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Hexbind
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Posted - 2004.07.14 04:59:00 -
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When I trained Caldari Frigate to level V, crows were running for about 4.5 mil ISK. Now that I have finished Evasive level V (and the new patch has been deployed), Crows are selling for an average market value of 12-13 mil ISK. Yet other interceptors like Claws and Taranises rarely sell for more than 6 mil.
Why are Caldari Interceptors selling for 12-13 million ISK while every other race Interceptors are selling for less than half of that? |

Hexbind
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Posted - 2004.07.14 04:59:00 -
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When I trained Caldari Frigate to level V, crows were running for about 4.5 mil ISK. Now that I have finished Evasive level V (and the new patch has been deployed), Crows are selling for an average market value of 12-13 mil ISK. Yet other interceptors like Claws and Taranises rarely sell for more than 6 mil.
Why are Caldari Interceptors selling for 12-13 million ISK while every other race Interceptors are selling for less than half of that? |

Necrologic
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:00:00 -
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because some people are just plain hateful....but i got mine for 11 mil.... _______________________________________________________
Et nunc, reges, intelligite, erudimini, qui judicati terram. |

Necrologic
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:00:00 -
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because some people are just plain hateful....but i got mine for 11 mil.... _______________________________________________________
Et nunc, reges, intelligite, erudimini, qui judicati terram. |

Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:56:00 -
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Coz Crow is good .. 
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:56:00 -
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Coz Crow is good .. 
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.07.14 08:12:00 -
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Cos CCP are too retarded to make the components more available :)
that and the people who make them are greedy? :P lol
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.07.14 08:12:00 -
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Cos CCP are too retarded to make the components more available :)
that and the people who make them are greedy? :P lol
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.07.14 08:22:00 -
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because supply is shorter than demand! i mean if you have no problem selling for 10mi+ why charge less? this signals to me a need for more bpo's given out by research agents or some bpc's given by misison agents. again more components would be usefull, an idea i had was for elite frigates to drop a portion of there construction parts when they were destroyed, making the bits re-cycle as it were as the only way im aware of to get components is to do agent missions, which can get a tad monotonous.
Death to the Galante |

Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.07.14 08:22:00 -
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because supply is shorter than demand! i mean if you have no problem selling for 10mi+ why charge less? this signals to me a need for more bpo's given out by research agents or some bpc's given by misison agents. again more components would be usefull, an idea i had was for elite frigates to drop a portion of there construction parts when they were destroyed, making the bits re-cycle as it were as the only way im aware of to get components is to do agent missions, which can get a tad monotonous.
Death to the Galante |

khainestar
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Posted - 2004.07.14 09:33:00 -
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I like the idea of all ships dropping parts of themselves. So if you blew up a battleship part of the hull would be floating around for a while (same as a can). If you had the correct skills you could salvage the bits and recycle them.
It would give a lot of areas a boost.
Pirates get some isk from the bits that the recycle and sell. As I see it at the moment there is no isk in blowing someone up unless they have a bounty. Builders can get cheaper parts so they can sell cheaper. Rat hunters can sell the parts from a NPC hunt so more isk into the market.
Anyone see a downside?
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khainestar
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Posted - 2004.07.14 09:33:00 -
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I like the idea of all ships dropping parts of themselves. So if you blew up a battleship part of the hull would be floating around for a while (same as a can). If you had the correct skills you could salvage the bits and recycle them.
It would give a lot of areas a boost.
Pirates get some isk from the bits that the recycle and sell. As I see it at the moment there is no isk in blowing someone up unless they have a bounty. Builders can get cheaper parts so they can sell cheaper. Rat hunters can sell the parts from a NPC hunt so more isk into the market.
Anyone see a downside?
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Pain. Looks great on other people. Its what there for. |

Ithildin
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Posted - 2004.07.14 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: khainestar Anyone see a downside?
Market stability would change. Need of mining and the benefit of acquiring components peacefully will get a serious hit. The side that win a battle would have lost much, much, less (there are players on both sides, so that's not good).
Not good for balance, in other words. Otherwise and intresting idea --
If TC causes you discomfort that you feel is unwarranted or may be outside TC's current contract - contact me, please. |

Ithildin
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Posted - 2004.07.14 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: khainestar Anyone see a downside?
Market stability would change. Need of mining and the benefit of acquiring components peacefully will get a serious hit. The side that win a battle would have lost much, much, less (there are players on both sides, so that's not good).
Not good for balance, in other words. Otherwise and intresting idea --
If TC causes you discomfort that you feel is unwarranted or may be outside TC's current contract - contact me, please. |

OFFT
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:02:00 -
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There are better deals around for Crows...Ask around on market forum or contact the makers direct...list found above I believe.
Watch the bpc on escrow as some say 5 runs and are 1 run 
The Crow is a great ship. That red paint job costs a fortune to add on.
I have a Raptor too...
Which do I prefer .....The Crow ...why cos missiles , I love those light missiles.
OFFT FORM LIFE :SIMPLE IN A COMPLICATED WAY Some players make EVE history : Other players are EVE history
"We cant all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and and clap as they go by"
scooooshcrumpzerump (c) Random RandomnesesesesÖ |

OFFT
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:02:00 -
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There are better deals around for Crows...Ask around on market forum or contact the makers direct...list found above I believe.
Watch the bpc on escrow as some say 5 runs and are 1 run 
The Crow is a great ship. That red paint job costs a fortune to add on.
I have a Raptor too...
Which do I prefer .....The Crow ...why cos missiles , I love those light missiles.
OFFT FORM LIFE :SIMPLE IN A COMPLICATED WAY Some players make EVE history : Other players are EVE history
"We cant all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and and clap as they go by"
scooooshcrumpzerump (c) Random RandomnesesesesÖ |

Grimpak
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Hexbind When I trained Caldari Frigate to level V, crows were running for about 4.5 mil ISK. Now that I have finished Evasive level V (and the new patch has been deployed), Crows are selling for an average market value of 12-13 mil ISK. Yet other interceptors like Claws and Taranises rarely sell for more than 6 mil.
Why are Caldari Interceptors selling for 12-13 million ISK while every other race Interceptors are selling for less than half of that?
2 reasons:
T2 components are friggin expensive and rare, the bps exist in a reasonable number, the same thing doesn't happen with components.
crow is the best, although I prefer the tartanis -------------------
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Hexbind When I trained Caldari Frigate to level V, crows were running for about 4.5 mil ISK. Now that I have finished Evasive level V (and the new patch has been deployed), Crows are selling for an average market value of 12-13 mil ISK. Yet other interceptors like Claws and Taranises rarely sell for more than 6 mil.
Why are Caldari Interceptors selling for 12-13 million ISK while every other race Interceptors are selling for less than half of that?
2 reasons:
T2 components are friggin expensive and rare, the bps exist in a reasonable number, the same thing doesn't happen with components.
crow is the best, although I prefer the tartanis -------------------
Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
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Core Bash
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Posted - 2004.07.14 13:24:00 -
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Can someone please tell me why PLATINUM insurance of a 7 million ISK interceptor pays off roughly 300,000 ISK? That's absolutely ridiculous. |

Core Bash
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Posted - 2004.07.14 13:24:00 -
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Can someone please tell me why PLATINUM insurance of a 7 million ISK interceptor pays off roughly 300,000 ISK? That's absolutely ridiculous. |

Hans Schinkel
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Posted - 2004.07.14 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
crow is the best, although I prefer the tartanis
Is that a Taranis painted with Tartan coloured paint? 
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Hans Schinkel
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Posted - 2004.07.14 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
crow is the best, although I prefer the tartanis
Is that a Taranis painted with Tartan coloured paint? 
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:29:00 -
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I prefer a crusader :-D but thats just me :-P ................. |

Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:29:00 -
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I prefer a crusader :-D but thats just me :-P ................. |

Liz Bathory
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:33:00 -
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part of the porbelm is the war in the north of 0.0 space
the crow started getting expensive right about whent he pa started losing a lot of them
add to that the cost and rarity of t2 componencts, and interceptors are at right aboutt he right prices.. high enough to not be amss manufactuable, and cheap enought ot be buyble
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Liz Bathory
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:33:00 -
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part of the porbelm is the war in the north of 0.0 space
the crow started getting expensive right about whent he pa started losing a lot of them
add to that the cost and rarity of t2 componencts, and interceptors are at right aboutt he right prices.. high enough to not be amss manufactuable, and cheap enought ot be buyble
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Xavier Cardde
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Steele because supply is shorter than demand! i mean if you have no problem selling for 10mi+ why charge less? this signals to me a need for more bpo's given out by research agents or some bpc's given by misison agents. again more components would be usefull, an idea i had was for elite frigates to drop a portion of there construction parts when they were destroyed, making the bits re-cycle as it were as the only way im aware of to get components is to do agent missions, which can get a tad monotonous.
DEAD WRONG
tech 2 is supposed to be rare and ANYTHING to make it more-so is a good thing...
pay or use tech 1.... that how it SHOULD be.
tech 2 isnt just a cheao upgrade... its high tech gadget material...
retarded suggestions about T2 as usual.
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Xavier Cardde
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Steele because supply is shorter than demand! i mean if you have no problem selling for 10mi+ why charge less? this signals to me a need for more bpo's given out by research agents or some bpc's given by misison agents. again more components would be usefull, an idea i had was for elite frigates to drop a portion of there construction parts when they were destroyed, making the bits re-cycle as it were as the only way im aware of to get components is to do agent missions, which can get a tad monotonous.
DEAD WRONG
tech 2 is supposed to be rare and ANYTHING to make it more-so is a good thing...
pay or use tech 1.... that how it SHOULD be.
tech 2 isnt just a cheao upgrade... its high tech gadget material...
retarded suggestions about T2 as usual.
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Mneme Mentari
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Posted - 2004.07.31 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Xavier Cardde
Originally by: Jim Steele because supply is shorter than demand! i mean if you have no problem selling for 10mi+ why charge less? this signals to me a need for more bpo's given out by research agents or some bpc's given by misison agents. again more components would be usefull, an idea i had was for elite frigates to drop a portion of there construction parts when they were destroyed, making the bits re-cycle as it were as the only way im aware of to get components is to do agent missions, which can get a tad monotonous.
DEAD WRONG
tech 2 is supposed to be rare and ANYTHING to make it more-so is a good thing...
pay or use tech 1.... that how it SHOULD be.
tech 2 isnt just a cheao upgrade... its high tech gadget material...
retarded suggestions about T2 as usual.
Sure rare not friggin non-existing. 10+ mil for an interceptor is way to much, especially since it they don't cost more than a mil or three to build. But that's not the real problem either. It's the friggin parts for Caldari interceptors; they sell for a couple of more times than thoose for other interceptors.
And no, it's not supposed to be so ******* expensive that they aren't worth it. Then people will jsut stop flying them and we'll all go back to battleship.. Great idea.
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Mneme Mentari
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Posted - 2004.07.31 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Xavier Cardde
Originally by: Jim Steele because supply is shorter than demand! i mean if you have no problem selling for 10mi+ why charge less? this signals to me a need for more bpo's given out by research agents or some bpc's given by misison agents. again more components would be usefull, an idea i had was for elite frigates to drop a portion of there construction parts when they were destroyed, making the bits re-cycle as it were as the only way im aware of to get components is to do agent missions, which can get a tad monotonous.
DEAD WRONG
tech 2 is supposed to be rare and ANYTHING to make it more-so is a good thing...
pay or use tech 1.... that how it SHOULD be.
tech 2 isnt just a cheao upgrade... its high tech gadget material...
retarded suggestions about T2 as usual.
Sure rare not friggin non-existing. 10+ mil for an interceptor is way to much, especially since it they don't cost more than a mil or three to build. But that's not the real problem either. It's the friggin parts for Caldari interceptors; they sell for a couple of more times than thoose for other interceptors.
And no, it's not supposed to be so ******* expensive that they aren't worth it. Then people will jsut stop flying them and we'll all go back to battleship.. Great idea.
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