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Jaden Brock Counter-Addiction Industries	Posted - 2008.12.02 03:12:00 - [1] From my understanding, I completely chose the wrong Dread to train for. Everyone says it is the worst of the 4. I have to accept that. Done...accepted. Can anyone give me a fitting for it? Also, what do I need to train to get the best out of it? I can jump in and fly it now, but I am talking about getting the most out of it.
Neyro7830 Gallente Stormfront A.W. Stormfront J.U.N.T.A.	Posted - 2008.12.02 03:20:00 - [2] F R E A K I N G V E R T I C A L ___ I cannot be held responsible for the above post, because apparently,my cat has learned to type. :3
Jaden Brock Counter-Addiction Industries	Posted - 2008.12.02 03:29:00 - [3] I understand that....now. Any thoughts?
vostok Minmatar Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.12.02 04:00:00 - [4] BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! - Adaptation is not* an excuse for lack of ballance!* -
SharpMango 14th Legion	Posted - 2008.12.02 04:01:00 - [5] heh its part of the joy in training minmatar. the other races laugh, but hey, we do what we do! but yeah, i know nothing of naglfars... so heres just what i dug up from battleclinic http://www.battleclinic.com/forum/index.php/topic,28641.0.html a loadout to get u started/ponder on.
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis	Posted - 2008.12.02 04:27:00 - [6] [Naglfar, New Setup 1] Capital Armor Repairer I Capital Armor Repairer I Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Explosive Hardener II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, EMP XL Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, EMP XL Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Thor Torpedo I Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Thor Torpedo I Siege Module I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Could swap a mid or too for anything else you'd want. *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Jaden Brock Counter-Addiction Industries	Posted - 2008.12.02 04:59:00 - [7] Thanks for the fits. What secondary skills do you all suggest? Like I said, I have the skills to jump in and fly thing thing. But not necessarily fly it well. What so you all think?
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis	Posted - 2008.12.02 05:19:00 - [8] Originally by: Jaden Brock Thanks for the fits. What secondary skills do you all suggest? Like I said, I have the skills to jump in and fly thing thing. But not necessarily fly it well. What so you all think? All the basic support skills to V (cap, targeting, fitting, drones, blah blah) Capital Projectiles/ Citadel Torps Capital armor tank Siege mod Jump skills *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Felix Dzerzhinsky Caldari Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.12.02 06:00:00 - [9] spend the extra 60 mil to train for a new dread - I would suggest the Moros. as for fittings on a nag - there is the full damage setup and the tanky setup. Tanky: 2x capital armor repper 3x Ammatar Navy EANM (or equiv.) <trrain your armor comps to 5> 1x DCU II - 5x Cap Recharger II -- 2x Quad Arti 2x Citadel 1x Siege -- 3x CCC Ganky (not recommended for most situations) 1x Cap repper 2x BCU II 2x Gyro II 1x DCU II -- 4x Cap recharger II 1x SB II -- 2x Quad Arti (ACs have their uses. . .but not really) 2x Citadel 1x siege mode. -- 3x Trimarks ---- ECCM is a Counter-measure not a defense.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.12.02 06:51:00 - [10] It's hit and miss with the Naglfar.. but if you're using it in a Hotdrop role go with the Shield tank/Damage setup... The armor tank setup DPS sucks (in dread terms) I still think it's sexy ------------ Originally by: Nexus Kinnon I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>

Poena Loveless Minmatar Dawn of a new Empire	Posted - 2008.12.02 08:05:00 - [11] Edited by: Poena Loveless on 02/12/2008 08:18:26 Just go with buffer tank in fleet.. you are the weakest link, you will be primary, you will die in cap v cap warfare-- might as well push out the damage as long as you can. [Naglfar, Fleet CQB/Hotdrop (Poena)] Damage Control II Armor Explosive Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Capital Armor Repairer I Shadow Serpentis Sensor Booster, Scan Resolution ECCM - Ladar II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, EMP XL Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Thor Torpedo I Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Thor Torpedo I Siege Module I Anti-Explosive Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Garde II x5 runs rep for almost 7 minutes in siege, i dun quite understand the dual rep setups, maybe people are thinking solo? I dunno. Really, with the exception of Dread vs Dread/solo 1v1 its the matchup and not a second rep that determines who lives and who dies
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.12.02 10:26:00 - [12] Edited by: Vaal Erit on 02/12/2008 10:31:46 Edit: AHAHAHAHAHA, poster above me has an ECCM fit, an ECCM on a dread, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Learn2dread. This is how real men fit their Nagl fraggles: [Naglfar, New Setup 1] Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Capital Shield Booster I Siege Module I Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, EMP XL Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, EMP XL Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Thor Torpedo I Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Thor Torpedo I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Curator II x5 2 Mil effective HP, shield booster doesn't last long but it will rep 10,000 raw dps so a minute of that will give you 600k more hp. Blue pill (pray for no side effects) and overload can top 20,000 raw dps tanked for those situations where you know you are going down. Should spit out about 3000 DPS as well. It's so crazy that it works. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.12.02 10:32:00 - [13] Originally by: Vaal Erit This is how real men fit their Nagl fraggles: [Naglfar, New Setup 1] Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Capital Shield Booster I Siege Module I Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, EMP XL Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, EMP XL Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Thor Torpedo I Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Thor Torpedo I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Curator II x5 2 Mil effective HP, shield booster doesn't last long but it will rep 10,000 raw dps so a minute of that will give you 600k more hp. Blue pill (pray for no side effects) and overload can top 20,000 raw dps tanked for those situations where you know you are going down. Should spit out about 3000 DPS as well. It's so crazy that it works. Thats nice!...Doesnt seem like such a bad ship to me now... _________________________________________________
Nihi Li'aldoko	Posted - 2008.12.02 10:42:00 - [14] [Naglfar, Fleet] Shield Flux Coil II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Capital Armor Repairer I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II X-Large Shield Booster II Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, EMP XL Heavy Nosferatu II Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Best fit I've used so far. Really nice tank and you can shoot stuff at different ranges with the separte launchers and guns.
BiggestT Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works	Posted - 2008.12.02 11:19:00 - [15] Edited by: BiggestT on 02/12/2008 11:20:30 Edited by: BiggestT on 02/12/2008 11:19:42 Remeber that cit. torps dont suck as much anymore, so the nag was slightly buffed with QR.. edit: Plz ignore the above setup in case they arent actually trolling 2nd edit: oh i see a shield tank, it was an obvious troll nvm lol. EVE history t2 precisions
Walker Bulldog VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD	Posted - 2008.12.02 11:49:00 - [16] Plates on a dread, of course it's a troll...
Sonorra Baki Interstellar eXodus Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.02 12:10:00 - [17] This thread delivers utter fail This may not be work safe -Capsicum
Felix Dzerzhinsky Caldari Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.12.02 12:11:00 - [18] the nag sucks so much. . .just ask people who fly it. ---- ECCM is a Counter-measure not a defense.
Gnomes Rock	Posted - 2008.12.02 12:12:00 - [19] Originally by: Nihi Li'aldoko [Naglfar, Fleet] Shield Flux Coil II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Capital Armor Repairer I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II X-Large Shield Booster II Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, EMP XL Heavy Nosferatu II Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Best fit I've used so far. Really nice tank and you can shoot stuff at different ranges with the separte launchers and guns. I'll have to agree with this setup, it's petty awesome. Always nice to see some innovation that leads to ownage.
Afale II Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2008.12.02 12:16:00 - [20] Originally by: Neyro7830 F R E A K I N G V E R T I C A L

Aion Amarra Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.12.02 12:23:00 - [21] Originally by: Neyro7830 F R E A K I N G V E R T I C A L The more often I see this, the more I think there also needs to be a capship that is FREAKING HORIZONTAL. Think about it. The closest we get to a horizontal ship is the catalyst. And that's too small to count.
Walker Bulldog VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD	Posted - 2008.12.02 12:33:00 - [22] Flat ships are dime a dozen, but only Naglfar and Myrmidon are vertical :)
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2008.12.02 12:36:00 - [23] Ah but flat as in left to right, catalyst-style, that's cool. Gimme more flying-wing-style ships pls :D
Rajere No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.02 12:59:00 - [24] Edited by: Rajere on 02/12/2008 13:00:56 Originally by: madaluap Originally by: Vaal Erit This is how real men fit their Nagl fraggles: [Naglfar, New Setup 1] Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Capital Shield Booster I Siege Module I Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, EMP XL Quad 3500mm Siege Artillery I, EMP XL Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Thor Torpedo I Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Thor Torpedo I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Curator II x5 2 Mil effective HP, shield booster doesn't last long but it will rep 10,000 raw dps so a minute of that will give you 600k more hp. Blue pill (pray for no side effects) and overload can top 20,000 raw dps tanked for those situations where you know you are going down. Should spit out about 3000 DPS as well. It's so crazy that it works. Thats nice!...Doesnt seem like such a bad ship to me now... too much tank, not enough gank imho. If you're hotdropping your hotdropping, don't be a p#$sy and gank with some style brosef. If you get counter-hotdropped you're going to die, if you don't, you don't need all that EHP anyway. people don't hotdrop with less than overkill anyway. [Naglfar, GankFit] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Co-Processor II Capital Shield Booster I Invulnerability Field II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Guristas Doom Torpedo I Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Guristas Doom Torpedo I 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL Siege Module I Projectile Burst Aerator I Projectile Collision Accelerator I [empty rig slot] Ogre II x5 only problem with gank nag is you don't have point/webs, but one of the other caps should have that taken care of. 6057 DPS with max skills without implants. nearly 7k with hardwirings. The fight either ends with you at 100% cap ready for the cyno just as soon as siege finishes or it ends when all your dreads die, you first. -------------------------- NOTR
Aion Amarra Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.12.02 13:17:00 - [25] Originally by: keepiru Ah but flat as in left to right, catalyst-style, that's cool. Gimme more flying-wing-style ships pls :D Exactly, that's what I meant. I guess the main reason for there not being more ships like that is the game physics engine, though. Ships spin on their vertical axis, so I dunno how much a large catalyst-like ship would 'flap' it's 'wings' around when turning. Doesn't change that more wingships would be nice, though. I really like 'wing-only' designs.


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