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Jovoich Infestation. R.U.R.	Posted - 2008.11.27 12:41:00 - [1] Any improvements? Lows - 4x T2 PDS Med - 1x T2 AB 1x T2 LSE 1x T2 Invul 1x T2 EM Hardner 1x T2 Kin Heardner 1x Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster High - 1x T2 Medium NOS 4x T2 Missile Launcher (what ever you want) 1x Warp Disruption Field Rigs - None :S Solong as you can NOS something you can perma run the job lot. Res - 75/89/92/73 Kin/Ther defence - 647dps I know the setup could use rigs, but what rigs?! if i fit shield extenders I get alot bigger sig rad for only a couple extra k of shields.
Malcanis Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.11.27 12:44:00 - [2] This is for PvP?
Waxau Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2008.11.27 12:50:00 - [3] Originally by: Malcanis This is for PvP? Dont. Just...Dont. OP - No mate :D Damage control is needed, aswell as MWD, and load up EFT. Search for the best mix of LSE, and hardeners. Usually, you want a photon, and the rest invulns. For each invuln you put on, put on an LSEII afterwards. Eg: 1 photon (THEN:) 1 invuln, 1 LSE. Or 2 invuln, 1 LSEII. Or 2 invuln, 2 LSE II. etc etc. Dont bother active tanking, let alone faction tanking an onyx.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2008.11.27 15:50:00 - [4] Nothing changed with QR. [Onyx, Fleet] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Warp Disruption Field Generator I, Focused Warp Disruption Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I ----------- Blaster sig removed for now, pending those "changes we've been working on all day". CCP, don't screw this up.
Mag's MASS	Posted - 2008.11.27 15:57:00 - [5] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Nothing changed with QR. [Onyx, Fleet] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Warp Disruption Field Generator I, Focused Warp Disruption Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I This. I would fit 2 NOS though myself. At the end of the day, I'm not there for damage just to hold and stay alive. Mag's Originally by: Avernus One of these days, the realization that MASS is no longer significant will catch up with you.
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2008.11.27 16:36:00 - [6] Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 27/11/2008 16:40:24 I perfer HAM myself ^^. Besides I car not much for whats outside my area of effect :) [Onyx, onyx HAM] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Warp Disruption Field Generator I, Focused Warp Disruption Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Fits with decent fitting skills. And for samll gangs yo might want a BCU II instead of the 3 PDU's.
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2008.11.27 17:28:00 - [7] Originally by: Mag's This. I would fit 2 NOS though myself. At the end of the day, I'm not there for damage just to hold and stay alive. I don't fly the thing, but I can see the attraction of nos. After all, there's no point in a dedicated tackler if it can't tackle. Similarly, adding an ECCM and smartbombs as drone defence sounds attractive.
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.27 18:22:00 - [8] Originally by: Gypsio III Originally by: Mag's This. I would fit 2 NOS though myself. At the end of the day, I'm not there for damage just to hold and stay alive. I don't fly the thing, but I can see the attraction of nos. After all, there's no point in a dedicated tackler if it can't tackle. Similarly, adding an ECCM and smartbombs as drone defence sounds attractive. Smartbombs maby, but you need your tank, if you jam something big people are gonna be on you fast. And teh onyx can jam everything regardless ^^. Jamming sucsk tho, I'd rather fill some lows with backup arrays if you expect to be jammed.
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2008.11.27 18:42:00 - [9] Onyx can do plenty, there is no be all end all setup. One setup I know of: [Onyx, onyx] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Improved Cloaking Device II Medium EMP Smartbomb II Medium EMP Smartbomb II Warp Disruption Field Generator I, Focused Warp Disruption Warp Disruption Field Generator I, Focused Warp Disruption Warp Disruption Field Generator I, Focused Warp Disruption Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I God good tank, it can not move much, but it can hold three targets down withing range, that leavs your gang to web and do damage. Dual EMP samrtbomb to kill drones. After QR, do the Warp Disruption Field Generator I stop MWD as well?
Mag's MASS	Posted - 2008.11.27 18:47:00 - [10] Originally by: Lindsay Logan After QR, do the Warp Disruption Field Generator I stop MWD as well? No Mag's Originally by: Avernus One of these days, the realization that MASS is no longer significant will catch up with you.
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2008.11.27 18:49:00 - [11] Originally by: Mag's Originally by: Lindsay Logan After QR, do the Warp Disruption Field Generator I stop MWD as well? No Ok, thats stupid really :P. I mean come on, the 2 point scramble do it, the infinity point sure as h*** should do it :P
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.11.27 20:02:00 - [12] Originally by: Lindsay Logan Originally by: Mag's Originally by: Lindsay Logan After QR, do the Warp Disruption Field Generator I stop MWD as well? No Ok, thats stupid really :P. I mean come on, the 2 point scramble do it, the infinity point sure as h*** should do it :P Yes, but shutting off MWDs at 30km would be overpowered.
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2008.11.27 20:18:00 - [13] Originally by: James Lyrus Originally by: Lindsay Logan Originally by: Mag's Originally by: Lindsay Logan After QR, do the Warp Disruption Field Generator I stop MWD as well? No Ok, thats stupid really :P. I mean come on, the 2 point scramble do it, the infinity point sure as h*** should do it :P Yes, but shutting off MWDs at 30km would be overpowered. In pure game mechanics maby, but it has no logic or reason behind it. if a 2 point can do it, and infinity point should have the same effect really, bu oh well.
Xori Ruscuv	Posted - 2008.11.27 20:55:00 - [14] Originally by: Lindsay Logan In pure game mechanics maby, but it has no logic or reason behind it. if a 2 point can do it, and infinity point should have the same effect really, bu oh well. It's not that 2 points can do it, but that the scrambler can. 2, 3, or 7x Disruptors won't do it. The scrambler has a unique ability.
Kehmor Caldari Malevolent Emo Herders Obsidian Empire	Posted - 2008.11.27 21:47:00 - [15] Originally by: Lindsay Logan In pure game mechanics maby, but it has no logic or reason behind it. if a 2 point can do it, and infinity point should have the same effect really, bu oh well. The majority of the game makes no sense logically. To name a few: Sound in space, ships slowing down when mwd deactivates, lack of collision damage. - Violence isn't the answer, it is the question. The answer is yes.
Theta Omega	Posted - 2008.11.27 22:10:00 - [16] Originally by: Kehmor Sound in space, Simulated, it's a good thing, allows to put more information in pod pilot's head by using more channels :) Originally by: Kehmor ships slowing down when mwd deactivates Well ships in game don't accelerate with their engines working so it is quite consistent :P Originally by: Kehmor lack of collision damage Would we nice, but ship explosion damage would be even better - very simple way to decrease size of blobs =)
Leeluvv Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.11.27 22:31:00 - [17] Originally by: Kehmor Originally by: Lindsay Logan In pure game mechanics maby, but it has no logic or reason behind it. if a 2 point can do it, and infinity point should have the same effect really, bu oh well. The majority of the game makes no sense logically. To name a few: Sound in space, ships slowing down when mwd deactivates, lack of collision damage. Sound in space is created by your onboard computer to aid situational awareness, as the background blurb states. Slowing down is because the Eve universe is in treacle, not vacuum. Lack of collision damage is just wrong... Lee == Sig to follow
Little Matt Caldari New Fnord Industries Black Scope Project	Posted - 2008.11.28 03:19:00 - [18] Come on, we all know there is no sound in space. Eve teaches this quite well.
Poast Warrior Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.11.28 04:26:00 - [19] Merin's is the correct setup for 0.0 IMO. I have 2, 1 for low sec and 1 for 0.0. Low sec only differs in that it has a higher recharge for tanking gate guns. [Onyx, lolsec] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Shield Power Relay II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Warp Disruption Field Generator I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
Jhagiti Tyran Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2008.11.28 05:17:00 - [20] Thing with the onyx is that you will need a MWD no excuses on this tbh I got out of a 12 man hostile camp tonight because I had MWD if I had to slowboat to the gate I would have been webbed + bumped and killed even with a huge passive tank and you will need a sensor booster no excuses here either and sometimes even 1 sensor booster is not enough as it gives 498mm scan res with a T2 booster, scan res script and sig analysis V which due to the agility buff a lot of cruisers can get away. You will also need to think about fitting a cap injector to able to maintain your point, this means you lose 3 of your mids to essential utility and a 3 slot passive tank is not looking very good so an active tank is a very plausible option considering the resists you can get on the Onyx. No the tank wont be as good as a full passive tank but the passive tank precludes a lot of the necessary mods that allow it to carry out its role and survive.

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