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Arud
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Posted - 2004.07.14 09:12:00 -
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I have a few lvl3 agients that I occasionaly take missions for
Two of them who are in the same station give me lots and lots and lots of consumer electronics, have over 15.000 units of those.
Another agient thinks I like data sheets so I have around 10.000 units from him.
Its basicly worthless, though on npc prices the consumer electronics is worth a few millions but so much hazzle to get them to the buyer. The data sheets are worth just about nothing.
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.07.14 09:12:00 -
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I have a few lvl3 agients that I occasionaly take missions for
Two of them who are in the same station give me lots and lots and lots of consumer electronics, have over 15.000 units of those.
Another agient thinks I like data sheets so I have around 10.000 units from him.
Its basicly worthless, though on npc prices the consumer electronics is worth a few millions but so much hazzle to get them to the buyer. The data sheets are worth just about nothing.
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Sammira
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Posted - 2004.07.14 10:48:00 -
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Edited by: Sammira on 14/07/2004 10:54:19
Well, you have several avenues open to you from what I can see.
1)Haul them yourself to a buyer. often a long distance
2)Sell to a local pilot who has a buy order up close buy
3)Put them up for sale at a decent price. You got them as rewards, so they are "free" technically. If say you put up the goods at 50% of market price, you will doubtless get a trader like myself who is willing to travel, buy them and move them to another location for sale at a profit to both the seller and to the buyer.
Problem is, you have to have the goods at a price that will enduce people to buy your goods to sell on. Unless they area already heading in that direction without a cargo, the profit derived from the goods will determine who quickly your items sell.
What is your location, perhaps I can offer you a deal for your "worthless" items to your profit and mine.
I have just finished buying hydrogen batteries from a pilot which when sold will net me around 1.2 million profit from the single run of 15 jumps. I can make 500 thousand on the return leg. Both pilots whom i buy from make a good profit on the items they sell to me, and they spend only afew seconds to set-up the sale orders, rather than spending time hauling the goods looking for markets.
If more people did this perhaps I could make more profits, but as it is, it seems to be few people putting up these "worthless items" prefering to sell them themselves instead of working for their corporate agents.
*sighs*
Drink StarsiÖ + [DS] Haulage
Production Division
Caldari State Citizen
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Sammira
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Posted - 2004.07.14 10:48:00 -
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Edited by: Sammira on 14/07/2004 10:54:19
Well, you have several avenues open to you from what I can see.
1)Haul them yourself to a buyer. often a long distance
2)Sell to a local pilot who has a buy order up close buy
3)Put them up for sale at a decent price. You got them as rewards, so they are "free" technically. If say you put up the goods at 50% of market price, you will doubtless get a trader like myself who is willing to travel, buy them and move them to another location for sale at a profit to both the seller and to the buyer.
Problem is, you have to have the goods at a price that will enduce people to buy your goods to sell on. Unless they area already heading in that direction without a cargo, the profit derived from the goods will determine who quickly your items sell.
What is your location, perhaps I can offer you a deal for your "worthless" items to your profit and mine.
I have just finished buying hydrogen batteries from a pilot which when sold will net me around 1.2 million profit from the single run of 15 jumps. I can make 500 thousand on the return leg. Both pilots whom i buy from make a good profit on the items they sell to me, and they spend only afew seconds to set-up the sale orders, rather than spending time hauling the goods looking for markets.
If more people did this perhaps I could make more profits, but as it is, it seems to be few people putting up these "worthless items" prefering to sell them themselves instead of working for their corporate agents.
*sighs*
Drink StarsiÖ + [DS] Haulage
Production Division
Caldari State Citizen
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.07.14 11:01:00 -
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lets look at those data sheets
I get perhaps 1000 of those per mission, average price in my region is around 25-30, I can quicksell them for 20, so thats only 20-30k extra per mission while cash bonus rewards tend to be somewhere around 100k.
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.07.14 11:01:00 -
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lets look at those data sheets
I get perhaps 1000 of those per mission, average price in my region is around 25-30, I can quicksell them for 20, so thats only 20-30k extra per mission while cash bonus rewards tend to be somewhere around 100k.
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Riggwelter
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Posted - 2004.07.14 11:22:00 -
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Alternatively
Rather than just picking an agent at random and complaining about the bonus rewards you get. Try going on to the world of eve website and check out what the corperation supplies and what you therefore get as bonus rewards from time to time.
In each faction you can normally find a corp that supplies something of use with a little research.
They who shout the loudest normally have the least to say. |
Riggwelter
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Posted - 2004.07.14 11:22:00 -
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Alternatively
Rather than just picking an agent at random and complaining about the bonus rewards you get. Try going on to the world of eve website and check out what the corperation supplies and what you therefore get as bonus rewards from time to time.
In each faction you can normally find a corp that supplies something of use with a little research.
They who shout the loudest normally have the least to say. |
Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.07.14 11:30:00 -
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Never had a crap reward, had some less valuable BONUSes sometimes, but with some effort even those bonuses where turned into nice iskies.
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.07.14 11:30:00 -
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Never had a crap reward, had some less valuable BONUSes sometimes, but with some effort even those bonuses where turned into nice iskies.
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:45:00 -
[11]
 Originally by: Sammira
Edited by: Sammira on 14/07/2004 10:54:19
Well, you have several avenues open to you from what I can see.
1)Haul them yourself to a buyer. often a long distance
2)Sell to a local pilot who has a buy order up close buy
3)Put them up for sale at a decent price. You got them as rewards, so they are "free" technically. If say you put up the goods at 50% of market price, you will doubtless get a trader like myself who is willing to travel, buy them and move them to another location for sale at a profit to both the seller and to the buyer.
Problem is, you have to have the goods at a price that will enduce people to buy your goods to sell on. Unless they area already heading in that direction without a cargo, the profit derived from the goods will determine who quickly your items sell.
What is your location, perhaps I can offer you a deal for your "worthless" items to your profit and mine.
I have just finished buying hydrogen batteries from a pilot which when sold will net me around 1.2 million profit from the single run of 15 jumps. I can make 500 thousand on the return leg. Both pilots whom i buy from make a good profit on the items they sell to me, and they spend only afew seconds to set-up the sale orders, rather than spending time hauling the goods looking for markets.
If more people did this perhaps I could make more profits, but as it is, it seems to be few people putting up these "worthless items" prefering to sell them themselves instead of working for their corporate agents.
*sighs*
You know if you posted what item you would like to buy and for what prices you might get more agent runners who would rather not haul all of their crap all over EVE. Then you could get more of a profit.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sammira
Edited by: Sammira on 14/07/2004 10:54:19
Well, you have several avenues open to you from what I can see.
1)Haul them yourself to a buyer. often a long distance
2)Sell to a local pilot who has a buy order up close buy
3)Put them up for sale at a decent price. You got them as rewards, so they are "free" technically. If say you put up the goods at 50% of market price, you will doubtless get a trader like myself who is willing to travel, buy them and move them to another location for sale at a profit to both the seller and to the buyer.
Problem is, you have to have the goods at a price that will enduce people to buy your goods to sell on. Unless they area already heading in that direction without a cargo, the profit derived from the goods will determine who quickly your items sell.
What is your location, perhaps I can offer you a deal for your "worthless" items to your profit and mine.
I have just finished buying hydrogen batteries from a pilot which when sold will net me around 1.2 million profit from the single run of 15 jumps. I can make 500 thousand on the return leg. Both pilots whom i buy from make a good profit on the items they sell to me, and they spend only afew seconds to set-up the sale orders, rather than spending time hauling the goods looking for markets.
If more people did this perhaps I could make more profits, but as it is, it seems to be few people putting up these "worthless items" prefering to sell them themselves instead of working for their corporate agents.
*sighs*
You know if you posted what item you would like to buy and for what prices you might get more agent runners who would rather not haul all of their crap all over EVE. Then you could get more of a profit.
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Hans Schinkel
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:59:00 -
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Oxygen and water. If I could be bothered to haul them all over the universe I'd be a few million Isk wealthier.
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Hans Schinkel
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:59:00 -
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Oxygen and water. If I could be bothered to haul them all over the universe I'd be a few million Isk wealthier.
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Kahn Moquil
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Posted - 2004.07.14 13:05:00 -
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My current agent seems to have lost her interest in rockets and light missiles and has started to dump them all on me. I most have enough explosives by now to blow up a medium sized moon... But I have long ago learned not to care about mission rewards, I run missions for standings increase (to get acces to better R&D agents) and for implant rewards. Once you sell your first mem implant, you won't care about crap bonus rewards...
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Kahn Moquil
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Posted - 2004.07.14 13:05:00 -
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My current agent seems to have lost her interest in rockets and light missiles and has started to dump them all on me. I most have enough explosives by now to blow up a medium sized moon... But I have long ago learned not to care about mission rewards, I run missions for standings increase (to get acces to better R&D agents) and for implant rewards. Once you sell your first mem implant, you won't care about crap bonus rewards...
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.07.14 13:34:00 -
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Some agent bonuses are worse than isk, some work out better. Picking an agent to maximise which side of the equation you fall is part of the fun.
AFAIK, there are only 2 rewards that are totally useless. They are:
1) Skill books for skills everybody has anyway (i.e. mining)
2) Endless multiple bpos for things like small ammo and basic modules that nobody uses.
The solution ? Give these items a reprocess value (like pirate logs) Even if it's only 1 zyd or something, it would at least give them some value, and an alternative to just trashing them and moving on.
Please feel free to let me know if I missed something.
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.07.14 13:34:00 -
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Some agent bonuses are worse than isk, some work out better. Picking an agent to maximise which side of the equation you fall is part of the fun.
AFAIK, there are only 2 rewards that are totally useless. They are:
1) Skill books for skills everybody has anyway (i.e. mining)
2) Endless multiple bpos for things like small ammo and basic modules that nobody uses.
The solution ? Give these items a reprocess value (like pirate logs) Even if it's only 1 zyd or something, it would at least give them some value, and an alternative to just trashing them and moving on.
Please feel free to let me know if I missed something.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.07.14 13:37:00 -
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I am tired of all these Fusion Reactors. Man they keep popping up in my hanger for a 2 jump courier mission. hehehehe Should I sell these. Nawww
What we should consider instead of finding what we dont want lets try something new.
What would be cool to have in regular agent rewards?
I would love some location tokens. It would be cool to get a few tokens that I could turn in to my agent and he would give me a locate.
I would like minerals.
I would like npc logs for thier enemies.
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Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |
Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.07.14 13:37:00 -
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I am tired of all these Fusion Reactors. Man they keep popping up in my hanger for a 2 jump courier mission. hehehehe Should I sell these. Nawww
What we should consider instead of finding what we dont want lets try something new.
What would be cool to have in regular agent rewards?
I would love some location tokens. It would be cool to get a few tokens that I could turn in to my agent and he would give me a locate.
I would like minerals.
I would like npc logs for thier enemies.
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Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |
Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.07.14 15:09:00 -
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small arms,
hell, i had like 500 marines, 2000 small arms,
i could take over a station! but no..
they're just useless items that can't even be reprocessed :/
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.07.14 15:09:00 -
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small arms,
hell, i had like 500 marines, 2000 small arms,
i could take over a station! but no..
they're just useless items that can't even be reprocessed :/
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Sammira
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Posted - 2004.07.14 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Maud Dib
You know if you posted what item you would like to buy and for what prices you might get more agent runners who would rather not haul all of their crap all over EVE. Then you could get more of a profit.
A very good point Citizen, but I feel that posting want-to-buy's in these areas of gal-net would be . . against the ISD rules from what i understand. And buy orders in the market section of gal-net tend to get buried so very very quickly.
A conundrum really. I could post a price list I am willing to buy at, but the odds of of it being seen are low. Whether people are willing to sell at those prices is another matter. I tend to scout region wide orders of items and take the choice larger sell orders i find en masse.
I will see what i can do to get around this to profit the agent mrunners and myself as a trader.
Drink StarsiÖ + [DS] Haulage
Production Division
Caldari State Citizen
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Sammira
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Posted - 2004.07.14 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Maud Dib
You know if you posted what item you would like to buy and for what prices you might get more agent runners who would rather not haul all of their crap all over EVE. Then you could get more of a profit.
A very good point Citizen, but I feel that posting want-to-buy's in these areas of gal-net would be . . against the ISD rules from what i understand. And buy orders in the market section of gal-net tend to get buried so very very quickly.
A conundrum really. I could post a price list I am willing to buy at, but the odds of of it being seen are low. Whether people are willing to sell at those prices is another matter. I tend to scout region wide orders of items and take the choice larger sell orders i find en masse.
I will see what i can do to get around this to profit the agent mrunners and myself as a trader.
Drink StarsiÖ + [DS] Haulage
Production Division
Caldari State Citizen
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Nova X
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Posted - 2004.07.14 17:36:00 -
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Fusion reactors do actually sell. Try getting rid of 10K garbage  |
Nova X
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Posted - 2004.07.14 17:36:00 -
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Fusion reactors do actually sell. Try getting rid of 10K garbage |
Xron
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Posted - 2004.07.14 17:40:00 -
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You can always put your bulk "rewards" up on escrow. I recently sold 196k or so of reports...albeit at a much lower price than the going price...but I did not have to haul them and they were just sitting around...way I see it, I made a decent profit and the hauler made a nice profit as well.
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Xron
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Posted - 2004.07.14 17:40:00 -
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You can always put your bulk "rewards" up on escrow. I recently sold 196k or so of reports...albeit at a much lower price than the going price...but I did not have to haul them and they were just sitting around...way I see it, I made a decent profit and the hauler made a nice profit as well.
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Brather
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Posted - 2004.07.14 17:43:00 -
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my agent gave up on giving me garbage at arround 40k garbage now he thinks bantams are the thing of the future got about 40 of them but no implant yet....
and as for the bantams as soon as my ref eff hits 5 they're gone and turned into mins.
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Brather
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Posted - 2004.07.14 17:43:00 -
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my agent gave up on giving me garbage at arround 40k garbage now he thinks bantams are the thing of the future got about 40 of them but no implant yet....
and as for the bantams as soon as my ref eff hits 5 they're gone and turned into mins.
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.07.14 19:14:00 -
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Money, T2 Parts, Carbon, Construction Blocks, BPO's (crappy ones)...the Occassional Implant
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.07.14 19:14:00 -
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Money, T2 Parts, Carbon, Construction Blocks, BPO's (crappy ones)...the Occassional Implant
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Wyckoff
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Posted - 2004.07.14 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Harisdrop
I am tired of all these Fusion Reactors. Man they keep popping up in my hanger for a 2 jump courier mission. hehehehe Should I sell these. Nawww
Fusion Reactors!? And you are complaining!?
Rewards that consist of R&D stuff: There is nothing better. Whether you wish to sell each of the Reactors for $10K apeice (and getting 60 at once means $600K for a 2 jump mission) or, if they aren't worth the ISK, they always provide Bucket loads of Noxium/Zyd/Mega for scrap.
I choose my Agent's Corp from what that corp offered. Recently, I have noticed an increase in Small Ammo and Rockets, but that is a marked improvement over the 3 Small Infared Frequency Crystal BPO's that I used to get.
So, yes, I have received a Hauler full of Crap, but when comparing that to the Hauler full of Quality ****nit, it more than works out Positive!
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Wyckoff
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Posted - 2004.07.14 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Harisdrop
I am tired of all these Fusion Reactors. Man they keep popping up in my hanger for a 2 jump courier mission. hehehehe Should I sell these. Nawww
Fusion Reactors!? And you are complaining!?
Rewards that consist of R&D stuff: There is nothing better. Whether you wish to sell each of the Reactors for $10K apeice (and getting 60 at once means $600K for a 2 jump mission) or, if they aren't worth the ISK, they always provide Bucket loads of Noxium/Zyd/Mega for scrap.
I choose my Agent's Corp from what that corp offered. Recently, I have noticed an increase in Small Ammo and Rockets, but that is a marked improvement over the 3 Small Infared Frequency Crystal BPO's that I used to get.
So, yes, I have received a Hauler full of Crap, but when comparing that to the Hauler full of Quality ****nit, it more than works out Positive!
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"I Type with my Tongue" |
Hanse Davion
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Posted - 2004.07.14 19:49:00 -
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The real problem is not the rewards because everything EXCEPT for the crappy BPOs and Skillbooks has a value somewhere in Eve.
What we need is a market view that can check regional prices outside the region you are currently in. What I would like to see is those Market and Distrubution Agents be given the ability to check prices on a item Eve wide for a price. Not sure off the top of my head how many regions there are in Eve. Actually even better idea is that say a lvl3 Amarr agent for one of the shipping corps can give you the best price for all of Amarr space. One have 1 or 2 corps agents that do this.
Another idea would be for the NPCs to actually do what the game info says they do. Specifically they should be buying and selling the items it says they are on thier info screen. If this was taking place then we would be able to see those less then great rewards within the region we in without having to do alot of hauling.
2005.01.21 05:09:06combatYour Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Priest, wrecking for 533.1 damage. |
Hanse Davion
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Posted - 2004.07.14 19:49:00 -
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The real problem is not the rewards because everything EXCEPT for the crappy BPOs and Skillbooks has a value somewhere in Eve.
What we need is a market view that can check regional prices outside the region you are currently in. What I would like to see is those Market and Distrubution Agents be given the ability to check prices on a item Eve wide for a price. Not sure off the top of my head how many regions there are in Eve. Actually even better idea is that say a lvl3 Amarr agent for one of the shipping corps can give you the best price for all of Amarr space. One have 1 or 2 corps agents that do this.
Another idea would be for the NPCs to actually do what the game info says they do. Specifically they should be buying and selling the items it says they are on thier info screen. If this was taking place then we would be able to see those less then great rewards within the region we in without having to do alot of hauling.
2005.01.21 05:09:06combatYour Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Priest, wrecking for 533.1 damage. |
Riggwelter
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Posted - 2004.07.14 20:04:00 -
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Well as well using the world of eve to see what NPC corps sell and therefore give as rewards. You can also use this to find the corp that buys that reward you think is worthless your agent is currently giving you.
A little effort and your sorted.
They who shout the loudest normally have the least to say. |
Riggwelter
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Posted - 2004.07.14 20:04:00 -
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Well as well using the world of eve to see what NPC corps sell and therefore give as rewards. You can also use this to find the corp that buys that reward you think is worthless your agent is currently giving you.
A little effort and your sorted.
They who shout the loudest normally have the least to say. |
Grimpak
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Posted - 2004.07.15 01:36:00 -
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Holloreels and consumer electronics... at least I can hack databases and have a lifetime suplly of p0rn holloreels
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2004.07.15 01:36:00 -
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Holloreels and consumer electronics... at least I can hack databases and have a lifetime suplly of p0rn holloreels
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Tredegar
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Posted - 2004.07.15 05:00:00 -
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Grim, holoreels and consumer electronics actually have a use. A lot of R&D agents need holoreels to bring up the morale of the troops and consumer electronics can be used for TL2 Blueprint Research.
"I may be a craven little coward, but I'm a greedy craven little coward." Daffy Duck |
Tredegar
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Posted - 2004.07.15 05:00:00 -
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Grim, holoreels and consumer electronics actually have a use. A lot of R&D agents need holoreels to bring up the morale of the troops and consumer electronics can be used for TL2 Blueprint Research.
"I may be a craven little coward, but I'm a greedy craven little coward." Daffy Duck |
Lord Artemis
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Posted - 2004.07.15 06:14:00 -
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please convo/evemail me, for those that wish to sell bulk amounts of crap/trade goods, a few of my corpmates do hauling 90% of the time they are on. price depends on jumps/value
let me know
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Lord Artemis
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Posted - 2004.07.15 06:14:00 -
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please convo/evemail me, for those that wish to sell bulk amounts of crap/trade goods, a few of my corpmates do hauling 90% of the time they are on. price depends on jumps/value
let me know
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Dray
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Posted - 2004.07.15 07:28:00 -
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my agent runner alt also has enough munitions to supply a warring planet, tho i get allsorts of junk, u can get rid of almost everything tbh just a case of making the effort, but.....
my agent runner is an amarrian, doing missions for the amarr navy flying amarr ships, so why does my agent insist on giving me hybrid dam mods every so often, i have around 200 mag stab 1's 
I picked up this ace book today everyone rates it as a must buy for the budding military genius, tho ive decided to rename it as "Sun Tzu's art of the bloody obvious" |
Dray
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Posted - 2004.07.15 07:28:00 -
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my agent runner alt also has enough munitions to supply a warring planet, tho i get allsorts of junk, u can get rid of almost everything tbh just a case of making the effort, but.....
my agent runner is an amarrian, doing missions for the amarr navy flying amarr ships, so why does my agent insist on giving me hybrid dam mods every so often, i have around 200 mag stab 1's
I picked up this ace book today everyone rates it as a must buy for the budding military genius, tho ive decided to rename it as "Sun Tzu's art of the bloody obvious" |
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