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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente Trinity Council.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 05:43:00 -
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Originally by: Meiyang Lee
Originally by: Saju Somtaaw Awww, why not just let us miners put that planet to good use by mining it out from under them? Sure, the unlucky idiots who don't get to help won't be able to make a profit from mining for a while, but than again neither will the macro'ers.
You can always mine the chunks after we finish blowing it to pieces.  I wonder how many 1000mm AM shells you'd need to crack a planet. 
probably only one
i do recall from a looong time ago that they said something like a teaspoon of antimatter would pretty much like vaporize our planet
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2008.12.06 09:16:00 -
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Every time I see a POS I somehow think it's a fekkin' Pally bubbling like an idiot, and that every second now the POS can just dissapear as he HSed.
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Scott Ryder
Galactic Extensive Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.12.06 19:54:00 -
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Edited by: Scott Ryder on 06/12/2008 19:55:00
Originally by: Thuranni
The beam itself might not be very thick, but it's power would probably be around the size of a decent nuclear explosion. 
Think about it - In eve, a howitzer firing a 280mm nuclear shell every few seconds is a relatively low powered weapon.
This is what a 280mm nuclear howitzer looks like in real life.
Now picture a 125mm shell loaded with antimatter and fired out of a railgun at several dozen times the speed of sound - The kinetic force alone would be enough to lay waste to a good few city blocks, and we don't even know how powerful the payload would be.
Cruiser and battleship sized weapons would have absolutely absurd firepower. A lone battleship would be able to make a planet completely uninhabitable in a matter of hours.
But then again. Who would pay for it?
Quoted from wiki: Antimatter is said to be the most costly substance in existence, with an estimated cost of $6.25 x 10^10 per milligram.[12] This is because production is difficult (only a few atoms are produced in reactions in particle accelerators), and because there is higher demand for the other uses of particle accelerators. According to CERN, it has cost a few hundred million Swiss Francs to produce about 1 billionth of a gram.[13]
Im just saying, Its a tad expensive..
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Sila Fang
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.06 21:19:00 -
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1) put 100 cruise ravens 200km off the planetary surface. 2) add sensor boosters. 3) lay out a systematic carpet bombing of the world of warcraft. 4) scour the surace of the planet with gargantuan nuclear warheads. start with thermal to wipe out any life, the proceed to kinetic and explosive to do maximum beolgoical damage and cause a nuclear winter, then finish it all off with EM missiles, to make sure that it glows in the dark for the next million years.
or the more stylish option: crash an avatar titan headfirst into the planet.
wither way, we win and there is nothing WoW can do about it!
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Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.06 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Imagine a thread where simple humor can be warped into a game mechanic frag fest. Where the goal of attacking another game has backfired into an e-peen civil war and lines are drawn.
You have entered.....The Twilight Zone.
LOL now I've got the Twilight Zone tune stuck in my head! Damn you! >_< -
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.12.06 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 06/12/2008 22:26:30
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
Originally by: Meiyang Lee
Originally by: Saju Somtaaw Awww, why not just let us miners put that planet to good use by mining it out from under them? Sure, the unlucky idiots who don't get to help won't be able to make a profit from mining for a while, but than again neither will the macro'ers.
You can always mine the chunks after we finish blowing it to pieces.  I wonder how many 1000mm AM shells you'd need to crack a planet. 
probably only one
i do recall from a looong time ago that they said something like a teaspoon of antimatter would pretty much like vaporize our planet
Was doing the math for fun, only about 86 Megatonnes per shell*. No idea about the destructive effects, probably quite catastrophic. *(assuming a 1000mm shell has a 3 meter long casing and is filled for 85% with antimatter at 1kg/m3) It's ofcourse extremely efficient, only 2kg AM per shell doing that kind of damage, but still that's going to take a lot of rounds to crack a planets crust open.
Now i'm no physicist, so I certainly could be wrong. But the conversion is total I believe, so E=MC^2 should apply. Was quite surprised the yield came out this low though.
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quave
Caldari EPIC INC
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Posted - 2008.12.06 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Meiyang Lee Was doing the math for fun, only about 86 Megatonnes per shell*. No idea about the destructive effects, probably quite catastrophic. *(assuming a 1000mm shell has a 3 meter long casing and is filled for 85% with antimatter at 1kg/m3) It's ofcourse extremely efficient, only 2kg AM per shell doing that kind of damage, but still that's going to take a lot of rounds to crack a planets crust open.
Now i'm no physicist, so I certainly could be wrong. But the conversion is total I believe, so E=MC^2 should apply. Was quite surprised the yield came out this low though.
Hmm, I've never seen "only" and "86 megatonnes" in the same sentence before, just for a point of reference, i give you the king of the bombs 
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.12.06 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: quave
Hmm, I've never seen "only" and "86 megatonnes" in the same sentence before, just for a point of reference, i give you the king of the bombs 
Considering the person I quoted was talking about vaporising the planet with a teaspoon full, 86 Megatonnes is a bit on the low side yes. It'll leave a very big hole ofcourse, and fireball an area a couple hundred kilometres across, but it's hardly going to destroy a planet, now is it. 
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quave
Caldari EPIC INC
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Posted - 2008.12.06 22:48:00 -
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Edited by: quave on 06/12/2008 22:49:11 Oh sorry, i see what you are saying now, his expectations of AM was alot higher than your calculations showed, still more than enough to vapourise all the life in WoW though. I still think sending swarms of light drones down to surface would be more amusing to watch.
edited for spelling
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.12.06 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: quave Edited by: quave on 06/12/2008 22:49:11 Oh sorry, i see what you are saying now, his expectations of AM was alot higher than your calculations showed, still more than enough to vapourise all the life in WoW though. I still think sending swarms of light drones down to surface would be more amusing to watch.
edited for spelling
*imagines hordes of WoW-players chased all over the place by swarms of angry Hobgoblins* Hah, these goblinoids come with plasma cannons and shields. 
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Scott Ryder
Galactic Extensive Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.12.06 23:03:00 -
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Edited by: Scott Ryder on 06/12/2008 23:04:20
Originally by: Meiyang Lee Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 06/12/2008 22:36:41 Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 06/12/2008 22:26:30
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
Originally by: Meiyang Lee
Originally by: Saju Somtaaw Awww, why not just let us miners put that planet to good use by mining it out from under them? Sure, the unlucky idiots who don't get to help won't be able to make a profit from mining for a while, but than again neither will the macro'ers.
You can always mine the chunks after we finish blowing it to pieces.  I wonder how many 1000mm AM shells you'd need to crack a planet. 
probably only one
i do recall from a looong time ago that they said something like a teaspoon of antimatter would pretty much like vaporize our planet
Was doing the math for fun, only about 86 Megatonnes per shell*. No idea about the destructive effects, probably quite catastrophic. *(assuming a 1000mm shell has a 3 meter long casing and is filled for 85% with antimatter at 1kg/m3) It's ofcourse extremely efficient, only 2kg AM per shell doing that kind of damage, but still that's going to take a lot of rounds to crack a planets crust open.
Now i'm no physicist, so I certainly could be wrong. But the conversion is total I believe, so E=MC^2 should apply. Was quite surprised the yield came out this low though. 1 Megaton = 4.18E15 J 1 Kg Anti-matter = 8,9876E16 J (multiply by 2 to account for the 1 Kg of matter that gets annihilated too)
Im just going todo some more maths here;
cost a few hundred million Swiss Francs to produce about 1 billionth of a gram
200 million chf (a few hundred million siwss francs) wich is 164,000,295 usd aprox. Now lets make a gram shall we?
you wouldnt happend to have 164000295000000000 usd around somewhere would you? Or even better why not make 2 kg to make the shell you need. 32800059000000000000 usd
Hello you have reached the Bank of America, how may i help you? Hi its Meiyang Lee calling, I would like to apply for a loan. Ah let me pass you to our kredit department.
:On hold:
:still on hold:
Hello Bank of America, Its john speaking, how can i help you? Ah finally sir, My name is Meiyang Lee I would like to apply for a loan. Sounds good, what are youre customernumber and how much do you need? mumbles:My customer number is 123044 and i need oh say roughly 32800059000000000000 usd. I see, over 5 years? 5 years, yes that would do. 5466676500000000 usd monthly plus the interest then the next 5 years? Oh sorry and a 100 usd signing fee. Can you come down and sign the papers today? Thank you, Ill be down in an hour, byes.
:Hangup:
Link to show what kinda stupid numbers we are talking here. multiply that biggest stack with 500 000 or 5000000, I got lost in numbers
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.12.06 23:08:00 -
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In this day and age, yes it would cost a ridiculous amount of money, we don't exactly have the technology to make this stuff on a large scale. In EVE we obviously do, which is what we're on about afteral. 
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Scott Ryder
Galactic Extensive Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.12.06 23:15:00 -
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Have you even tried saying the number ^^ I have :D
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JordanParey
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.12.07 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: quave
Originally by: Meiyang Lee Was doing the math for fun, only about 86 Megatonnes per shell*. No idea about the destructive effects, probably quite catastrophic. *(assuming a 1000mm shell has a 3 meter long casing and is filled for 85% with antimatter at 1kg/m3) It's ofcourse extremely efficient, only 2kg AM per shell doing that kind of damage, but still that's going to take a lot of rounds to crack a planets crust open.
Now i'm no physicist, so I certainly could be wrong. But the conversion is total I believe, so E=MC^2 should apply. Was quite surprised the yield came out this low though.
Hmm, I've never seen "only" and "86 megatonnes" in the same sentence before, just for a point of reference, i give you the king of the bombs 
EEN ROOSHAH, YOU DON DETONAATE BOMB. BOMB DETONAATE YOO!
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X1994
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Posted - 2008.12.07 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Spot I dont have the link, but I remember a map showing that one of the larger Officer smart bombs could just about cover all the major land masses on both WoW worlds.
But no worry if they can't cover everything, then you'd just need to move a little bit.
Found it.
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.12.08 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: X1994
Originally by: Sergeant Spot I dont have the link, but I remember a map showing that one of the larger Officer smart bombs could just about cover all the major land masses on both WoW worlds.
But no worry if they can't cover everything, then you'd just need to move a little bit.
Found it.
We'll just portal to Outland. S'cool.
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