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W0t0n Kill4
Ruthless Aggression Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2008.12.02 20:30:00 -
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I'm building a Excel calculator for refining to add to my MEGA INDUSTRY spreadsheets and I'm having doubts about the formula I am using...
The Original Recipe: [Station Equipment] + 0.375 x (1 + [Refining Skill] x 0.02) x (1 + [Refinery Efficiency Skill] x 0.04) x (1 + [Ore Processing Skill] x 0.05)
Calculating for Implants: [Station Equipment] + 0.375 x (1 + [Refining Skill] x 0.02) x (1 + [Refinery Efficiency Skill] x 0.04) x (1 + [Ore Processing Skill] x 0.05) x (1 + [Implant Bonus])
Here's the dilema... With the 3 skills at Level 5, the best implant (+.04), and 50% station services I get 114.4% yield... which doesn't seem right to me, since I've never seen that number anywhere. Without the implant, the yield is 111.9% (which I've seen on the EvE Complete Mining Guide). Am I on the right track? Also, does .375 represent best standing or is it an arbitrary number CCP plucked from the sky?
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Argendta
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Posted - 2008.12.02 21:10:00 -
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I'm not a miner, but I always thought, that you get 100% top, and that's that. You don't refine to more than 100%, period. Was I wrong?
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Morgan Lorus
Caldari Unstable Reaction Inc. North Domain Defense Forces
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Posted - 2008.12.02 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: W0t0n Kill4 Here's the dilema... With the 3 skills at Level 5, the best implant (+.04), and 50% station services I get 114.4% yield... which doesn't seem right to me,
there are station with less then 50%, 0.0-Refineries for example. ANd also High-Sec NPC-Stations with 35%.
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Karanth
Gallente Independent Fleet Space Exploration and Logistic Services
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Posted - 2008.12.03 01:31:00 -
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There are highsec stations with 32% refining too, and the outpost upgrades can give you refineries of 10%, 20%, 40%...
There are more than just the 50% stations, and a lot of them too.
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Lord Fitz
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Posted - 2008.12.03 04:57:00 -
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Originally by: Morgan Lorus
Originally by: W0t0n Kill4 Here's the dilema... With the 3 skills at Level 5, the best implant (+.04), and 50% station services I get 114.4% yield... which doesn't seem right to me,
there are station with less then 50%, 0.0-Refineries for example. ANd also High-Sec NPC-Stations with 35%.
NPC stations in empire are 30% or 50%, with the 30% stations, even with max skills / implants / standing, you can not get 100%.
0.0 Refinery outposts are 35% by default, but can be upgraded to 40% 45% or 50%. Many are upgraded to 40% as that's the first where you can get 100% (with either max skills or almost max skills + an implant).
Obviously you never get more than 100%. _____________________________
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Sable Moran
Gallente Moran Light Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.03 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: W0t0n Kill4 Also, does .375 represent best standing or is it an arbitrary number CCP plucked from the sky?
It is an arbitrary number, sometimes referred to as the refining constant. ----- Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene 5, Moon 4, Duvolle Laboratories Factory. Ammo at affordable prices. |
W0t0n Kill4
Ruthless Aggression Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2008.12.05 14:35:00 -
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Ok, Thanks you guys for your help. I wanted to address the discussion about station equipment, I used 50% to simulate the best case scenario, I am aware of the range, and there are other options (between 30-50) already built into the calculator.
I had one more question to ask. On page 17 of the Miner Guide it shows refine percentages over 100%. Is that the literal calculation, and when applied in game, is actually capped at only 100% no matter if it says 114%?
Thought I read somewhere that if your skills were high enough that you could have over 100%
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Morgan Lorus
Caldari Unstable Reaction Inc. North Domain Defense Forces
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Posted - 2008.12.05 14:44:00 -
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100% is the cap
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Clansworth
Burning Sky Labs Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.12.05 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: W0t0n Kill4 I'm building a Excel calculator for refining to add to my MEGA INDUSTRY spreadsheets and I'm having doubts about the formula I am using...
The Original Recipe: [Station Equipment] + 0.375 x (1 + [Refining Skill] x 0.02) x (1 + [Refinery Efficiency Skill] x 0.04) x (1 + [Ore Processing Skill] x 0.05)
Calculating for Implants: [Station Equipment] + 0.375 x (1 + [Refining Skill] x 0.02) x (1 + [Refinery Efficiency Skill] x 0.04) x (1 + [Ore Processing Skill] x 0.05) x (1 + [Implant Bonus])
Here's the dilema... With the 3 skills at Level 5, the best implant (+.04), and 50% station services I get 114.4% yield... which doesn't seem right to me, since I've never seen that number anywhere. Without the implant, the yield is 111.9% (which I've seen on the EvE Complete Mining Guide). Am I on the right track? Also, does .375 represent best standing or is it an arbitrary number CCP plucked from the sky?
Also realize, that if you are going by the number that is shown on the top of the refining screen, that is WITHOUT the specific Ore processing skill.
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