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Sabine Borgia
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:26:00 -
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hes a scammer got in escrow 3 deals
crow for 9.9 mills (you get a reinfored bulkhead after accept)
cpuII for 5 mills (you get an overdrive injektor)
and a thorax for ca 6 mills (you get 200 shoots ammo)
well hold an eye open bevor you deal with him
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Sabine Borgia
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:26:00 -
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hes a scammer got in escrow 3 deals
crow for 9.9 mills (you get a reinfored bulkhead after accept)
cpuII for 5 mills (you get an overdrive injektor)
and a thorax for ca 6 mills (you get 200 shoots ammo)
well hold an eye open bevor you deal with him
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Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:37:00 -
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And now the GMs warn me ingame! I thought scamming is an accepted way of playing!
Why don't they give a clear statement, I was shocked by the GM mail warning me. |
Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:37:00 -
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And now the GMs warn me ingame! I thought scamming is an accepted way of playing!
Why don't they give a clear statement, I was shocked by the GM mail warning me. |
Steno
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:44:00 -
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sorry for your loss but does no one inspect the merchandise of an escrow? be nice if they did, then we could get rid of all the junk in escrow and maybe see something useful.
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Steno
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:44:00 -
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sorry for your loss but does no one inspect the merchandise of an escrow? be nice if they did, then we could get rid of all the junk in escrow and maybe see something useful.
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Skelator
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
And now the GMs warn me ingame! I thought scamming is an accepted way of playing!
Why don't they give a clear statement, I was shocked by the GM mail warning me.
Look I dont mind if you Scam what most of us mind is the fact that you "CLOG" the real items from sight with your multiple posts of B$Hit items.
They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |
Skelator
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
And now the GMs warn me ingame! I thought scamming is an accepted way of playing!
Why don't they give a clear statement, I was shocked by the GM mail warning me.
Look I dont mind if you Scam what most of us mind is the fact that you "CLOG" the real items from sight with your multiple posts of B$Hit items.
They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |
Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Skelator
Look I dont mind if you Scam what most of us mind is the fact that you "CLOG" the real items from sight with your multiple posts of B$Hit items.
Ok thats a valid point, but then you'll also have to warn the guys spamming the escrow with their 50 items of the same blueprint copy.
btw...nobody bought anything, so no losses. |
Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Skelator
Look I dont mind if you Scam what most of us mind is the fact that you "CLOG" the real items from sight with your multiple posts of B$Hit items.
Ok thats a valid point, but then you'll also have to warn the guys spamming the escrow with their 50 items of the same blueprint copy.
btw...nobody bought anything, so no losses. |
Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:54:00 -
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They removed all my escrows,too. This sucks, it took me an hour to setup those. Why do they say its ok to scam,pirate and steal when they screw me all over? I'm disappointed. |
Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 01:54:00 -
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They removed all my escrows,too. This sucks, it took me an hour to setup those. Why do they say its ok to scam,pirate and steal when they screw me all over? I'm disappointed. |
Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.07.14 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
They removed all my escrows,too. This sucks, it took me an hour to setup those. Why do they say its ok to scam,pirate and steal when they screw me all over? I'm disappointed.
1. I thought this quote was hilarious.
2. I suspect there was some pretty massive spamming going on if you spent an hour straight making escrows...
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.07.14 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
They removed all my escrows,too. This sucks, it took me an hour to setup those. Why do they say its ok to scam,pirate and steal when they screw me all over? I'm disappointed.
1. I thought this quote was hilarious.
2. I suspect there was some pretty massive spamming going on if you spent an hour straight making escrows...
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 03:35:00 -
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Well then they should tell me not to spam. It was only 15 to 20 escrows. And it takes time if think well about how to scam right.
I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams. |
Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 03:35:00 -
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Well then they should tell me not to spam. It was only 15 to 20 escrows. And it takes time if think well about how to scam right.
I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams. |
Dafuzz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams.
I think you receiving a mail from a GM is a clue.
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-If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets.. |
Dafuzz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams.
I think you receiving a mail from a GM is a clue.
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-If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets.. |
Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams.
I think you receiving a mail from a GM is a clue.
Don't try to be a smartass here please. The GM told me he received complains about my scams, and I am warned. He did not state reasons, rules or future advisement.He did not reply to my answer in which I requested this info. |
Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.07.14 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams.
I think you receiving a mail from a GM is a clue.
Don't try to be a smartass here please. The GM told me he received complains about my scams, and I am warned. He did not state reasons, rules or future advisement.He did not reply to my answer in which I requested this info. |
killswitch
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Posted - 2004.07.14 04:26:00 -
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Altho I haven't scammed, I too am disappointed by this news, I still have both boxes that indicate its ok to do this type of thing.
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killswitch
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Posted - 2004.07.14 04:26:00 -
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Altho I haven't scammed, I too am disappointed by this news, I still have both boxes that indicate its ok to do this type of thing.
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Sabine Borgia
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Posted - 2004.07.14 04:47:00 -
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Edited by: Sabine Borgia on 14/07/2004 04:58:26
Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
Well then they should tell me not to spam. It was only 15 to 20 escrows. And it takes time if think well about how to scam right.
I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams.
well im sure some guys you scamed be happy now :-D
and at other point you sayd you need time to scam right??! selling a crow and offer a bulkhead for?? well evryone who rightclicks see it why not try selling stuff that looks familar ? like executioner as a malediction ? tech 1 cpu as tech 2 cpu??
or does a thorax looks like 200 shoots ammo?
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Sabine Borgia
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Posted - 2004.07.14 04:47:00 -
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Edited by: Sabine Borgia on 14/07/2004 04:58:26
Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
Well then they should tell me not to spam. It was only 15 to 20 escrows. And it takes time if think well about how to scam right.
I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams.
well im sure some guys you scamed be happy now :-D
and at other point you sayd you need time to scam right??! selling a crow and offer a bulkhead for?? well evryone who rightclicks see it why not try selling stuff that looks familar ? like executioner as a malediction ? tech 1 cpu as tech 2 cpu??
or does a thorax looks like 200 shoots ammo?
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.07.14 05:10:00 -
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I actually have to agree with the scammer here, as IIRC devs/mods/GMs have said that scamming was okay, caveat emptor sort of thing goin down with escrow. Though, I could see the problem if the scam was spammed, but IMO thats more of an indication that the escrow system is being overhauled.
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[SAK] And Proud Of It!
aka Cpt Bogus
Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? |
Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.07.14 05:10:00 -
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I actually have to agree with the scammer here, as IIRC devs/mods/GMs have said that scamming was okay, caveat emptor sort of thing goin down with escrow. Though, I could see the problem if the scam was spammed, but IMO thats more of an indication that the escrow system is being overhauled.
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[SAK] And Proud Of It!
aka Cpt Bogus
Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? |
Adriana
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:05:00 -
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I would be very happy to see this if I thought it was going to be a GM trend.
As it is though I'm not happy about it. Officially the GMs have indicated that fraud is ok, and yet here we have an example of a GM cleaning a few things up.
Thats not at all what I want. What I want is for escrow to become completely unusable to the point that the screams from the masses of players force them to say officially that scamming in this way (lying about what item you are selling) is fraud, and that you are liable and will be leveled a hefty fine (isk or temporary ban) if you are caught.
As far as price scams, thats not fraud imo. I don't like price scammers either, but when you come right down to it you got the item you paid for. It's just that it's a nice "designer" item. If you don't want those then you need to double check the prices.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
-Napoleon Bonaparte |
Adriana
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:05:00 -
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I would be very happy to see this if I thought it was going to be a GM trend.
As it is though I'm not happy about it. Officially the GMs have indicated that fraud is ok, and yet here we have an example of a GM cleaning a few things up.
Thats not at all what I want. What I want is for escrow to become completely unusable to the point that the screams from the masses of players force them to say officially that scamming in this way (lying about what item you are selling) is fraud, and that you are liable and will be leveled a hefty fine (isk or temporary ban) if you are caught.
As far as price scams, thats not fraud imo. I don't like price scammers either, but when you come right down to it you got the item you paid for. It's just that it's a nice "designer" item. If you don't want those then you need to double check the prices.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
-Napoleon Bonaparte |
Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.07.14 11:48:00 -
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Well maybe some common sense can be applied to scamming.
Clearly filling escrow up with scams is tearing a large one and has been considered so.
There are many scams out there which take a bit more effort and thought and are not prone to intervention.
No need to list them here, coz the board is full of information concerning how people are scamming or being scammed.
The problem of the escrow market has been highlighted on a number of threads.
Lets have some more reports of escrow scams and clean this bit of the game up and have some more entertaining and intelligent scams.
IRL the more stupid the criminal the more likely he is going to be caught and punished. |
Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.07.14 11:48:00 -
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Well maybe some common sense can be applied to scamming.
Clearly filling escrow up with scams is tearing a large one and has been considered so.
There are many scams out there which take a bit more effort and thought and are not prone to intervention.
No need to list them here, coz the board is full of information concerning how people are scamming or being scammed.
The problem of the escrow market has been highlighted on a number of threads.
Lets have some more reports of escrow scams and clean this bit of the game up and have some more entertaining and intelligent scams.
IRL the more stupid the criminal the more likely he is going to be caught and punished. |
Boonaki
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:04:00 -
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What it really happend is a GM bought something on his normal play account. He logged on his GM account and took care of the problem.
Fear the Ibis of doom. |
Boonaki
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:04:00 -
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What it really happend is a GM bought something on his normal play account. He logged on his GM account and took care of the problem.
Fear the Ibis of doom. |
PaulLRyan
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:07:00 -
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What I don't like about this is the inconsistency. There are loads of scams up there and you only need a few seconds to check what you are buying, so why does one person get hammered and not everyone.
I like to have a laugh at what people are trying to offload as I browse through escrow. I find it more annoying to page down past those 35 entries from one person all selling the same thing at the same price than I do the 75Mil shuttle ones.
Can we please stop asking CCP to code things into the game to protect us from our own stupidity?
Also can we please have a consistent answer from CCP about these often debated topics. As far as I understood it: missnamed escrows, market entries at over 1000 times the average price and taking stuff from a can in space were (at the moment) not exploits but part of the game.
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PaulLRyan
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:07:00 -
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What I don't like about this is the inconsistency. There are loads of scams up there and you only need a few seconds to check what you are buying, so why does one person get hammered and not everyone.
I like to have a laugh at what people are trying to offload as I browse through escrow. I find it more annoying to page down past those 35 entries from one person all selling the same thing at the same price than I do the 75Mil shuttle ones.
Can we please stop asking CCP to code things into the game to protect us from our own stupidity?
Also can we please have a consistent answer from CCP about these often debated topics. As far as I understood it: missnamed escrows, market entries at over 1000 times the average price and taking stuff from a can in space were (at the moment) not exploits but part of the game.
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Sophie Marceau
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
They removed all my escrows,too. This sucks, it took me an hour to setup those. Why do they say its ok to scam,pirate and steal when they screw me all over? I'm disappointed.
well perhaps you can forget about scamming your fellow eve players making there lives hell and do something worthwhile with your eve time
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Sophie Marceau
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
They removed all my escrows,too. This sucks, it took me an hour to setup those. Why do they say its ok to scam,pirate and steal when they screw me all over? I'm disappointed.
well perhaps you can forget about scamming your fellow eve players making there lives hell and do something worthwhile with your eve time
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Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:26:00 -
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I would like CCP to code a few things to protect me from the stupidity of others.
As Tech2 Shoppe said, nobody bought anything, so the only fool was the person filling up the escrow market with worthless junk expecting someone to buy it.
All it achieved was to mess up an area of the game which can easily be solved by removing the rubbish.
It was removed.
As ever it is the idiot minority which stuff the game for the responsible majority. |
Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:26:00 -
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I would like CCP to code a few things to protect me from the stupidity of others.
As Tech2 Shoppe said, nobody bought anything, so the only fool was the person filling up the escrow market with worthless junk expecting someone to buy it.
All it achieved was to mess up an area of the game which can easily be solved by removing the rubbish.
It was removed.
As ever it is the idiot minority which stuff the game for the responsible majority. |
Dream
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Posted - 2004.07.14 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
Well then they should tell me not to spam. It was only 15 to 20 escrows. And it takes time if think well about how to scam right.
Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
btw...nobody bought anything, so no losses.
Anyone else find this funny?
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Dream
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Posted - 2004.07.14 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
Well then they should tell me not to spam. It was only 15 to 20 escrows. And it takes time if think well about how to scam right.
Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
btw...nobody bought anything, so no losses.
Anyone else find this funny?
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Tornad o
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:37:00 -
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Ive made about 10mil selling "bookmarks" into Curse Alliance space
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Tornad o
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:37:00 -
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Ive made about 10mil selling "bookmarks" into Curse Alliance space
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.07.14 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tornad o
Ive made about 10mil selling "bookmarks" into Curse Alliance space
lol that is sheer genius.
Personally I don't mind scamming in the game much, but then I have no money and rarely use escrow so my opinion is irrelevant. Btw people you considered a 'bank alt' I saw it another thread (sorry forgot who) but basically you give all you 'big' money tens and hundreds of millions to the alts and only transfer enough for each purchase. This is meant for overpriced shuttles and the like but still handy to have.
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I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.07.14 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tornad o
Ive made about 10mil selling "bookmarks" into Curse Alliance space
lol that is sheer genius.
Personally I don't mind scamming in the game much, but then I have no money and rarely use escrow so my opinion is irrelevant. Btw people you considered a 'bank alt' I saw it another thread (sorry forgot who) but basically you give all you 'big' money tens and hundreds of millions to the alts and only transfer enough for each purchase. This is meant for overpriced shuttles and the like but still handy to have.
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I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 15:21:00 -
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Edited by: Cruz on 14/07/2004 15:23:05
Thats quite funny
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 15:21:00 -
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Edited by: Cruz on 14/07/2004 15:23:05
Thats quite funny
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Tornad o
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Posted - 2004.07.14 15:21:00 -
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yeah it takes like an hour or two to make it look authentic though...
Its funny that people even buy BMs off of escrow considering you cant even see the names of the BMs all they say is Bookmark 1 40 or so times. I hope they like travelling to suns
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Tornad o
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Posted - 2004.07.14 15:21:00 -
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yeah it takes like an hour or two to make it look authentic though...
Its funny that people even buy BMs off of escrow considering you cant even see the names of the BMs all they say is Bookmark 1 40 or so times. I hope they like travelling to suns
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Simlife
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Posted - 2004.07.14 17:24:00 -
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The.. the tears...
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Simlife
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Posted - 2004.07.14 17:24:00 -
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The.. the tears...
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Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.07.14 17:28:00 -
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and like the criminal mastermind you are, you tell every1 
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Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.07.14 17:28:00 -
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and like the criminal mastermind you are, you tell every1
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Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.07.24 09:33:00 -
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Edited by: Omega Man on 24/07/2004 09:43:07
Originally by: Tornad o
yeah it takes like an hour or two to make it look authentic though...
Its funny that people even buy BMs off of escrow considering you cant even see the names of the BMs all they say is Bookmark 1 40 or so times. I hope they like travelling to suns
just to make sure the quote does not disappear, as Tornad o has just hijacked a bookmarking salesmans thread with his own special brand of bookmarking business.
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Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.07.24 09:33:00 -
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Edited by: Omega Man on 24/07/2004 09:43:07
Originally by: Tornad o
yeah it takes like an hour or two to make it look authentic though...
Its funny that people even buy BMs off of escrow considering you cant even see the names of the BMs all they say is Bookmark 1 40 or so times. I hope they like travelling to suns
just to make sure the quote does not disappear, as Tornad o has just hijacked a bookmarking salesmans thread with his own special brand of bookmarking business.
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p0ma
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Posted - 2004.07.24 10:27:00 -
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I gottah go with the scumbag on this one as well. CCP said it's ok to Scam. Maybe they meant it's only okay to scam on Ebay.
Whichever the case... say what you mean and mean what you said. blah....
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"Cry Exploit and let slip the Dogs of War" |
p0ma
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Posted - 2004.07.24 10:27:00 -
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I gottah go with the scumbag on this one as well. CCP said it's ok to Scam. Maybe they meant it's only okay to scam on Ebay.
Whichever the case... say what you mean and mean what you said. blah....
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"Cry Exploit and let slip the Dogs of War" |
Broc Vallion
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Posted - 2004.07.24 10:59:00 -
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Which GM was it?...........
I thought scamming was part of the game too..........people selling none existant labs slots are scamming too, at least you are actually selling the people something even if it isnt what they wanted........
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Broc Vallion
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Posted - 2004.07.24 10:59:00 -
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Which GM was it?...........
I thought scamming was part of the game too..........people selling none existant labs slots are scamming too, at least you are actually selling the people something even if it isnt what they wanted........
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DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.07.24 12:12:00 -
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i dont liek escrow or the market being polouted, but i see no reason they should target one or a few people when there are hundreds doing the same thing on escrow and especially the market, mostly using alts...
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Scum, your all scum. |
DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.07.24 12:12:00 -
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i dont liek escrow or the market being polouted, but i see no reason they should target one or a few people when there are hundreds doing the same thing on escrow and especially the market, mostly using alts...
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Scum, your all scum. |
Ocra Nomium
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Posted - 2004.07.24 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
Well then they should tell me not to spam. It was only 15 to 20 escrows. And it takes time if think well about how to scam right.
I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams.
Is this a templet of how your real live is also.
If so CCP is helping you to get better at it in real live
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Ocra Nomium
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Posted - 2004.07.24 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tech2 Shoppe
Well then they should tell me not to spam. It was only 15 to 20 escrows. And it takes time if think well about how to scam right.
I'd like a clear statement if its forbidden to make escrow scams or spams.
Is this a templet of how your real live is also.
If so CCP is helping you to get better at it in real live
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Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.07.24 13:09:00 -
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Edited by: Omega Man on 24/07/2004 13:11:13
DJTheBaron writes:
but i see no reason they should target one or a few people when there are hundreds doing the same thing on escrow and especially the market, mostly using alts...
********
Punish the few real bad, and the rest get the message.
you start somewhere, anyone seen tech2 shoppe polluting the forum with posts recently?
Next...
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Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.07.24 13:09:00 -
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Edited by: Omega Man on 24/07/2004 13:11:13
DJTheBaron writes:
but i see no reason they should target one or a few people when there are hundreds doing the same thing on escrow and especially the market, mostly using alts...
********
Punish the few real bad, and the rest get the message.
you start somewhere, anyone seen tech2 shoppe polluting the forum with posts recently?
Next...
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BIRDofPREY
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Posted - 2004.07.24 16:59:00 -
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It was almost amusing going through escrow, "inspecting" items and comparing what was actually offereed versus the player entered description.
Amarr Shuttles for 500,000 isk
Cheap mex for 20isk each..
And my favorite; a Scorpion BP(quick sell) that wasn't for 1,000,000 isk
You have to take a second and read the description, and not by every piece of trash that someone ask's you too...
Your 650mm Artillery Cannon I perfectly strikes Serpentis Guard, wrecking for 340.0 damage |
BIRDofPREY
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Posted - 2004.07.24 16:59:00 -
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It was almost amusing going through escrow, "inspecting" items and comparing what was actually offereed versus the player entered description.
Amarr Shuttles for 500,000 isk
Cheap mex for 20isk each..
And my favorite; a Scorpion BP(quick sell) that wasn't for 1,000,000 isk
You have to take a second and read the description, and not by every piece of trash that someone ask's you too...
Your 650mm Artillery Cannon I perfectly strikes Serpentis Guard, wrecking for 340.0 damage |
Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.07.24 17:04:00 -
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As far as I understand it, scamming is allowed but spamming escrows is not.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |
Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.07.24 17:04:00 -
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As far as I understand it, scamming is allowed but spamming escrows is not.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |
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