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Rho'varo
Minmatar
Diversified Operational Services
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Posted - 2008.12.05 19:40:00 -
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 Originally by: SencneS
If you take the amount of the minerals and multiple it out by the base price you'll discover that each mineral has a very similar value. [...]
In order to lower prices what you can do is work on lowering the item that costs a majority of the price.
This was an observation that I used when I ran my T1 manufacturing operation. Knowing which minerals were expensive relative to Base Price at any particular time also helped me evaluate when it might be better to trade the minerals directly, rather than building.
Perhaps of further interest, I recorded this price mix over many months (using Heimatar prices). You can see the colourful charts on the 'Minerals' tab of this spreadsheet. The second chart on that tab (scroll to the right) shows the relative contribution of each mineral to the cost of building BPOs with even nominal Base Costs.
The data only goes to mid-2007 because that's when I got out of that line of business and I stopped tracking it. If anyone has similar data, I'd be curious to see (or make, if need be) updated charts. That some of the inflection points correspond with patches and concrete CCP actions highlights the effect of past interventions (e.g., changing the refine mix on a drone drop).
Past CCP interventions appeared to be aimed at nudging mineral prices in the direction of their nominal Base Prices.
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Rho'varo
Minmatar
Diversified Operational Services
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Posted - 2008.12.06 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Horizontal
It may just be me, but I do feel it's more overcrowded...
It's not just you; I too feel that space is getting crowded these days. One consideration is that "sense of space" doesn't scale linearly with "number of pilots"; i.e., doubling the number of pilots actually makes it seem more than twice as crowded as before, because pilots don't distribute themselves uniformly across the universe.
From the Fanfest video(s), I'm not yet convinced that the new model of exploration that the CCP is talking about will actually reduce the sense that space is getting too crowded. (But I am interested to learn more about it, and maybe I'll change my mind.)
Even if you don't think space is too crowded yet, a couple of questions to consider are (i) how would we decide that it is too crowded? and (ii) what should be done then?
Tying this back to Tritanium, I think that changing the size of space would have relatively little impact on the Tritanium market, since the key resource is pilot-hours, rather than space.
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Rho'varo
Minmatar
Diversified Operational Services
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Posted - 2008.12.06 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: GateScout
Originally by: Treelox
"What do you think CCP "might" do to alleviate the trit price/supply problem."
For most literate English speakers you have stated there is a problem with trit price and supply.
Trying to morph this into a forum whine issue is disingenuous at best... or you simply have a very difficult [sic] expressing your true thoughts in written form.
Please read also the sentence that immediately follows your quotation. (Literate readers of any language are probably aware that words should be read in their context.) It says "I myself don't really see this as a problem". This should help you understand the OP's position better. To be fair, you did do better than Ricdic (i.e., you read beyond the subject line before posting), but still you don't appear to have grasped the entirety of what Treelox wrote.
What it looked like was intended was an hypothetical discussion about an issue that Treelox said he personally doesn't think is a problem. This is worth discussing in case CCP identifies it as a "problem" (even if most of us don't consider the issue truly problematic).
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Rho'varo
Minmatar
Diversified Operational Services
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Posted - 2008.12.07 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: GateScout
So we're discussing something that isn't a problem now and most people don't see it as a problem, and only may become a problem for Treelox if something else happens.
I think you're getting it now; I'm glad my comments were able to help help you understand. Hypothetical discussions are indeed part of the fun.
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