system in which players can seat to influence the Empire politics and organize a more active representation of the various factions and power blocs inside the game, the only place for politics to play out with any impact from PCs is naturally the 0.0 sec.
How to access it, however, is another thing altogether. Especially if you do not have a lot of skill points yet.
I am in the same boat as the OP as I have only been playing in for the last month or so. I do not see any drive from these power blocs via their pet organizations to recruit from both low and high sectors in the Recruitment Center. In fact it looks like being only invitational and "elite".
This is mostly because you dont know how to play the game soz mate.
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Li Fengxian
Gallente
Brothers In Scarlet
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Posted - 2008.11.28 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sally Bestonge
Originally by: Li Fengxian
Edited by: Li Fengxian on 28/11/2008 21:13:02
I must admit that the politics of EVE is my main long-term draw in the game. Since we are is yet to see an Imperial instutition system in which players can seat to influence the Empire politics and organize a more active representation of the various factions and power blocs inside the game, the only place for politics to play out with any impact from PCs is naturally the 0.0 sec.
How to access it, however, is another thing altogether. Especially if you do not have a lot of skill points yet.
I am in the same boat as the OP as I have only been playing in for the last month or so. I do not see any drive from these power blocs via their pet organizations to recruit from both low and high sectors in the Recruitment Center. In fact it looks like being only invitational and "elite".
This is mostly because you dont know how to play the game soz mate.
Since I have some kind of twisted admiration for GoodSwarm, I'd be happy to learn from a Goon. But I won't spend a dime on it, I am not a mark. 
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Blastil
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Posted - 2008.11.28 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Titan Pilot
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
As stated, look to joining some of the more opened 0.0 groups.
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In all honesty, you are not going to penetrate the golden circle of Elitists unless you have something they want...
And that something is a certain type of Moon.
In other words, dont waste your time. It will end badly. Most of the 'other' alliances are alts of the main ones. Trust me I know.
Continue doing what you do, try checking out low sec a bit, maybe war dec a corp or two. That is EVE. Its just like RL.
I respectfully disagree with your forum alt. Post with your main.
Additionally, I don't know wha kind of stupid your smokin but you can get into an alliance many many different ways. Try joining their noob corp (most major aliances DO have them) Or join a pet alliance, which gets you into ops but certainly puts less stress on you to join ops or anchor poses. You do NOT need a disposium moon to be in a 0.0 alliance.
Try petitioning one of the alliances to get your corp to join them. Also, you don't have to be a part of an alliance to fly with them. I've been flying with Goodfellas for a few weeks now and we're not in the same alliance. Make buddies, build your own corp, Offer to supply them for cheep. If you just want to get your feet wet, maybe try Providence. You'll get a feel for 0.0 politics and maybe even see some spectacular fights if you tag along with the CVA on operations. Corps started by older CEO's are more likely to be asked to join large alliances as member corps.
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.11.28 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Blastil
Originally by: Titan Pilot
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
As stated, look to joining some of the more opened 0.0 groups.
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In all honesty, you are not going to penetrate the golden circle of Elitists unless you have something they want...
And that something is a certain type of Moon.
In other words, dont waste your time. It will end badly. Most of the 'other' alliances are alts of the main ones. Trust me I know.
Continue doing what you do, try checking out low sec a bit, maybe war dec a corp or two. That is EVE. Its just like RL.
I respectfully disagree with your forum alt. Post with your main.
Additionally, I don't know wha kind of stupid your smokin but you can get into an alliance many many different ways. Try joining their noob corp (most major aliances DO have them) Or join a pet alliance, which gets you into ops but certainly puts less stress on you to join ops or anchor poses. You do NOT need a disposium moon to be in a 0.0 alliance.
Try petitioning one of the alliances to get your corp to join them. Also, you don't have to be a part of an alliance to fly with them. I've been flying with Goodfellas for a few weeks now and we're not in the same alliance. Make buddies, build your own corp, Offer to supply them for cheep. If you just want to get your feet wet, maybe try Providence. You'll get a feel for 0.0 politics and maybe even see some spectacular fights if you tag along with the CVA on operations. Corps started by older CEO's are more likely to be asked to join large alliances as member corps.
Correct
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.29 00:13:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
Correct
But....the alts.....and the people who've never left empire.....they can't be wrong. Can they? 
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Berious
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.11.29 00:18:00 -
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Edited by: Berious on 29/11/2008 00:18:49
People here are making it sound a lot harder than it is to get into 0.0. If you're active and have a good attitude any number of corps would love to have you. Check the recruitment forum. You might not have the SP, killboard or contacts for self-styled elite corps but there will be someone there with a little slice of 0.0 happy to take you.
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.11.29 00:20:00 -
[41]
Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 29/11/2008 00:21:07
Originally by: Jock Rockstrong
I've been playing this game since June. While it is fun and all, I read these forums and feel like I am missing a vast majority of the game. My typical day involves logging in, messing around with finished production jobs and completed buy-orders for ore (I outproduce my mining), mine a little, and talk to anyone who happens to be online in my corp.
But there is so much more going on that I feel I am missing! How do I meet people willing to do things? I'll see 200 people in local and not one of them ever wants to chat it seems. How do I get in on the amazing politics that go on in 0.0 space? I'm afraid to even go to 0.4 space, since my skills are pretty much exclusively mining and production. I watch the alliance maps shift on a daily basis and think "wow, it must be neat to go on an offensive with/against Band Of Brothers", or "Hey, looks like such and such alliance finally took over another cluster into that other alliance's space!".
How the heck can I get in on all this excitement? I'm losing interest with this game because I feel like I am isolated from all the good stuff. I've had a lot of coffee and I'm rambling so I'll stop typing now.
Well, i'm a military guy and I don't know half of the gameplay in this game, and my char is 3 years old.
The excitement in 0.0 comes from two things in my case : your fate comes from what you do there and what people do to you.
It's all player driven. You'll come to see big fleets of 2-3-4 years old characters and small roaming made by experts. You'll see large production facilities, all made by players. Large ships, all made bythe elite of producers.
And thrust. And betrays. And secrets. And wars.
0.0 is a game where you can loose everything. And win a lot.
It's not "when you play you win" like in Empire. In 0.0 you earn thrust, battles and glories you can't have in empire. You can loose all of this, that makes the game this great imho...
Like playing hold'em for peanuts or money.
Fetchez la vache !
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.29 00:48:00 -
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^I think that sums it up.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.11.29 04:28:00 -
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Some good reading in this thread for folks thinking of trying low sec and 0.0.
My own posts have mostly focused on the importance of NOT going Emo when things go badly, and with good reason.
0.0 is littered with the corpses of dead corps and alliances that could not avoid going Emo when they faced a serious set back.
Having said that, if things are screwed up, speak up, but even if the solution that you think is mandatory is not adopted, don't go Emo. In worst case, pack your stuff and leave, but be absolutely sure to speak only polite words and kind words on the way out. Not only must you avoid "showing" bitterness, you must avoid "being" bitter. However, BE WARNED, if you abandon ship to easily, EVEN IF YOUR COMPLAINTS ARE TRUE, you will not be an attractive recruit to the highest end groups. Establish a reputation for mental toughness and reliability, and you'll do well.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Vikarion
Caldari
White Rose Society
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Posted - 2008.11.29 07:44:00 -
[44]
If you think it's hard to get into the "big time", just try making a bit of effort to improve your resume. Train some skills, run a few missions, select a weapons system to specialize in (not missiles!) and get a little PvP experience in lowsec. It all helps, trust me.
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rez914
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.11.29 08:34:00 -
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I'd like to add don't listen to the folk saying to learn PvP, do what you love, there's always a need for you.
Especially hard core industrialists to keep the war machine churning.
If there's a niche role you've grown to love stay in it and offer it as a way you can add value to any corp. |
Ticondrius
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.29 09:27:00 -
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I'm surprised no one's even tried sending this poor soul to someone's recruiting channels.
Mate, join the in-game channel 'ANZAC recruitment' and read up on us and talk to our recruiters. We're looking for active US and UK timezone pilots of all types and maintain an empire branch for lesser skilled pilots, so this might be what you're after.
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Zzelle
Ultrapolite Socialites
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.29 09:40:00 -
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0.0 (hell, most of the game) is all about the people. Meet some people. Join a small corporation. Have fun. Have a good attitude (Sgt Spot's "don't be emo" advice). Maybe end up in a bigger corp or part of a large alliance someday.
Corporations come and go. Alliances rise and fall. Find some people you enjoy hanging out with, make some contacts, build up a bit of an in-game network, and you'll always have something to do and (should your corporation come to a bad or good end) somewhere to go.
My early 0.0 experience was in Providence, and there are a lot of good folks over there. The NRDS policies that many of them operate under strike me as weird sometimes, but it does make for a chunk of 0.0 that's a bit friendlier to new visitors and small corporations than other places.
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