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Sabine Borgia
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:26:00 -
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hes a scammer got in escrow 3 deals crow for 9.9 mills (you get a reinfored bulkhead after accept) cpuII for 5 mills (you get an overdrive injektor) and a thorax for ca 6 mills (you get 200 shoots ammo)
well hold an eye open bevor you deal with him
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Sabine Borgia
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:26:00 -
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hes a scammer got in escrow 3 deals crow for 9.9 mills (you get a reinfored bulkhead after accept) cpuII for 5 mills (you get an overdrive injektor) and a thorax for ca 6 mills (you get 200 shoots ammo)
well hold an eye open bevor you deal with him
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Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:37:00 -
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And now the GMs warn me ingame! I thought scamming is an accepted way of playing!
Why don't they give a clear statement, I was shocked by the GM mail warning me. |

Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:37:00 -
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And now the GMs warn me ingame! I thought scamming is an accepted way of playing!
Why don't they give a clear statement, I was shocked by the GM mail warning me. |

Steno
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:44:00 -
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sorry for your loss but does no one inspect the merchandise of an escrow? be nice if they did, then we could get rid of all the junk in escrow and maybe see something useful.
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Steno
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:44:00 -
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sorry for your loss but does no one inspect the merchandise of an escrow? be nice if they did, then we could get rid of all the junk in escrow and maybe see something useful.
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Skelator
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe And now the GMs warn me ingame! I thought scamming is an accepted way of playing!
Why don't they give a clear statement, I was shocked by the GM mail warning me.
Look I dont mind if you Scam what most of us mind is the fact that you "CLOG" the real items from sight with your multiple posts of B$Hit items.

They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |

Skelator
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe And now the GMs warn me ingame! I thought scamming is an accepted way of playing!
Why don't they give a clear statement, I was shocked by the GM mail warning me.
Look I dont mind if you Scam what most of us mind is the fact that you "CLOG" the real items from sight with your multiple posts of B$Hit items.

They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |

Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Skelator
Look I dont mind if you Scam what most of us mind is the fact that you "CLOG" the real items from sight with your multiple posts of B$Hit items.

Ok thats a valid point, but then you'll also have to warn the guys spamming the escrow with their 50 items of the same blueprint copy.
btw...nobody bought anything, so no losses. |

Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Skelator
Look I dont mind if you Scam what most of us mind is the fact that you "CLOG" the real items from sight with your multiple posts of B$Hit items.

Ok thats a valid point, but then you'll also have to warn the guys spamming the escrow with their 50 items of the same blueprint copy.
btw...nobody bought anything, so no losses. |

Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:54:00 -
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They removed all my escrows,too. This sucks, it took me an hour to setup those. Why do they say its ok to scam,pirate and steal when they screw me all over? I'm disappointed. |

Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:54:00 -
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They removed all my escrows,too. This sucks, it took me an hour to setup those. Why do they say its ok to scam,pirate and steal when they screw me all over? I'm disappointed. |

Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.07.14 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe They removed all my escrows,too. This sucks, it took me an hour to setup those. Why do they say its ok to scam,pirate and steal when they screw me all over? I'm disappointed.
1. I thought this quote was hilarious.
2. I suspect there was some pretty massive spamming going on if you spent an hour straight making escrows...
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.07.14 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe They removed all my escrows,too. This sucks, it took me an hour to setup those. Why do they say its ok to scam,pirate and steal when they screw me all over? I'm disappointed.
1. I thought this quote was hilarious.
2. I suspect there was some pretty massive spamming going on if you spent an hour straight making escrows...
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 03:35:00 -
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Well then they should tell me not to spam. It was only 15 to 20 escrows. And it takes time if think well about how to scam right.
I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams. |

Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 03:35:00 -
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Well then they should tell me not to spam. It was only 15 to 20 escrows. And it takes time if think well about how to scam right.
I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams. |

Dafuzz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams.
I think you receiving a mail from a GM is a clue. --
-If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets.. |

Dafuzz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams.
I think you receiving a mail from a GM is a clue. --
-If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets.. |

Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams.
I think you receiving a mail from a GM is a clue.
Don't try to be a smartass here please. The GM told me he received complains about my scams, and I am warned. He did not state reasons, rules or future advisement.He did not reply to my answer in which I requested this info. |

Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams.
I think you receiving a mail from a GM is a clue.
Don't try to be a smartass here please. The GM told me he received complains about my scams, and I am warned. He did not state reasons, rules or future advisement.He did not reply to my answer in which I requested this info. |

killswitch
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Posted - 2004.07.14 04:26:00 -
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Altho I haven't scammed, I too am disappointed by this news, I still have both boxes that indicate its ok to do this type of thing.

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killswitch
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Posted - 2004.07.14 04:26:00 -
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Altho I haven't scammed, I too am disappointed by this news, I still have both boxes that indicate its ok to do this type of thing.

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Sabine Borgia
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Posted - 2004.07.14 04:47:00 -
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Edited by: Sabine Borgia on 14/07/2004 04:58:26
Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe Well then they should tell me not to spam. It was only 15 to 20 escrows. And it takes time if think well about how to scam right.
I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams.
well im sure some guys you scamed be happy now :-D and at other point you sayd you need time to scam right??! selling a crow and offer a bulkhead for?? well evryone who rightclicks see it why not try selling stuff that looks familar ? like executioner as a malediction ? tech 1 cpu as tech 2 cpu?? or does a thorax looks like 200 shoots ammo?
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Sabine Borgia
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Posted - 2004.07.14 04:47:00 -
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Edited by: Sabine Borgia on 14/07/2004 04:58:26
Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe Well then they should tell me not to spam. It was only 15 to 20 escrows. And it takes time if think well about how to scam right.
I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams.
well im sure some guys you scamed be happy now :-D and at other point you sayd you need time to scam right??! selling a crow and offer a bulkhead for?? well evryone who rightclicks see it why not try selling stuff that looks familar ? like executioner as a malediction ? tech 1 cpu as tech 2 cpu?? or does a thorax looks like 200 shoots ammo?
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.07.14 05:10:00 -
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I actually have to agree with the scammer here, as IIRC devs/mods/GMs have said that scamming was okay, caveat emptor sort of thing goin down with escrow. Though, I could see the problem if the scam was spammed, but IMO thats more of an indication that the escrow system is being overhauled. _________________ [SAK] And Proud Of It! aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? |

Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.07.14 05:10:00 -
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I actually have to agree with the scammer here, as IIRC devs/mods/GMs have said that scamming was okay, caveat emptor sort of thing goin down with escrow. Though, I could see the problem if the scam was spammed, but IMO thats more of an indication that the escrow system is being overhauled. _________________ [SAK] And Proud Of It! aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? |

Adriana
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:05:00 -
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I would be very happy to see this if I thought it was going to be a GM trend.
As it is though I'm not happy about it. Officially the GMs have indicated that fraud is ok, and yet here we have an example of a GM cleaning a few things up.
Thats not at all what I want. What I want is for escrow to become completely unusable to the point that the screams from the masses of players force them to say officially that scamming in this way (lying about what item you are selling) is fraud, and that you are liable and will be leveled a hefty fine (isk or temporary ban) if you are caught.
As far as price scams, thats not fraud imo. I don't like price scammers either, but when you come right down to it you got the item you paid for. It's just that it's a nice "designer" item. If you don't want those then you need to double check the prices.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. -Napoleon Bonaparte |

Adriana
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:05:00 -
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I would be very happy to see this if I thought it was going to be a GM trend.
As it is though I'm not happy about it. Officially the GMs have indicated that fraud is ok, and yet here we have an example of a GM cleaning a few things up.
Thats not at all what I want. What I want is for escrow to become completely unusable to the point that the screams from the masses of players force them to say officially that scamming in this way (lying about what item you are selling) is fraud, and that you are liable and will be leveled a hefty fine (isk or temporary ban) if you are caught.
As far as price scams, thats not fraud imo. I don't like price scammers either, but when you come right down to it you got the item you paid for. It's just that it's a nice "designer" item. If you don't want those then you need to double check the prices.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. -Napoleon Bonaparte |

Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.07.14 11:48:00 -
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Well maybe some common sense can be applied to scamming.
Clearly filling escrow up with scams is tearing a large one and has been considered so.
There are many scams out there which take a bit more effort and thought and are not prone to intervention.
No need to list them here, coz the board is full of information concerning how people are scamming or being scammed.
The problem of the escrow market has been highlighted on a number of threads.
Lets have some more reports of escrow scams and clean this bit of the game up and have some more entertaining and intelligent scams.
IRL the more stupid the criminal the more likely he is going to be caught and punished. |

Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.07.14 11:48:00 -
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Well maybe some common sense can be applied to scamming.
Clearly filling escrow up with scams is tearing a large one and has been considered so.
There are many scams out there which take a bit more effort and thought and are not prone to intervention.
No need to list them here, coz the board is full of information concerning how people are scamming or being scammed.
The problem of the escrow market has been highlighted on a number of threads.
Lets have some more reports of escrow scams and clean this bit of the game up and have some more entertaining and intelligent scams.
IRL the more stupid the criminal the more likely he is going to be caught and punished. |
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