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Neth'Rae Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.04 13:48:00 - [31] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Must be. 'cause A: It's around 50km away(if even that) and B: If that was a tachyon beam, it would cover the whole city, not just one orc. And to be hoest, those lasers could NEVER track a humanoid Well, if you're refering to my picture then I'll have to say those are small energy turrets, since it wouldn't be any sport with anything bigger.. Also, the people in orgrimmar are just standing afk showing of their epic armours anyways, so they're basically stationary targets and impossible to miss :P
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.12.04 13:59:00 - [32] Originally by: Neth'Rae Well, if you're refering to my picture then I'll have to say those are small energy turrets, since it wouldn't be any sport with anything bigger.. Also, the people in orgrimmar are just standing afk showing of their epic armours anyways, so they're basically stationary targets and impossible to miss :P Referring to that yes Small energy turrets still are large enough to engulf half a boeing 747 (+-frigate), those beams are orc sized. Also, people OUTSIDE orgrimmar are dueling if not going in/out of orgrimamr, so they are very motioned indeed. Hitting those people outside orgrimmar wouldbe like trying to hit a needle from space with a laserpointer. With the needle being on the roof of a rallycar
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.12.04 14:08:00 - [33] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Hitting those people outside orgrimmar wouldbe like trying to hit a needle from space with a laserpointer. With the needle being on the roof of a rallycar So... What you're saying is Cruise Missiles should be a better choice? The blast radius of one of those babies would probably wipe Azeroth off the map...
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.12.04 14:14:00 - [34] Originally by: Reven Cordelle Originally by: Sheriff Jones Hitting those people outside orgrimmar wouldbe like trying to hit a needle from space with a laserpointer. With the needle being on the roof of a rallycar So... What you're saying is Cruise Missiles should be a better choice? The blast radius of one of those babies would probably wipe Azeroth off the map... Try stacking up Thermal resistance (re-entry) and dropping Javelin Torpedoes. Several megatonnes of warhead each should be fun.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.12.04 14:18:00 - [35] Originally by: Reven Cordelle Originally by: Sheriff Jones Hitting those people outside orgrimmar wouldbe like trying to hit a needle from space with a laserpointer. With the needle being on the roof of a rallycar So... What you're saying is Cruise Missiles should be a better choice? The blast radius of one of those babies would probably wipe Azeroth off the map... Aye, missiles would work better for bombardment. Actually bombers would work best for bombardment Still would be a b*tch with all them invulnerabilities and such. Imagine fear on a battleship
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.12.04 14:27:00 - [36] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Reven Cordelle Originally by: Sheriff Jones Hitting those people outside orgrimmar wouldbe like trying to hit a needle from space with a laserpointer. With the needle being on the roof of a rallycar So... What you're saying is Cruise Missiles should be a better choice? The blast radius of one of those babies would probably wipe Azeroth off the map... Aye, missiles would work better for bombardment. Actually bombers would work best for bombardment Still would be a b*tch with all them invulnerabilities and such. Imagine fear on a battleship How would neuts work? Drain Mana? Mana = Cap? OH GOD THE SIMILARITIES.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.12.04 14:28:00 - [37] Originally by: Reven Cordelle OH GOD THE SIMILARITIES. Don't make me go there, it might destroy EVEs illusion
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.12.04 14:35:00 - [38] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Small energy turrets still are large enough to engulf half a boeing 747 (+-frigate), those beams are orc sized. think you might have the scale a bit off, there. 1: Small energy turrets don't "engulf" the ship. Even large beams don't manage that. What they do is, they hit part of it. 2: Frigates are the same size as a 747, not twice the size. The way I think of it is this - a small railgun is 125mm - that's roughly the same size as the main gun on a Challenger tank. that round is still only about as thick as a human arm, but the blast from a railgun appears to be about as thick as the beam from a small laser, so for a beam to completely engulf a six-foot person like that, it'd need to be at least medium-sized.
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.12.04 14:37:00 - [39] Originally by: Stitcher 1: Small energy turrets don't "engulf" the ship. Even large beams don't manage that. What they do is, they hit part of it. And its always the same point OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.12.04 14:38:00 - [40] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 04/12/2008 14:38:27 Originally by: Stitcher Originally by: Sheriff Jones Small energy turrets still are large enough to engulf half a boeing 747 (+-frigate), those beams are orc sized. think you might have the scale a bit off, there. 1: Small energy turrets don't "engulf" the ship. Even large beams don't manage that. What they do is, they hit part of it. 2: Frigates are the same size as a 747, not twice the size. 1: The beam is still large enough to fit the size i said. 2: I said that. Comparing projectiles and beams doesn't work. The fact is, small beams(even how ridicilous on those on an abaddon) are not the size of humanoids.
Irish Whiskey Caldari Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.12.04 20:58:00 - [41] wow you guys really need to get outside. where is the satisfaction in winning a conversation like this?
Arianhod	Posted - 2008.12.04 21:01:00 - [42] Anyone mind if I just Bump a freighter at 5kps into the crust of the planet? Or does that win too much? Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Haruhiists - Supporting Linkification since 2008
Northern Fall Minmatar Guild Navy	Posted - 2008.12.04 21:17:00 - [43] Quite frankly i think minmatar ships should be able to enter the atmosphere easily because essientially: they're made out of office chairs and fire extinguishers (or fireworks, if your rich)
Liranan M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.12.04 23:18:00 - [44] Originally by: Nikita Alterana Operation Overfail has started The Goons managed to kill their own faction leader, come back when you've managed something like that. Farjung is my God You people need to open your eyes and read threads before you mindlessly spam the New Thread link.
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council.	Posted - 2008.12.05 04:46:00 - [45] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: Captain Falcord Originally by: Reven Cordelle Oh snap, you know ships in EVE can't enter an oxygen atmosphere right? Oh snap, you know that in the QR trailer there was 2 seconds of planetary combat footage, with a ship shooting at the planet's surface right? oh snap you did know the ship shooting on the planet was a galennte fighter jet that can't enter space right? and it's shooting at tanks. oh snap, you people do konw that other minerals are used in the construction of our beloved spaceships right? things like mexallon, isogen, pyerite, ect maybe they mix that into the tritanium ore / liquid metal tritanium to make them possible to fly in an atmosphere cmon people, use a bit of imagination Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council.	Posted - 2008.12.05 04:55:00 - [46] Originally by: Stitcher Originally by: Sheriff Jones Small energy turrets still are large enough to engulf half a boeing 747 (+-frigate), those beams are orc sized. think you might have the scale a bit off, there. 1: Small energy turrets don't "engulf" the ship. Even large beams don't manage that. What they do is, they hit part of it. 2: Frigates are the same size as a 747, not twice the size. The way I think of it is this - a small railgun is 125mm - that's roughly the same size as the main gun on a Challenger tank. that round is still only about as thick as a human arm, but the blast from a railgun appears to be about as thick as the beam from a small laser, so for a beam to completely engulf a six-foot person like that, it'd need to be at least medium-sized. hey, i think railguns are still more powerful though now, imagine a 425mm railgun, thats almost a 1.5 foot round, or 14-16 inches thats a big bullet and imagine it slamming into a ship at like 20miles per second and imagine if it was a sabot round pure awesome Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
Daelorn Perkone	Posted - 2008.12.05 05:19:00 - [47] Yea, who cares, lets get back to kill Dwarfs
Liranan M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.12.05 05:44:00 - [48] Now imagine said railguns filled with Uranium and Plutonium, they'll not only be able to see their way better around those dungeons but also hack and slash better with the third leg they will grow out of their foreheads. Failing that a Dread with some Citadel Torps will always put them out of their misery. Farjung is my God You people need to open your eyes and read threads before you mindlessly spam the New Thread link.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.12.05 07:27:00 - [49] Originally by: Reven Cordelle Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Reven Cordelle Yeaaah but only 8 can ever fire at once. Maybe that's just in space? But yeah, abaddon does have juice to fire 16 tachyons. Also, at that range and size(relative to orc), i believe those are civilian lasers Noob fit abaddon?! I wonder if it has a hull repairer on it. Nah, he honor tanked it with 3 expanded cargo 2's.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Ninjas N Pirates	Posted - 2008.12.05 08:08:00 - [50] But what if someone has an epic mount! They'll be killing us 280% more!
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.12.05 08:10:00 - [51] Originally by: Liranan Now imagine said railguns filled with Uranium and Plutonium, they'll not only be able to see their way better around those dungeons but also hack and slash better with the third leg they will grow out of their foreheads. Failing that a Dread with some Citadel Torps will always put them out of their misery. personally, a 16 inch canister full of anti-matter would probably be a bit more effective than that or even a dread version so 1000mm (or roughly 36 inch). Firing a fridge full of anti-matter into anything is bound to get messy.
Saju Somtaaw Gallente Department of Defence	Posted - 2008.12.05 15:42:00 - [52] Awww, why not just let us miners put that planet to good use by mining it out from under them? Sure, the unlucky idiots who don't get to help won't be able to make a profit from mining for a while, but than again neither will the macro'ers. ---- --- --- Devs Sign Here; GMs and ISD welcome to :)
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.12.05 16:27:00 - [53] Originally by: Saju Somtaaw Awww, why not just let us miners put that planet to good use by mining it out from under them? Sure, the unlucky idiots who don't get to help won't be able to make a profit from mining for a while, but than again neither will the macro'ers. You can always mine the chunks after we finish blowing it to pieces. I wonder how many 1000mm AM shells you'd need to crack a planet.
Straight Chillen Gallente Solar Wind	Posted - 2008.12.05 16:31:00 - [54] This looks like a job for a smarti Domi, Got the smart bomb's and heavy/sentrys for destroying cities, and the lights for chasing down dude riding unicorns Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
ThaMa Gebir Gallente Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2008.12.05 16:34:00 - [55] Originally by: Reven Cordelle Edited by: Reven Cordelle on 04/12/2008 10:35:58 Originally by: ZinderX500 Originally by: Reven Cordelle Oh snap, you know ships in EVE can't enter an oxygen atmosphere right? WHY Originally by: EVE Item DB Tritanium - The main building block in space structures. A very hard, yet bendable metal. Cannot be used in human habitats due to its instability at atmospheric temperatures. Very common throughout the world. Alright so perhaps not even an Oxygen atmosphere, just atmosphere in general. Common knowledge for anyone that plays EVE, also CCPs excuse for ignoring pleas for Atmospheric Flight. Ok, what about steel, non stainless? It corrodes in a regular athmosphere. That's a bit unstable isn't it? ---------------------------- Confirmed heaviest member of RDEX........ Hah, no more hijacks here!!!!
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.12.05 20:54:00 - [56] I dont have the link, but I remember a map showing that one of the larger Officer smart bombs could just about cover all the major land masses on both WoW worlds. But no worry if they can't cover everything, then you'd just need to move a little bit. Play nice while you butcher each other.
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.12.05 20:57:00 - [57] Originally by: Meiyang Lee Originally by: Crumplecorn ITT: Tritanium is the only material in ship construction. well, yes that too... Bit unstable in atmospheres isn't it? Guess orbital sniping is the best solution. Actually, that is what paint is for:) No Joke. In the U.S. Air Force, base maintainence includes a number of professions. The piant shop is offically called "Corrosion Control" (although most folks call it the paint shop). Play nice while you butcher each other.
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2008.12.06 00:45:00 - [58] Originally by: Reven Cordelle Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Reven Cordelle Yeaaah but only 8 can ever fire at once. Maybe that's just in space? But yeah, abaddon does have juice to fire 16 tachyons. Also, at that range and size(relative to orc), i believe those are civilian lasers Noob fit abaddon?! I wonder if it has a hull repairer on it. And don't forget the T2 cargo expanders for all the loot. -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. All this has happened before and will happen again
Neth'Rae Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.06 01:57:00 - [59] Thread needs moar 'shops.
Thuranni B and D	Posted - 2008.12.06 05:27:00 - [60] Originally by: Stitcher Originally by: Sheriff Jones Small energy turrets still are large enough to engulf half a boeing 747 (+-frigate), those beams are orc sized. think you might have the scale a bit off, there. 1: Small energy turrets don't "engulf" the ship. Even large beams don't manage that. What they do is, they hit part of it. 2: Frigates are the same size as a 747, not twice the size. The way I think of it is this - a small railgun is 125mm - that's roughly the same size as the main gun on a Challenger tank. that round is still only about as thick as a human arm, but the blast from a railgun appears to be about as thick as the beam from a small laser, so for a beam to completely engulf a six-foot person like that, it'd need to be at least medium-sized. The beam itself might not be very thick, but it's power would probably be around the size of a decent nuclear explosion. Think about it - In eve, a howitzer firing a 280mm nuclear shell every few seconds is a relatively low powered weapon. This is what a 280mm nuclear howitzer looks like in real life. Now picture a 125mm shell loaded with antimatter and fired out of a railgun at several dozen times the speed of sound - The kinetic force alone would be enough to lay waste to a good few city blocks, and we don't even know how powerful the payload would be. Cruiser and battleship sized weapons would have absolutely absurd firepower. A lone battleship would be able to make a planet completely uninhabitable in a matter of hours.

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