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Lady Vorax
Amarr
Infusion.
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:14:00 -
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teh **** in teh title has happend to me 3 times now, last time we had a ark tackled on a 0.0 gate. He logged off and the ship dissapeard whitin 1 minute of logging.
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Jack Gilligan
Dragon's Rage
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:17:00 -
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I believe this happens if they have not aggressed (ie: shot you) and aren't in a warp bubble or warp scrambled.
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Hatt0ri Hanz0
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:18:00 -
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 Originally by: Lady Vorax
teh **** in teh title has happend to me 3 times now, last time we had a ark tackled on a 0.0 gate. He logged off and the ship dissapeard whitin 1 minute of logging.
Want some whine with that cheese?
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Dihania
Gallente
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:18:00 -
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What if he logged off and then logged on on the same account to one of his alts ? This was a problem at some point, perhaps it was never fixed.
Join "join sniggwaffe" in game. Good Service! |
RaTTuS
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:19:00 -
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WAI
- he dropped before you tackled - what you need to do is have a cloaked ship on the gate and when he appears warp the fleet in
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Sleepkevert
Amarr
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dihania
What if he logged off and then logged on on the same account to one of his alts ? This was a problem at some point, perhaps it was never fixed.
Also never confirmed. But, if you log off while cloaked. You can't be agressed before you'r logged of, so you'll dissappear within 1 minute regardless of what happens.
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Lady Vorax
Amarr
Infusion.
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:20:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Vorax on 02/12/2008 15:20:59
Originally by: Hatt0ri Hanz0
Originally by: Lady Vorax
teh **** in teh title has happend to me 3 times now, last time we had a ark tackled on a 0.0 gate. He logged off and the ship dissapeard whitin 1 minute of logging.
Want some whine with that cheese?
yep please. and we had it tackled...
edit: he logged after tackle. only seen it happen after last patch..
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RaTTuS
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dihania
What if he logged off and then logged on on the same account to one of his alts ? This was a problem at some point, perhaps it was never fixed.
he'll still stay in space - that was fixed years ago
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Bohoba
Caldari
HolyKnights
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:22:00 -
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more DPS is needed to kill under 1 min :) get out of them nano ships into a real ship hehehe
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10.5 hours a day do you have what it takes ?
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Lady Vorax
Amarr
Infusion.
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Vorax on 02/12/2008 15:32:41
also had this shti with a rattign raven..... but this 1 really is ****ty becuase it whas an ARK!!!!!!!
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Faife
Noctiscion
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Vorax
edit: he logged after tackle. only seen it happen after last patch..
he logged after jumping while still jump cloaked. you tackled a logged out ship. well done.
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Rico Tubbs
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Bohoba
more DPS is needed to kill under 1 min :) get out of them nano ships into a real ship hehehe
A useful reply, thanks for adding such a sterling insight to the thread. BTW, seems you didn't get the memo about Quantum Rise and nano ships.
The OP's choice of ship is not the issue, dude. The issue is he seems to have aggroed someone, who then logged off and did not remain in space for the 15 minutes he should have done.
Bug or exploit? I don't know why this happens, but I see a couple of threads a week about similar incidents.
The whole "log on an alt on the same account" thing that everyone always brings up in these threads worked for a very short period of time, a long time ago, and has been fixed for ages.
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TheEndofTheWorld
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:39:00 -
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I have been playing this game for 3 years. It has been an issue/bug/exploit ever since.
There is no excuse for not fixing this, in fact CCP has even boosted the logoffski method for bigger ships.
repeat after me
CCP does not care.
CCP does not care.
CCP does not care.
CCP does not care.
CCP does not care.
CCP does not care.
CCP does not care.
Good, now say it yourself.
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Lady Vorax
Amarr
Infusion.
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
Originally by: Lady Vorax
edit: he logged after tackle. only seen it happen after last patch..
he logged after jumping while still jump cloaked. you tackled a logged out ship. well done.
no, am not a idiot (well not a big 1) was a legit tackle and he shoud be dead now.
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Sawce
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:40:00 -
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Remember that if he jumps into another system, his aggression is gone instantly and he can logoffski instantly instead of having to wait 15minutes. |
Darkmist Starpain
The Serpent Isle
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: Darkmist Starpain on 02/12/2008 15:40:26
Originally by: Faife
he logged after jumping while still jump cloaked. you tackled a logged out ship. well done.
This.
The ignorance of the OP is hilarious. If someone knows the game mechanics better than you it doesn't mean they're haxploiting. It just means they're better than you.
Better luck next time.
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Sawce
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Darkmist Starpain
Originally by: Faife
he logged after jumping while still jump cloaked. you tackled a logged out ship. well done.
This.
The ignorance of the OP is hilarious. If someone knows the game mechanics better than you it doesn't mean they're haxploiting. It just means they're better than you.
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Khanid Helions
Infusion.
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:46:00 -
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We jump in with the ark, re approached gate, the pilots name was still in local chat right till he uncloaked, i was too busy locking it and pointing to notice when exactly his name dissappeared.
This has only happened a few times to me but the other previous times their names left local long long looonnnng before they decloaked. Just wondering if there is a delay or whatnot.
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Lady Vorax
Amarr
Infusion.
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:47:00 -
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readign problems? we had him taclked and engaged... checking local for his buddys.... left local after he got a bit into armor....
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Hatt0ri Hanz0
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Posted - 2008.12.02 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Vorax
readign problems? we had him taclked and engaged... checking local for his buddys.... left local after he got a bit into armor....
Gawd your stupid. It doesn't matter if you had him tackled and engaged. He logged before you engaged him. Lame or not there is no bug here.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Rage of Inferno
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Posted - 2008.12.02 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Darkmist Starpain
Edited by: Darkmist Starpain on 02/12/2008 15:40:26
Originally by: Faife
he logged after jumping while still jump cloaked. you tackled a logged out ship. well done.
This.
The ignorance of the OP is hilarious. If someone knows the game mechanics better than you it doesn't mean they're haxploiting. It just means they're better than you.
Better luck next time.
Its a bull**** mechanic and i bet youd be as ****ed when loosing out on a freighter kill because of it.
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Lady Vorax
Amarr
Infusion.
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Posted - 2008.12.02 16:04:00 -
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get this in your skull if possible, we had eye in local, he logged after we had him taclked.... fact end of discussion there.
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Hatt0ri Hanz0
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Posted - 2008.12.02 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Vorax
get this in your skull if possible, we had eye in local, he logged after we had him taclked.... fact end of discussion there.
by all means, enlighten us on how you knew he hadn't logged yet? You could lock him, scramble him, and even get him into structure, but if he all of a sudden disappears, then he logged before you agressed him. Thats the only way to know if somebody logged before/after agression...period.... fact end of discussion. moron.
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Sawce
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Posted - 2008.12.02 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Hatt0ri Hanz0
by all means, enlighten us on how you knew he hadn't logged yet? You could lock him, scramble him, and even get him into structure, but if he all of a sudden disappears, then he logged before you agressed him. Thats the only way to know if somebody logged before/after agression...period.... fact end of discussion. moron.
When they log they disappear from local straight away.
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Darth Felin
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Posted - 2008.12.02 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sawce
Originally by: Hatt0ri Hanz0
by all means, enlighten us on how you knew he hadn't logged yet? You could lock him, scramble him, and even get him into structure, but if he all of a sudden disappears, then he logged before you agressed him. Thats the only way to know if somebody logged before/after agression...period.... fact end of discussion. moron.
When they log they disappear from local straight away.
It is not always so, sometimes local can lag.
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.12.02 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sawce
Originally by: Hatt0ri Hanz0
by all means, enlighten us on how you knew he hadn't logged yet? You could lock him, scramble him, and even get him into structure, but if he all of a sudden disappears, then he logged before you agressed him. Thats the only way to know if somebody logged before/after agression...period.... fact end of discussion. moron.
When they log they disappear from local straight away.
No, they dont.
It often lags a fair bit, and as i've found if your on grid with someone, can take 10 seconds to half a minute for them to dissapear, i've tested it with my own alts.
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Faife
Noctiscion
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Posted - 2008.12.02 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Faife on 02/12/2008 16:35:53
you don't disappear from local right away, you disappear from local when your tcp/ip socket dies. this can be as long as 180 seconds (3 minutes) (EDIT: or as soon as few seconds)
i've had alts talk at my main in local for extended periods of time before
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Captain Thunk
Captain Morgan Society
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Posted - 2008.12.02 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dihania
What if he logged off and then logged on on the same account to one of his alts ? This was a problem at some point, perhaps it was never fixed.
That was fixed.
He logs off before you put an aggression timer on him. If he's not dead in 1 minute then he disappears and is saved.
A long time ago, people of a certain nationality were accused of doing this - which they probably were doing - but since then the accusers actually thought it was a cool idea and now do it themselves - worst part about that is, I can't read Russian, but I can read the English smack bandied about when they log back in, they're usually rather proud of themselves with their hotskillz. Every major alliance has logged on me at some point. To be honest, I'm used to it now.
It isn't ever going to be fixed, Ironically CCP claim it's not to punish the legitimate disconnects that occur from time to time, although this has never happened to me. Every time I've had a disconnect I've already had an aggression timer so stuck around for the full 15 minutes and died as a result.
For freighters you need a neutral alt to aggro first (except in 0.0, where you'll need an alt with blue standings to the pilot). Put the timer on by aggroing with the alt then bring in your main - it's a lot of effort, maybe more worth your while to just make friends with the pilot and scam him out of everything he owns instead. Quicker. Easier. Less likely to hit barriers placed by CCP.
Captain Thunk
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2008.12.02 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Vorax
get this in your skull if possible, we had eye in local, he logged after we had him taclked.... fact end of discussion there.
Local is not always instantaneous.... There can be several seconds delay...
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.12.02 18:57:00 -
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Kill him faster and stop whining, jesus christ.
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