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Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2008.11.30 23:28:00 - [31] Originally by: Raniss Comments about caldari recons being paperthing is stupid, every recon is paperthin (falcon can fit 1600mm plate dumbasses so stop whining about paperthin argument). A recon that has to be within 50km is even more paperthin, because every single ship can fire at you at that range, whereas a falcon has its 240km range as tank. NO ****ING RECON OUT THERE HAS ANY GRID/CPU FOR A DECENT TANK. Omg, never read that much nonsense in a few sentences. Fitting 1600mm plates on falcons is for rookies that should fly blackbirds instead. Falcon + 1600mm plate = 16k EHP max skilled, you call that a tank dumbass? Besides it'll suck at jamming, the only thing it can do. Just FYI, the other recons are in the 28k-35k ballpark. Pretty much every recon apart from the falcon/rook can afford to mount a decent tank...
Kristoffer Amarr The Einherjar Corporation	Posted - 2008.12.01 00:17:00 - [32] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: Raniss Omg, never read that much nonsense in a few sentences. Fitting 1600mm plates on falcons is for rookies that should fly blackbirds instead. Falcon + 1600mm plate = 16k EHP max skilled, you call that a tank dumbass? Besides it'll suck at jamming, the only thing it can do. Disagree. 1600mm RT is needed. It gives your jammers time to cycle if your already engaged so you can jam whatevers on you off you. Eh
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2008.12.01 00:30:00 - [33] Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 01/12/2008 00:33:19 Originally by: Kristoffer Disagree. 1600mm RT is needed. It gives your jammers time to cycle if your already engaged so you can jam whatevers on you off you. A LSE will do the same much better. You'll have one less jammer, but the extra SDA will make up for that, you get ~4k less EHP, but you dont suffer the HUGE agility penalty. Besides, your jammers can cycle while you are cloaked.
Joss Sparq Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.01 01:57:00 - [34] Originally by: Master Han I think ECM should be changed just to 1 module. The base would be a multispectral ECM. And each script would be to make it into each type of racial ECM. So 1 module, 4 scripts. ECM fixed! I endorse this well-considered buff to ECM.
ShadowGod56	Posted - 2008.12.01 05:05:00 - [35] i think ECM should stay the same in all honesty what i do think needs a boost is ECCM, so that way people would use it instead of turning off there brain and posting NERF FALCON!!! threads
BiggestT Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works	Posted - 2008.12.01 05:51:00 - [36] Originally by: Merin Ryskin ECM is already scripted. In fact, it's worse than scripted, as you have to fit a different module instead of just changing a script. So unless you want to boost ECM, drop the whole script idea. applause EVE history t2 precisions
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2008.12.01 06:03:00 - [37] Originally by: ShadowGod56 i think ECM should stay the same in all honesty what i do think needs a boost is ECCM, so that way people would use it instead of turning off there brain and posting NERF FALCON!!! threads Well, I guess that will not keep them from posting nerf threads, as eccm is already fairly effective (in fact more effective than any other anti-ewar module). People just need to get in their heads that eccm is not an invulnerability module, and that there is nothing you can do to prevent your solo ship from being jammed by 6 falcons. Less jammed ships in your fleet = less tears = better fights...
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2008.12.01 06:09:00 - [38] Originally by: EFT Warrior Originally by: Lilith Velkor Just FYI, the other recons are in the 28k-35k ballpark. funny image Uhm, your name suggests you know about EFT, why not check yourself? These are base values ofc, I admit you get significantly better tanks with decent gang bonuses... Oh, and poast with your main
daisy dook	Posted - 2008.12.02 00:57:00 - [39] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: ShadowGod56 i think ECM should stay the same in all honesty what i do think needs a boost is ECCM, so that way people would use it instead of turning off there brain and posting NERF FALCON!!! threads Well, I guess that will not keep them from posting nerf threads, as eccm is already fairly effective (in fact more effective than any other anti-ewar module). People just need to get in their heads that eccm is not an invulnerability module, and that there is nothing you can do to prevent your solo ship from being jammed by 6 falcons. Less jammed ships in your fleet = less tears = better fights... ergo we should all whine about Falcons in the forums... erm, sorry, we should all fit the correct racial ECCM for our ships.
Soryanna	Posted - 2008.12.02 01:26:00 - [40] Nerf the range of ECM and change it to a high slot module so Caldari ships can fit their e-war and a tank, or just fit an ECCM and quit yer *****ing.
Poena Loveless Minmatar Dawn of a new Empire	Posted - 2008.12.02 02:16:00 - [41] Originally by: Lux Exterior As the title suggests, why not script for range OR jam strength, this would bring it into line with all other ewar. firstly, you are wrong, Target painting (minmatar ewar) doesn't have any scripts. secondly, in scripted ewar (tracking disruption and sensor dampening), the scripts affect HOW the target is affected, not the abilities and attributes of the activation of the module in question. Lastly, ECM is fine the way it is. The risk vs reward model is perfectly fine and since ecm ships give up any chance at tanking with equiping ecm modules in the lows and mids, I would say they are risking a lot more than the others. Thats not even including the completly valid argument of chance being involved.
Helfix Caldari Rage For Order Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2008.12.02 05:18:00 - [42] I have a question, Why are people complaining about the 249km range? Is it only time a person has that range if he's already set-up in a camp, in a fleet fight with already with long ranges or he set them up long before hand which means he's still in a camp.... Basically for him to have that 249km advantage he has to be at his home-field where he should already have advantage because your invading his space no? Or am I missing this 249km argument completely? -Helfix

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