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JafoPBCFR
One Stop Mining Shop
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Posted - 2008.12.06 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis Edited by: Drake Draconis on 06/12/2008 16:34:00 Edited by: Drake Draconis on 06/12/2008 16:32:58 Ok... lets call it PVP online and force everyone to PVP at will with no choice at all.
Oh wait.... there's already a game that does that.
Warhammer online.
Maybe you should go try it sometime.
its called PVP online. It is called Eve. Started 5 yrs ago. Warhammer Stole the idea from eve.
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evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.07 03:02:00 -
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Skimmed didn't see this.
Find different agent that isn't in a mission hub?!
Don't use drones, that's probably how they're finding you.
Declare war on them and own them, somehow. In fact I think the war mechanic was designed specifically for you. Declare war on them, and when they get tired of being owned and ask for forgiveness make them promise to never 'harass' another mission runner ever again.
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Kadoes Khan
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Posted - 2008.12.07 03:18:00 -
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This is not a hand holding game, protect yourself. -=^=- "Someday the world will recognize the genius in my insanity." |

FunzzeR
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.12.07 03:53:00 -
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Edited by: FunzzeR on 07/12/2008 03:55:39 Instances!? Absolutely not...
To date my mission runner alt has never been probed out in high/low sec.
There are plenty of ways to avoid getting probed down, use them instead of whining about it...
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.12.07 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis Edited by: Drake Draconis on 06/12/2008 16:34:00 Edited by: Drake Draconis on 06/12/2008 16:32:58 Ok... lets call it PVP online and force everyone to PVP at will with no choice at all.
Oh wait.... there's already a game that does that.
Warhammer online.
Maybe you should go try it sometime.
Ok... lets call it PVE online and force everyone to PVE at will with no choice at all.
Oh wait.... there is already a game that does that.
Hello Kitty online.
Maybe you should go try it sometime.
/sarcasm
Seriously, Eve was started on the principles of being primarily a pvp game, if pvp is not your cup of tea.. Fine, the mechanics for avoiding it exist... Why try to ruin it for the rest of us who pay to have fun pvping?
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Marrkel
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.12.07 05:16:00 -
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Meh all these in depth responses in ways they can make it so people cant make it into missions. When all that needs to happen is make it harder to scan out mission sites ex scan times,ext.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.12.07 19:43:00 -
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Edited by: Drake Draconis on 07/12/2008 19:43:11
Originally by: FunzzeR
Originally by: Drake Draconis Edited by: Drake Draconis on 06/12/2008 16:34:00 Edited by: Drake Draconis on 06/12/2008 16:32:58 Ok... lets call it PVP online and force everyone to PVP at will with no choice at all.
Oh wait.... there's already a game that does that.
Warhammer online.
Maybe you should go try it sometime.
Ok... lets call it PVE online and force everyone to PVE at will with no choice at all.
Oh wait.... there is already a game that does that.
Hello Kitty online.
Maybe you should go try it sometime.
/sarcasm
Seriously, Eve was started on the principles of being primarily a pvp game, if pvp is not your cup of tea.. Fine, the mechanics for avoiding it exist... Why try to ruin it for the rest of us who pay to have fun pvping?
I'm sorry... did you just try to say that its possible to avoid PVP in this game? And yet your trying to force it upon us by not supporting this thread with your reasoning?
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JK Marsh
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Posted - 2008.12.07 22:13:00 -
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I totally agree, lets have instancing...but make it specific to certain agents. Hell if you don't want "instances" don't use the agents who give them out! Why is everyone so stuck in the mould of "...this is the way Eve is meant to be played..Bla..Bla..."? The way todays economy is ANY mmorpg needs to either hold on to the players it has or try and suck in more players from other games, Eve is very open ended in what you want to be, unfortunately due to the amount of alts you can have with one account this also means a lot of grieffing,why? because they can! Bored grinding missions or roid raping? Just jump in your alt for some all time grieffing action..YAY...NOT! Fine if thats the way you want to play BUT also fine if I want to jump into a closed mission and do my thing, the way I want to do it. Nobody's forcing anybody else to do it if they don't want to but give other players the option, it's all about choices.
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.12.07 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis
I'm sorry... did you just try to say that its possible to avoid PVP in this game? And yet your trying to force it upon us by not supporting this thread with your reasoning?
Funny, I see the exact opposite. Lots of people wanting pvp to be safer and more consentual. Much the same as pvper wanting non-pvpers to fight. Still best tool a player has is avoid pvp is thinking, if you don't want to fight figure out how use the game mechanics to that end. Afterall, thats what us pirates and pvpers do. Someone had to put some thought into developing tactics and cookie cutter setups that the rest of the pvp player base popularizes, and hence FOTM. Why should PVE'ers be any different?
Having seen and understood both sides of the arguement I know forcing and nerfing PVE'ers out of highsec and into low sec and 0.0 won't do any good. Rather I believe that making adjustments to the rewards and perhaps adding uniqe incentives will encorage some to take a little more risk and venture out of highsec.
You accuse me of wanting to force pvp on others, when I am in favor of alternate ideas that do not adversely impact either side, but rather provides new opportunites for both sides( I do believe that is possible) As I mentioned before, I have seen and tried both pvp and pve extensively. Can you honestly say the same?
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.12.07 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: JK Marsh I totally agree, lets have instancing...but make it specific to certain agents. Hell if you don't want "instances" don't use the agents who give them out! Why is everyone so stuck in the mould of "...this is the way Eve is meant to be played..Bla..Bla..."? The way todays economy is ANY mmorpg needs to either hold on to the players it has or try and suck in more players from other games, Eve is very open ended in what you want to be, unfortunately due to the amount of alts you can have with one account this also means a lot of grieffing,why? because they can! Bored grinding missions or roid raping? Just jump in your alt for some all time grieffing action..YAY...NOT! Fine if thats the way you want to play BUT also fine if I want to jump into a closed mission and do my thing, the way I want to do it. Nobody's forcing anybody else to do it if they don't want to but give other players the option, it's all about choices.
You forget many of the main draws that eve has is the sandbox environment, that many other MMOs don't provide. To add instancing would be another nail in the sandbox coffin.
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JK Marsh
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Posted - 2008.12.07 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: FunzzeR
Originally by: JK Marsh I totally agree, lets have instancing...but make it specific to certain agents. Hell if you don't want "instances" don't use the agents who give them out! Why is everyone so stuck in the mould of "...this is the way Eve is meant to be played..Bla..Bla..."? The way todays economy is ANY mmorpg needs to either hold on to the players it has or try and suck in more players from other games, Eve is very open ended in what you want to be, unfortunately due to the amount of alts you can have with one account this also means a lot of grieffing,why? because they can! Bored grinding missions or roid raping? Just jump in your alt for some all time grieffing action..YAY...NOT! Fine if thats the way you want to play BUT also fine if I want to jump into a closed mission and do my thing, the way I want to do it. Nobody's forcing anybody else to do it if they don't want to but give other players the option, it's all about choices.
You forget many of the main draws that eve has is the sandbox environment, that many other MMOs don't provide. To add instancing would be another nail in the sandbox coffin.
Why would it? What it is doing is giving players the OPTION whether to use instances or not without being forced.
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Haakelen
Gallente Cassandra's Light Caeruleum Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.07 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: JK Marsh Why would it? What it is doing is giving players the OPTION whether to use instances or not without being forced.
Why would anyone farming ISK do anything but use the instanced agents? Out of the goodness of their heart? 
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JK Marsh
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Posted - 2008.12.07 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Haakelen
Originally by: JK Marsh Why would it? What it is doing is giving players the OPTION whether to use instances or not without being forced.
Why would anyone farming ISK do anything but use the instanced agents? Out of the goodness of their heart? 
What they would be doing is playing the game the way they want to, too many players in this game are quite happy to dictate what others should/shouldn't do, give players the choice, if you don't want to use those agents well DON'T THEN! But if others do want to use them...so be it.
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