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Minny Sky	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:50:00 - [1] Ok, so CCP has proven they can stick a node or two on one blade and get a nice fleet fight with upwards of 1000 people engaged without melting everything. It is time to make the entire plane out of the black box. Start adding more dedicated servers a few at a time to 0.0 until the place can handle anything. The problem, I am sure, is financial resources. It would probably cost a fortune to start setting up eve the way it should be setup, but hey.. I know there are peolpe at CCP that want to start doing this. Make it happen. Thanks
knifee Caldari Euphoria Released	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:53:00 - [2] Oh wow, thats a really good idea. Did you come up with it all by yourself?
Cantana Soul Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:53:00 - [3] That's...Quite scary....amount of Money and resources.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:57:00 - [4] Watch this video and rejoice. you can safely skip the m$ pr segment as its just well.. pr inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Karille Gallente Cold Templars Templar Initiative	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:00:00 - [5] CCP have never considered upgrading their entire server infrastructure or made a plan to do so. C/D?
Kyra Felann Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:12:00 - [6] You know making a plane out of whatever the 'black box' is made out of wouldn't work, right? This post is about as helpful as suggesting making a plane out of a 'black box'.
Grarr Dexx Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:29:00 - [7] That would be a heavy as **** plane. -----
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:43:00 - [8] What TQ is missing is dynamic load balancing. My understanding is that they're working on this. Your suggestion is a total waste of money. Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:45:00 - [9] Originally by: Minny Sky It is time to make the entire plane out of the black box. George Bush, is that you? -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Faife Noctiscion	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:50:00 - [10] the reason we don't make the plane out of the black box is cause it'd be too heavy to fly (look at me, i got trolled) -- i am a humble and inefficient ammo to dps converter
Minny Sky	Posted - 2008.12.02 13:08:00 - [11] It is what needs to be done. The analogy is pretty poor though. The technology exists to run these nodes snoothly, it is just a matter of money and some creativity perhaps.
Karille Gallente Cold Templars Templar Initiative	Posted - 2008.12.02 13:17:00 - [12] It IS what needs to be done, and they're in the process of doing it right now. If you watch the video from fan fest you might be happy.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.02 13:19:00 - [13] Originally by: Karille CCP have never considered upgrading their entire server infrastructure or made a plan to do so. C/D? I believe that they've actually done it a couple of times since 2003. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.02 13:29:00 - [14] Originally by: Washell Olivaw What TQ is missing is dynamic load balancing. My understanding is that they're working on this. Your suggestion is a total waste of money. this, then all they need to do is have a few more of these uber nodes, soon as a system starts to get full or load heavy, it load ballences to one of the new uber nodes and the fight continues mostly lag free (or at least less). Then everyone will be happy
ZinderX500 Caldari Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.02 13:30:00 - [15] Originally by: Xtreem Then everyone will be happy Some people will never be happy and will keep on whining. Don't forget that.
baltec1 R.U.S.T. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.12.02 13:30:00 - [16] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Karille CCP have never considered upgrading their entire server infrastructure or made a plan to do so. C/D? I believe that they've actually done it a couple of times since 2003. This one is weak with the sarcasm
Winterblink Body Count Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.02 13:37:00 - [17] Originally by: Washell Olivaw What TQ is missing is dynamic load balancing. My understanding is that they're working on this. Your suggestion is a total waste of money. What this gentleman said. The game doesn't need a computer capable of running a 1000 person fleet fight in every system at the same time, it needs the ability to properly and dynamically allocate resources from sleepy systems to ones that are much more active on the fly. Which is what is coming. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Minny Sky	Posted - 2008.12.04 16:24:00 - [18] The future of EVE backbone in it's infancy. http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2596&tid=1
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.12.04 16:50:00 - [19] The Internet would work better if everyone had a 100mbit fiber line going to their house. Make it happen. - DesuSigs
Emalyn Throsar Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.12.04 17:10:00 - [20] ok I'll bight... 1) Material. No Engine currently operated can keep a plane made from hardened steel in the air. 2) Cost. Not ethical and explanes itself. 3) Impact. It makes NO Difference what the plane is made from. Kinetic energy of an impact would kill everyone on board anyway. Finally, neon orange is a fugly color to be making planes in.
Minny Sky	Posted - 2008.12.04 17:53:00 - [21] just an analogy and a poor one at that - everyone gets the point though, sorta Originally by: Emalyn Throsar ok I'll bight... 1) Material. No Engine currently operated can keep a plane made from hardened steel in the air. 2) Cost. Not ethical and explanes itself. 3) Impact. It makes NO Difference what the plane is made from. Kinetic energy of an impact would kill everyone on board anyway. Finally, neon orange is a fugly color to be making planes in.
Grarr Dexx Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.12.04 18:14:00 - [22] http://www-304.ibm.com/shop/americas/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/default/CategoryDisplay?categoryId=4611686018425221755&storeId=1&catalogId=-840&langId=-1 Times 5542, even for the completely empty systems. -----
Noriko Rei	Posted - 2008.12.04 18:21:00 - [23] Edited by: Noriko Rei on 04/12/2008 18:22:51 Originally by: Minny Sky Ok, so CCP has proven they can stick a node or two on one blade and get a nice fleet fight with upwards of 1000 people engaged without melting everything. It is time to make the entire plane out of the black box. Start adding more dedicated servers a few at a time to 0.0 until the place can handle anything. The problem, I am sure, is financial resources. It would probably cost a fortune to start setting up eve the way it should be setup, but hey.. I know there are peolpe at CCP that want to start doing this. Make it happen. Thanks Have you ever looked at EVE's population distribution? A small percentage of the pilot population lives in 0.0, and most systems aren't under too much stress most of the time. CCP's current approach toward improving the only situation under which 0.0 experiences serious load - fleet fights - is balanced and cost-effective. It would likely be wiser to put major trade hubs and high-traffic mission areas permanently on dedicated upgraded hardware before trying to migrate all of that empty 0.0 space to the "supernodes."
Sikozu Prioris Serenity Engineering and Transport Company Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2008.12.04 18:47:00 - [24] Originally by: Minny Sky Ok, so CCP has proven they can stick a node or two on one blade and get a nice fleet fight with upwards of 1000 people engaged without melting everything. It is time to make the entire plane out of the black box. Start adding more dedicated servers a few at a time to 0.0 until the place can handle anything. The problem, I am sure, is financial resources. It would probably cost a fortune to start setting up eve the way it should be setup, but hey.. I know there are peolpe at CCP that want to start doing this. Make it happen. Thanks Watch this Link /thread end

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