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Nidhiesk 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.04.09 04:21:00 - [1] - Quote For the last couple of days, I tried to do missions level 4 with the FW amarr but I didn't succeed much. Most npc's would use a target painter on me and with their speed, they would catch up on me and then proceed to slowly eat my shields. Either I need to warp out and warp in again but unfortunately this was done multiple times. So I'm wondering if I missed something and if someone would be able to help me out with those missions Here is my setup which I feel is not the one I should use [Hound, FW mission Ballistic Control System I Micro Auxiliary Power Core Co-Processor I Experimental 1MN Afterburner Medium Shield Extender I Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Scrip Torpedo Launcher II, Nova Javelin Torped Torpedo Launcher II, Nova Javelin Torped Torpedo Launcher II, Nova Javelin Torped [empty high slot Covert Ops Cloaking Device I Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters Since they eat through my shields I tought of using an Shield booster....what do you guys think [Hound, fw mission shield booster type Ballistic Control System I [empty low slot Damage Control I Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity Experimental 1MN Afterburner Small C5-L Emergency Shield Overload Torpedo Launcher II, Nova Rage Torped Torpedo Launcher II, Nova Rage Torped Torpedo Launcher II, Nova Rage Torped Covert Ops Cloaking Device I [empty high slot Small Ancillary Current Router Small Capacitor Control Circuit Note: of course I could use faction mods since they are cheap. I'm just stating the "basic" mods first.
Katalci Creative Cookie Procuring Veto Corp 46	Posted - 2012.04.09 04:59:00 - [2] - Quote Train a Vigil alt for pulling full aggro and speed tanking them. This should work and won't take very long at all to train, could even just use trial accounts. [Vigil, Speed tank lol] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron 125mm Gatling AutoCannon I, EMP S 125mm Gatling AutoCannon I, EMP S [empty high slot] Small Capacitor Control Circuit I Small Capacitor Control Circuit I Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Nooki North Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.09 08:33:00 - [3] - Quote Katalci wrote: Train a Vigil alt for pulling full aggro and speed tank them. Orbit something at long range. This should work and won't take very long at all to train: [Vigil, Speed tank lol] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron 125mm Gatling AutoCannon I, EMP S 125mm Gatling AutoCannon I, EMP S [empty high slot] Small Capacitor Control Circuit I Small Capacitor Control Circuit I Small Capacitor Control Circuit I Hello Pilots, I am planing to do the same, my main in a Purifier SB and this char in a Vigil running lvl 4 FW missions for the Minmatar Militia. My noob questions are: Wouldn't it be better to use an Afterburner because of sig bloom with MWD and also a long range weapon for getting Aggro, since with 125 autos you have to fly very close and then run? FW Amarr NPC's are shooting lasers (missiles too?), I am a bit afraid that the Vigil get the occasional hit and with no shield defence it will go down very fast.. Would a cloak be helpful on this fast ship to avoid Gatecamps? Are there other suggestions for an alt speed aggro tanker ship and fitting? First Post ever btw, and please excuse my language, I am a stupid German. Thanks in advance for your polite guidance! Nooki and Norisha North - Sisters in Arms
ACE81 Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.04.09 09:50:00 - [4] - Quote You need a battle ship or cruiser to pull Argo then you can have a blast did this with a friend to good success a few times.
Nooki North Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.09 11:26:00 - [5] - Quote Thanks for the reply Ace, but sending a BS to Low Sec is not an option for my dual boxed sisters. My main Norisha North has around 22 Mil SP and is just become able to solo any normal lvl 4 mission quite comfortably . But I definitively don't want to run boring lvl 4s to finance Low Sec Battleship losses atm. I am in a kind of reorientation phase, since I refused real playing between Incarna and Crucible and only went "On and Off" this great game for informational entertainment (btw the most interesting and entertaining community, who needs TV-Shows when you can read this forums and the excellent blogs out there?) and some training. My old high Sec Corp had disintegrated, haven' t found a new one yet and I am desperately looking for new and exiting content. So I like to poke my nose into FW missions in Low Sec and thought that learning not to get killed, making good bookmarks and earn some LP's would be a good start to get experience with this fascinating but hostile environment and can be handled solo as long as my sisters are corpless. I like covops, both chars have acceptable skills in it but Nooki is primary non combat skilled so frigs and covops are the only options on her side atm.
ACE81 Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.04.09 11:59:00 - [6] - Quote That's why I said or cruiser, with an AB fit it should speed tank most of the room once all the frigs and cruisers are dead a Vexor would probably do well at this role.
Nidhiesk 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.04.09 19:03:00 - [7] - Quote I can personally tell you that a purifier is not enough for FW missions from an amarr agent. Those minnie NPC ships seems to have big resists on them. I tried it with a manticore and a hound using their respective type of torpedoes and it works fine... just not with the purifier. Also, with the afterburner I can confirm you that it's not enough. With good navigation skills even if you go above 750m/s it is not enough for the NPC's they will catch you no matter what. And if there close enough to you they will do more dmg as they are closer to you and you will not have enough options in order to survive. I'm wondering if a MWD will work because of the sig boost you get. I could try that for sure. Also, I was thinking of going solo, not using an alt (im not rich lol...wife is stealing my wallet...***** ***). I do use friends from time to time but with the Amarr it is very different from the Caldari FW missions...so that's why I need help. Also, it seems to me that the hound here as more survivability only because of the distance you start when you attack your target. I got around 100km for my torpedo to fly to so this leaves me enough room to kite, kill my target and go away but it's not all the time... Am I reading this correctly but I seem to understand that an alt is the only solution to FW amarr missions ?
Name Family Name Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 53	Posted - 2012.04.09 19:38:00 - [8] - Quote MWD wont work as Minmatar FW rats use missiles too - the sig bloom will kill you...
Nooki North Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.10 05:57:00 - [9] - Quote Thanks for your comments, but there seem to be a bit of misunderstanding. We are proud Minmatar sisters and as such we will shurely shoot only this preaching bastards ;). That's why Norisha, my main, trained for the purifier SB as her hound does the wrong damage type to the Ammar NPC's. Since Nooki doesn't have proper missile skills atm (she is my scanning and industry alt) I thought I can go into the mission get aggro and then orbit @ 100 km so my purifier can kill the mission objective untouched. Later on I plan to use both chars with Stealth Bombers.
Uppsy Daisy 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 106	Posted - 2012.04.10 11:45:00 - [10] - Quote [Hound, Amarr FW] Signal Amplifier II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II 1MN Analog Booster Rockets Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Parallel Weapon Navigation Transmitter Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Nova Torpedo Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Nova Torpedo Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Nova Torpedo Covert Ops Cloaking Device II [empty high slot] Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I Most Amarr lvl 4s can be done solo in this. Not all, but most.
Norisha North Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.10 11:49:00 - [11] - Quote Why the signal amp?
Uppsy Daisy 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 106	Posted - 2012.04.10 11:56:00 - [12] - Quote Targeting range.
Norisha North Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.10 17:05:00 - [13] - Quote Uppsy enlighten a noob please. Even with not perfect skills my Purifier targets around 72 klicks. My torps are running out of fuel at 56 km, so why should I fit a signal amp? Thanks.
Uppsy Daisy 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 106	Posted - 2012.04.10 17:09:00 - [14] - Quote Because with that ftting and perfect skills your torps will be going further, nearer 80km. Both of the rigs are +15% range. One is flight time, one is missile velocity. Also, Hound has lower base targetting range than Purifier. If your skills do not allow your torps to go this far you need to train them up before trying lvl4s in this.
Norisha North Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.10 17:17:00 - [15] - Quote Merci, they are all lvl 4 atm and qeued. That why I wan't to use a speedtanking alt. You suggest waiting until I reach out this far with my torpies?
Norisha North Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.10 17:43:00 - [16] - Quote Ops sorry. Just checked. With this fitting I reach 70 klicks with my torps. No implant needed. [Purifier, FW] 3x Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher (Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo) Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Parallel Weapon Navigation Transmitter 1MN Afterburner II 2x Ballistic Control System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I

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