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zipperstopperking	Posted - 2008.12.01 04:35:00 - [1] i have studdied the big ships of the worlds navys and am an avid sci fi fan i have seen every sci fi there is and one thing i have allways noticed that all the shipps as they get bigger they have more guns and more missile ports but ccp have stuck to this idea they all have to have maximium of 8 or is it they are to lazy to fix the problem as i found out the hard way when i took my big ship agaist a way less superior ship only to find out that a small ship in this game has the advantage of being faster and as they had the exact amount of ports they kicked my ass badly which i was not aware could happen and after recon with other ship scaned it and found he was fitted with the exact same weapons i had and the only advantage was speed well in reallity even speed does not kick the big ships ass the big ship should be able to blow the hell out of the little ship in secound not the way it happens in eve , this floor has been bugging me since i started whats the use of upgradeing to a much more expencive ship when a well armed smaller ship that has speed can kill you very expencive big ships fix the problem eve development watch battestar galactica for god sake steel some ideas from smarter people then you as you have not thought a lot of eve out to me this game has not really left the concept stage as you relly on us to help you which is not a bad idea when you have no concept of what you are really dooing go anf hire some sci fi include starwars latest 3 movies as they have some big ship battles and get a clue please note this tread is for ccp as i dod not intend to waste any more time helping them out as im not geting paid for it start paying people smarter then you and get your act togehter anfd for god sake get a manual
Shaitan Katana Caldari Cyberdyne Research	Posted - 2008.12.01 04:40:00 - [2] I just contracted you a dictionary.... ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Only the dead have seen the end of war
InsanlyEvlPerson Gallente Night-Stalkers	Posted - 2008.12.01 04:43:00 - [3] Edited by: InsanlyEvlPerson on 01/12/2008 04:43:00 i'll send you a grammar and punctuation book next time i log on. --------------------------------------------- I may be a bit over Zealot, but i cant help myself, its the best investment i ever made!
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2008.12.01 04:55:00 - [4] I agree on some points. When you have BIG guns it's a bit more "thought", but for example when you have BS and fit it with 8x small lasers. I reality you should probably be able to fit 20 of them. It's a bit whacked that a BIG turret equals SMALL turret when it comes to modules. Stop whining.
minouss	Posted - 2008.12.01 05:03:00 - [5] Most ships also have more than one crewman, but we're not going to go there. 8 slots exist because it's easier to fit 6 missile launchers and 2 neuts than say 60 missile launchers and 20 neuts. Less stuff for us to keep track of, and I like it that way. If you want "realism" you should play a different game (one particularly where you can't train skills constantly, even while doing high-risk maneuvers, and where a jump of 30+ systems is only a clone away). I prefer to think of my 6 heavy missile launchers as 6 heavy missile launcher groups, capable of firing one missile roughly every 10 seconds per missile group. And/or it fires multiple missiles at once, and they impact at close to the same time (Due to missiles no-miss chance, and that it takes several defender missiles to down them, you could even say that some of the missile miss when you do less damage).
zipperstopperking	Posted - 2008.12.01 05:06:00 - [6] to the idiots compain about my gramer for god sake let a man check and edit before ya start making coments its ccps fault they dont have priew page before pst ya have to post before it can be checked for looks so ****ers go away i dont give a sh%t about grammar +
zipperstopperking	Posted - 2008.12.01 05:08:00 - [7] well im of the opinion that its relivat if ya dont agree have you say but if ya think they have it right well then it your opion this is mine last coment
zipperstopperking	Posted - 2008.12.01 05:11:00 - [8] dear sir if ya think about it im right as if ya have lees just because it easy to keep track of maby ya need to play a kids game instaed i was lead to belive this was for adults and as an adult if ya cant keep track of more then 8 items you have a very bad problem go and see ya doctor he mite help ya out getting of the drugs, Originally by: minouss Most ships also have more than one crewman, but we're not going to go there. 8 slots exist because it's easier to fit 6 missile launchers and 2 neuts than say 60 missile launchers and 20 neuts. Less stuff for us to keep track of, and I like it that way. If you want "realism" you should play a different game (one particularly where you can't train skills constantly, even while doing high-risk maneuvers, and where a jump of 30+ systems is only a clone away). I prefer to think of my 6 heavy missile launchers as 6 heavy missile launcher groups, capable of firing one missile roughly every 10 seconds per missile group. And/or it fires multiple missiles at once, and they impact at close to the same time (Due to missiles no-miss chance, and that it takes several defender missiles to down them, you could even say that some of the missile miss when you do less damage).
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2008.12.01 05:15:00 - [9] I also thought adults could write. Stop whining.
Dyaven The Tuskers	Posted - 2008.12.01 05:22:00 - [10] To summarize the OP's post: My BS got killed by an AF. Give BS 500 guns so small ships cant kill me. ===== * Your signature file is broken. Please use an image that will display - Fallout
Elurilmar	Posted - 2008.12.01 05:36:00 - [11] Battleship killed by frigate. +++You're doing it wrong+++ It's called web/scram/drones/smartbomb/neut/nos
Josie Kaiser	Posted - 2008.12.01 05:47:00 - [12] lol. this is great. P.S. I see a Preview button.
Lego Maniac Minmatar	Posted - 2008.12.01 06:01:00 - [13] you're not allowed to use emoticons anymore
BiggestT Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works	Posted - 2008.12.01 06:01:00 - [14] I agree, it is a little lame that a bs can only have as many guns/points as some smaller ships. It makes no sense in a logical point of view. However, for balance in EVE, so thats its not just big>little (true in rl), The smaller ships are unrealistically able to take on the bigger variants much more succesfully. Hope that makes sense x) EVE history t2 precisions
Syn G Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2008.12.01 06:39:00 - [15] Originally by: InsanlyEvlPerson Edited by: InsanlyEvlPerson on 01/12/2008 04:43:00 i'll send you a grammar and punctuation book next time i log on. he does use puntuaction. they are the emoticons. as for the op. if your bigger ship is fitting the exact same guns as a smaller ship, then i believe the problem is on your end, not ccp's. and right under all the emoticons that you seem to be so adept at using is a checkbox that says "Check here to preview your post"
Terraform Gallente Recreation Of The World	Posted - 2008.12.01 06:40:00 - [16] THe forum called, it wants its smilies back!
Hellinthose	Posted - 2008.12.01 06:48:00 - [17] Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer I agree on some points. When you have BIG guns it's a bit more "thought", but for example when you have BS and fit it with 8x small lasers. I reality you should probably be able to fit 20 of them. Umm, in reality there are no such things as "Battleships" fitting Lasers for warfare, but besides that you have to look at it like your house. Does your house have the ability to fit more than one stove and one dryer without reshaping the interior of the house? No. You have to add fuseboxes / power input and have to cut holes in the wall to "Plug them in" Same with guns, you cannot put a gun in a slot where no slot exists.
Zeon Mackie Caldari Global Dominion Enterprise	Posted - 2008.12.01 06:49:00 - [18] 8/10 ? If not a troll, CIHYS? Otherwise - please read the player guide and use the appropriate forum area / help channel for questions you have.
Gabriel Virtus Cassandra's Light Caeruleum Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.01 06:58:00 - [19] Why do you all have to be a bunch of ****s about punctuation and spelling. I think it is obvious that a fair amount of people in the game have english as a second or third langauge. You can understand what they are trying to communicate so please, get off their nuts.
Foulque	Posted - 2008.12.01 07:15:00 - [20] No chance I'm reading that
Princess Jessica Minmatar Universal Assembler	Posted - 2008.12.01 07:21:00 - [21] Bad Grammar Enough said...
RayBanJockey	Posted - 2008.12.01 07:24:00 - [22] Big ships DO have more slots than small ones. --- RBJ
Imaos	Posted - 2008.12.01 07:30:00 - [23] Originally by: Gabriel Virtus Why do you all have to be a bunch of **s about punctuation and spelling. I think it is obvious that a fair amount of people in the game have english as a second or third langauge. You can understand what they are trying to communicate so please, get off their nuts. You can recognize non-native speakers by their vocabulary and grammar. The lack of punctuation and spelling (and the missing u in words like colour) hint to an american english native speaker. English isn't my first language, that for I try to post legible. Imaos ------------------------------------------ Originally by:** NoNah My friend, this is EVE, as it's a space oriented game, they couldn't have trolls. We have Caldari.
Imaos	Posted - 2008.12.01 07:33:00 - [24] Originally by: RayBanJockey Big ships DO have more slots than small ones. And the OP has far more issues than that. Seems he jumped into a ship without reading a guide and assuming bigger is better. He jumped the forum without reading all of the submit page. (And I guess he posted in rage and/or drunk) Imaos ------------------------------------------ Originally by: NoNah My friend, this is EVE, as it's a space oriented game, they couldn't have trolls. We have Caldari.
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2008.12.01 08:44:00 - [25] Originally by: Imaos Originally by: Gabriel Virtus Why do you all have to be a bunch of **s about punctuation and spelling. I think it is obvious that a fair amount of people in the game have english as a second or third langauge. You can understand what they are trying to communicate so please, get off their nuts. You can recognize non-native speakers by their vocabulary and grammar. The lack of punctuation and spelling (and the missing u in words like colour) hint to an american english native speaker. English isn't my first language, that for I try to post legible. Imaos What he said. /me contracts the OP a new Enter key. -------------------- Originally by:** Crumplecorn I prefer launching bathtubs of antimatter at my opponents over pointing an open DVD player at them, even if the bathtubs do miss a lot. So no.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.12.01 09:00:00 - [26] Edited by: Akita T on 01/12/2008 09:03:06 Originally by: zipperstopperking its ccps fault they dont have priew page They do have a preview page, you probably missed the checkbox because you don't know how to spell it. P.S. Also, as to your OP - that's a game design choice. They could easily give you craploads more module slots as ship size increases, but that would render pretty much any ship class below the largest you can fly/afford useless in practical terms. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Kitana Muerte Rytiri Lva R.U.R.	Posted - 2008.12.01 09:07:00 - [27] Originally by: zipperstopperking Edited by: zipperstopperking on 01/12/2008 05:03:43 i have studdied the big ships of the worlds navys and am an avid sci fi fan i have seen every sci fi there is and one thing i have allways noticed that all the shipps as they get bigger they have more guns and more missile ports but ccp have stuck to this idea they all have to have maximium of 8 or is it they are to lazy to fix the problem as i found out the hard way when i took my big ship agaist a way less superior ship only to find out that a small ship in this game has the advantage of being faster and as they had the exact amount of ports they kicked my ass badly which i was not aware could happen and after recon with other ship scaned it and found he was fitted with the exact same weapons i had and the only advantage was speed well in reallity even speed does not kick the big ships ass the big ship should be able to blow the hell out of the little ship in secound not the way it happens in eve , this floor has been bugging me since i started whats the use of upgradeing to a much more expencive ship when a well armed smaller ship that has speed can kill you very expencive big ships fix the problem eve development team,watch battlestar galactica for god sake, steel some ideas from smarter people then you as you have not thought a lot about the concept of eve .this game has not really left the concept stage as you really on us to help you which is not a bad idea when you have no concept of what you are really dooing go and hire some sci fi movies include starwars latest 3 movies as they have some big ship battles and get a clue please note this tread is for ccp as i do not intend to waste any more time helping them out as im not geting paid for it ,.start paying people smarter then you and get your act togehter anfd for god sake get a manual can I have your stuff?
Walker Bulldog VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD	Posted - 2008.12.01 09:11:00 - [28] Edited by: Walker Bulldog on 01/12/2008 09:11:40 Originally by: Kitana Muerte can I have your stuff? Do you really think he has any?
Euriti Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.12.01 09:30:00 - [29] Originally by: zipperstopperking to the idiots compain about my gramer for god sake let a man check and edit before ya start making coments its ccps fault they dont have priew page before pst ya have to post before it can be checked for looks so ****ers go away i dont give a sh%t about grammar + Not even preview could save that miserable piece of text
Morgan La'Chance Caldari Dynamic Reallocation and Logistics	Posted - 2008.12.01 09:46:00 - [30] Could you please condense your point because I'm not sure if you're saying "in real life, battleships had secondary batteries that were much like the main batteries of cruisers or destroyers" or "I am terrible at this game and I died :(".
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.12.01 09:47:00 - [31] game balance > rl accuracy or realism ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
vostok Minmatar Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.12.01 10:21:00 - [32] I get what you're saying but bigger ships do have more slots. Frigates - mostly 4 highs Cruisers - mostly 6 highs Battleships - mostly 8 highs Then destroyers and battlecruisers were brought into the game. What I would like to see is instead of more slots, just real dual and quad guns. So a battleship could fit a gun that had 4 small weapons, that tracked like small weapons and they could use the ''charge rate'' value that all guns have and set it to 4 S charges per volley. The issue then is we end up with BS with 32 small guns tracking frigates and generally mincing everything because that will be a fair lump of fast damage that will hit just about any target. In fact if a megathron used faction ammo in small neutron blasters and could use 32 of them, it would deal 1440 dps before damage mods. And that's why my idea can never happen. - Adaptation is not* an excuse for lack of ballance!* -
Phoenix Torp Caldari Kingmakers	Posted - 2008.12.01 10:48:00 - [33] I use english as third language (not spoken in the country but to foreign people) and his post hurts my eyes. ------ Skills
Acinonyx Jubatus Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.12.01 11:41:00 - [34] Well, if his post was more ligible(Yeah I read it, but it takes 3 times longer to do so) it'd get his point across easier and avoid the responses on how atrocious it is. Also, insulting ccp for getting their product incorrect according to a tv show/movie's depiction of a similiar thing within a totally unrelated and different universe... yeah. As for a BS faultering to a smallership, yeah it happens, but this is where support comes in. You don't see them deploying battleships in real life(not that they do anymore afaik) without any sort of smaller support. You can also fit smaller weaponry on your BS with a bigger tank if you so wish, so it kinda solves that issue. That said, it does kinda seem he hopped into a bigger ship assuming it'd be much better, which we know it's not how eve works, bigger isn't always better.
zipperstopperking	Posted - 2008.12.01 12:03:00 - [35] to all the ****ers that are concerned with my grammar how weathy are you im a millionaire as i did not worry about spelling and made my fortune get a life ya losseresssssssds
Walker Bulldog VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD	Posted - 2008.12.01 12:04:00 - [36] You can look at it this way even. An unsupported (real life) battleship is easy prey for a submarine (see: U-9, USS Archerfish, IJN I-19 for examples), minelayer (see Nusret), land-based aircraft (see Force Z), carrier aircraft (too many examples, but look up Yamato and Musashi), torpedo boats (see Muavenet-i Milliye), etc - all these examples have one thing in common: light forces destroying vessels tens of times their size, without suffering any losses of their own.
Shaitan Katana Caldari Cyberdyne Research	Posted - 2008.12.01 12:06:00 - [37] Originally by: zipperstopperking to all the ***ers that are concerned with my grammar how weathy are you im a millionaire as i did not worry about spelling and made my fortune get a life ya losseresssssssds woot, I'm cool now too ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Only the dead have seen the end of war*
Aleus Stygian	Posted - 2008.12.01 12:24:00 - [38] Originally by: Gabriel Virtus Why do you all have to be a bunch of ****s about punctuation and spelling. I think it is obvious that a fair amount of people in the game have english as a second or third langauge. You can understand what they are trying to communicate so please, get off their nuts. English is not either my first language. It is my third. And I would want to see you guess which my first and second is. ... No, seriously. This sort of stuff should be counted as spam, disregarded and done away with quickly in the first place. It's fairly obvious that the OP is searching for a different sort of game. My knowledge of alternatives is scarce, but I'd say he can get off on Homeworld 2 for a bit while searching for something better.

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