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Greek Dionysus	Posted - 2009.01.09 17:23:00 - [31] To the above poster, just to add on that, Make it only if you have more then 900,000 SP and a basic clone, then the message pop up. But under only those circumstances, not when you simple forgot to update your clone with a better one to fit all your SP in. And the message can be disabled, like nearly everything else. Problem solved and everyone is happy.
Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2009.01.09 19:43:00 - [32] You didn't lose the skill due to the clone being improper, you lost it due to you being a moron.
Grarr Dexx Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.09 20:15:00 - [33] Originally by: Dahak2150 You didn't lose the skill due to the clone being improper, you lost it due to you being a moron. Ka-ding. Take it like a man. ----- Nexus stamps of approvalÖ count: 1
Cilvius Sanctus Gallente The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus	Posted - 2009.01.10 02:07:00 - [34] Originally by: Lui Kai In answer to the "What's the point of lower clones at all??" question - If podded with an out of date clone, you don't just lose "X level of Y skill" The game takes your current SP, subtracts the clone's SP, then takes 5% of that amount. It then looks at the highest SP/level you have, and removes that 5% from there, to a max of a full rank. So, if your clone was only slightly out of date - 10k SP - the loss is negligable. If your clone is 30M sp out of date, the loss is surprise buttsex. OP, the above post (aside from making me laugh hysterically) is the answer to why the lower grade clones still appear.
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa Minmatar The Perfect Harvesting Experience	Posted - 2009.01.10 19:53:00 - [35] Warning: You have started a session of EVE, be prepared for some serious spanking. ----------------------------------------------- Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
Draeca Tharri and Co.	Posted - 2009.01.10 20:44:00 - [36] Originally by: Shaen Vesuvius I mean, you get a pop up when you do something trivial like repackage an item. Without that popup it would be possible to accidentally repackage your rigged ship.
Marine HK4861 Caldari Radical Technologies	Posted - 2009.01.11 14:04:00 - [37] Originally by: Lui Kai If podded with an out of date clone, you don't just lose "X level of Y skill" The game takes your current SP, subtracts the clone's SP, then takes 5% of that amount. It then looks at the highest SP/level you have, and removes that 5% from there, to a max of a full rank. All correct except that the maximum loss is capped to 50% of the skill, not one rank. It was one rank prior to Revelations. Since then it's been 50% (last tested on the current Tranquillity build).
Grarr Dexx Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.11 21:48:00 - [38] Originally by: Marine HK4861 Originally by: Lui Kai If podded with an out of date clone, you don't just lose "X level of Y skill" The game takes your current SP, subtracts the clone's SP, then takes 5% of that amount. It then looks at the highest SP/level you have, and removes that 5% from there, to a max of a full rank. All correct except that the maximum loss is capped to 50% of the skill, not one rank. It was one rank prior to Revelations. Since then it's been 50% (last tested on the current Tranquillity build). I lost 61%. ----- Nexus stamps of approvalÖ count: 1
Marine HK4861 Caldari Radical Technologies	Posted - 2009.01.12 00:32:00 - [39] Originally by: Grarr Dexx All correct except that the maximum loss is capped to 50% of the skill, not one rank. It was one rank prior to Revelations. Since then it's been 50% (last tested on the current Tranquillity build). I lost 61%. I advise you to double check your numbers. Note that the 50% is of the ENTIRE skill, so if losing the full amount from a rank 8 skill (2.048 million SP), that'd be 1.024 million SP. This is 61% of level 4 to level 5, NOT 61% of the entire skill: SP from level 4 to level 5 in a rank 8: 1,685,961 SP. SP loss (1,024,000) / 1,685,961 = 61%.
Grarr Dexx Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.12 06:26:00 - [40] Originally by: Marine HK4861 Originally by: Grarr Dexx All correct except that the maximum loss is capped to 50% of the skill, not one rank. It was one rank prior to Revelations. Since then it's been 50% (last tested on the current Tranquillity build). I lost 61%. I advise you to double check your numbers. Note that the 50% is of the ENTIRE skill, so if losing the full amount from a rank 8 skill (2.048 million SP), that'd be 1.024 million SP. This is 61% of level 4 to level 5, NOT 61% of the entire skill: SP from level 4 to level 5 in a rank 8: 1,685,961 SP. SP loss (1,024,000) / 1,685,961 = 61%. Guess you could be right, Medium Energy Turret. ----- Nexus stamps of approvalÖ count: 1
Marine HK4861 Caldari Radical Technologies	Posted - 2009.01.12 17:28:00 - [41] Originally by: Grarr Dexx Guess you could be right, Medium Energy Turret. Going to need more info than that. When you're podded without an up to date clone, you get an EVEmail listing how much SP was lost and from what skill. Listing that, along with the SP in Medium Energy Turret before and after the podding, how much SP you had before the podding and what quality clone you had, would show you that my numbers are correct.
Writ Insand	Posted - 2009.01.13 19:59:00 - [42] Edited by: Writ Insand on 13/01/2009 20:01:59 A more sensible UI would be to have a slider bar. Over the slider is a text box that displays number of SP and total isk cost, which changes as you move the slider. The bar would default to 100% of your current SP (far right) but you could slide it to the left if you choose to purchase less SP protection. Would take up less space than the current UI, is less error prone, no silly clone names, and no need to update it manually every time one of elder gods passes another SP milestone.
Kordel Trask	Posted - 2009.01.21 00:54:00 - [43] Bottom line. This is suppose to be a game and not constant maintenance. Player's shouldn't be penalized for making a mistake and losing a month or more of skill points for a simple error. God forbid you were in the game for a year or more and it happened to you! (You would be crying a lot louder than anyone here right now) Hasn't happened to me, but I came close ONCE. Just like the listed scenario, In a fight, blood pumping, adrenaline coursing I got fragged and wanted to get back to the fray. Not so hard to overlook a simple setting like that. I didn't get fragged the second time but almost had a stroke when I realized what I had risked!! I had to drink a serious number of beers to calm down. At the minimum a pop up warning should be generated every time you leave a station in this condition and enter any low sec area. Best case: Remove the skill points for the jump clones. It's a game mechanic that really serve's no purpose at all.
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa Minmatar The Perfect Harvesting Experience	Posted - 2009.01.21 08:00:00 - [44] Wrong bottom line... Right bottom line... PAY ATTENTION ! Especially after you find yourself in a cloning-facility right after being podded. ----------------------------------------------- Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2009.01.21 13:59:00 - [45] Originally by: Kordel Trask . Player's shouldn't be penalized for making a mistake Yes, they should.
Zambious	Posted - 2009.01.21 14:16:00 - [46] Originally by: Floundere Edited by: Floundere on 01/12/2008 20:08:08 My personal error lost me the sp, fine I have excepted that. I wonder how many actually read the thread? It is an idea thread not a complaint thread, Although it is an idea, albeit a bad one; what other features would you like the game to play for you? You made your decision, and got burnt. Your current SP is at the top of the Clone window. How much do you think a clone is for a 40-50mil SP player? It really isnt the cpst of "1-3mil" that you suggest in your opening post.
Gartel Reiman Civis Romanus Sum	Posted - 2009.01.23 17:21:00 - [47] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Kordel Trask . Player's shouldn't be penalized for making a mistake Yes, they should.

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