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Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2008.12.07 01:46:00 - [31] Originally by: G'kek To be fair, PvP's in 0.0 sec seem to be the biggest cash cows. Pirates normally seem to buy low level frigs. That's why I was wondering if anyone had tried a concerted effort to fight piracy as they seem to be one of the main barriers to - stealing a Teladi phrase - Profitsssssss.... LOL. You don't know wtf you're talking about. At all. Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. Death of Virtue is Recruiting
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.12.07 01:49:00 - [32] Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 07/12/2008 01:49:51 Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: G'kek To be fair, PvP's in 0.0 sec seem to be the biggest cash cows. Pirates normally seem to buy low level frigs. That's why I was wondering if anyone had tried a concerted effort to fight piracy as they seem to be one of the main barriers to - stealing a Teladi phrase - Profitsssssss.... LOL. You don't know wtf you're talking about. At all. I think he has in his mind fighting M3's around asteroids and he confuses NPC pirates with player pirates. No reason for players to band together to fight piracy, CCP is kicking pirates in the nuts ennough. o.0 --- I smack just for myself. * Your signature file is to large. Please note: we do not allow signature files larger than 24000 bytes - Fallout
Dun Bynar Caldari	Posted - 2008.12.07 02:11:00 - [33] Originally by: Muad' Dib Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 07/12/2008 01:49:51 Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: G'kek To be fair, PvP's in 0.0 sec seem to be the biggest cash cows. Pirates normally seem to buy low level frigs. That's why I was wondering if anyone had tried a concerted effort to fight piracy as they seem to be one of the main barriers to - stealing a Teladi phrase - Profitsssssss.... LOL. You don't know wtf you're talking about. At all. I think he has in his mind fighting M3's around asteroids and he confuses NPC pirates with player pirates. No reason for players to band together to fight piracy, CCP is kicking pirates in the nuts ennough. o.0 A player who had been away for some time asked just a few weeks ago about the roving wolf packs of old.....and I had to laugh as I told him of the cry baby wannabe pirates of today, who roam around in packs of 10 looking for the ratter or solo shuttle and scream to hi heaven BLOB!!! when met by a fleet of 15 pilots prepared for combat. pirates roflmao.(dun<--- points to post above)15vs10.....10vs1 which is a blob? A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true.
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.12.07 02:16:00 - [34] 10vs1 = no andrenaline 10vs15 = andrenaline --- I smack just for myself. * Your signature file is to large. Please note: we do not allow signature files larger than 24000 bytes - Fallout
Dun Bynar Caldari	Posted - 2008.12.07 02:25:00 - [35] Originally by: Muad' Dib 10vs1 = no andrenaline 10vs15 = andrenaline Agreed m8! wish you flew around my space! A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true.
FoulBeast Gallente Malum Crusis IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.12.07 02:26:00 - [36] Edited by: FoulBeast on 07/12/2008 02:26:51 Originally by: Dun Bynar Lol m8 if they were as prevelent as you proport I should see your name every day.......not. EPIC FAIL But please, R3 is a very welcoming place for pirates( heheheehe) it only holds the highest kill ratio in all of providence. The next highest would be ymp, the other gateway to prov from the empire where pirates seem to make thier home.........hummmmm I wonder why that is ? WAT?
Dun Bynar Caldari	Posted - 2008.12.07 02:30:00 - [37] Originally by: FoulBeast Edited by: FoulBeast on 07/12/2008 02:26:51 Originally by: Dun Bynar Lol m8 if they were as prevelent as you proport I should see your name every day.......not. EPIC FAIL But please, R3 is a very welcoming place for pirates( heheheehe) it only holds the highest kill ratio in all of providence. The next highest would be ymp, the other gateway to prov from the empire where pirates seem to make thier home.........hummmmm I wonder why that is ? WAT? please. I have trouble with single word thought trains.... perhaps a bit more info on what you lack in understanding. A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true.
Kavu Genos Occidere Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.12.07 02:43:00 - [38] Originally by: G'kek To be fair, PvP's in 0.0 sec seem to be the biggest cash cows. Pirates normally seem to buy low level frigs. That's why I was wondering if anyone had tried a concerted effort to fight piracy as they seem to be one of the main barriers to - stealing a Teladi phrase - Profitsssssss.... thats either really good troll, or really ignorant thinking
SDragoon	Posted - 2008.12.07 09:32:00 - [39] Edited by: SDragoon on 07/12/2008 09:34:03 There are a few problems with the idea of a low sec police force. Since a good deal of catching someone in low sec relies on catching them off guard, due to the lack of bubbles, pirates can be hard to pin down. As an example: mining, ratting and missioning are somewhat boring. So often these players will do something else or doze off. This gives the pirates times to move into position and catch their victims. You lose this crucial advantage when fighting pirates, because they tend to be focused on the game in search of targets. They will notice the anti pirates in local. That and anytime pirates fly bigger ships that are actually catchable in lowsec, the tend to bring scouts along. So you won't often see pirates mindlessly stumbling onto your anti pirate gate camp in something bigger then a frigate or a recon. In general, pirates are harder to catch then your average carebear. This lack of action leads to the second problem. In that being an anti-pirate is very boring. Since you are limited in regards to targets most players don't have the drive to stick around on a gate killing next to nothing or chase pirates around on a wild goose chase, and thus these pilots will find something more amusing to do, like pirating. So unless you plan on paying people I doubt you'd be able to muster a decent sized force.
kessah The Accursed	Posted - 2008.12.07 14:15:00 - [40] 1 vs 10 thats fun :) 1 vs 10 + falcon, no fun

Dun Bynar Caldari	Posted - 2008.12.07 14:24:00 - [41] Originally by: kessah 1 vs 10 + falcon, no fun I know, ...but like nano's pre nerf they are the order of the day. but have no fear...another nerf is on the horizen....Ban new rules and all future nerfs! A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true.
Arekhon 0ff-Peak Esoteric Cutthroats	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:32:00 - [42] Originally by: Dun Bynar Originally by: Muad' Dib Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 07/12/2008 01:49:51 Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: G'kek To be fair, PvP's in 0.0 sec seem to be the biggest cash cows. Pirates normally seem to buy low level frigs. That's why I was wondering if anyone had tried a concerted effort to fight piracy as they seem to be one of the main barriers to - stealing a Teladi phrase - Profitsssssss.... LOL. You don't know wtf you're talking about. At all. I think he has in his mind fighting M3's around asteroids and he confuses NPC pirates with player pirates. No reason for players to band together to fight piracy, CCP is kicking pirates in the nuts ennough. o.0 A player who had been away for some time asked just a few weeks ago about the roving wolf packs of old.....and I had to laugh as I told him of the cry baby wannabe pirates of today, who roam around in packs of 10 looking for the ratter or solo shuttle and scream to hi heaven BLOB!!! when met by a fleet of 15 pilots prepared for combat. pirates roflmao.(dun<--- points to post above)15vs10.....10vs1 which is a blob? it is not pirates that ruined the wolf packs..... it was the carebears constant whinning and CCP's subsequent nerfs that RUINED solo/small gang piracy... everyone else is just adapting to CCP's bullsht nerfs that f*k up any game play other than mission whoring or fleet warfare
Dun Bynar Caldari	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:16:00 - [43] Originally by: Arekhon it is not pirates that ruined the wolf packs..... it was the carebears constant whinning and CCP's subsequent nerfs that RUINED solo/small gang piracy... everyone else is just adapting to CCP's bullsht nerfs that fk up any game play other than mission whoring or fleet warfare[/quote No offence m8...but read the whine above...ganksters(90% of todays wannabe pirates) attack only weak soft targets, run and scream blob when met with = or slightly superior #'s cuz they dont want a fight, hell scared of one. A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true.*
Sojiuro Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:19:00 - [44] the fact of the matter is, that anti piracy just isnt that feasible. True anti-pirates, (and there were some) never go flashy red. This is to maintain the facade that they always side with the police force and commit no crimes. Unfortunately any pirate that is not -5 (flashy) will always have the advantage due to the fact that they can pick their fights. If an anti-pirate is playing bait in a belt, and a yellow target comes into the belt and is just sitting there looking at the anti-pirate, he has an advantage. He can choose when to initiate a fight or run. Anti-piracy currently isn't feasible or fun.
Rellik B00n	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:19:00 - [45] Originally by: Bellum Eternus CCP has been working on stamping out piracy in all it's forms for a while now. They're very close to eliminating it once and for all. this, and also the sec-status mechanic discourages anti-pirates from engaging: Whats the point of going out to kill pirates if you have to become one to achieve it?
Arekhon 0ff-Peak Esoteric Cutthroats	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:46:00 - [46] Originally by: Dun Bynar Originally by: Arekhon it is not pirates that ruined the wolf packs..... it was the carebears constant whinning and CCP's subsequent nerfs that RUINED solo/small gang piracy... everyone else is just adapting to CCP's bullsht nerfs that f*k up any game play other than mission whoring or fleet warfare[/quote No offence m8...but read the whine above...ganksters(90% of todays wannabe pirates) attack only weak soft targets, run and scream blob when met with = or slightly superior #'s cuz they dont want a fight, hell scared of one. 90%.....yea i'll give you that.
Dun Bynar Caldari	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:56:00 - [47] Edited by: Dun Bynar on 07/12/2008 16:59:20 lol..sec stat hit!!! and fyi..low sec doesnt make you a pirate.nothing a lil ratting doesnt cure. perhaps you confuse roleplaying anti pirates with real protectors of sovern space....believe me when I tell you running into low sec to hide will not save you from cva if yo have been pirating in prov. Although stationing up is a good, wise, and prudent choise. As for known pirates having any "UPPER" hand I beg to differ...once kos'ed you dont get anymore benifits of the doubt. Where pirates have the upper hand is where they have yet to pirate in cva space..until then they are considered nuet and of course NRDSI prohibits firing first on any nuet, even when you KNOW they are up to no good! But its all good, crooks be crooks, and eventually show thier colors, keeping pirate hunters of prov. with plenty to do while the care bears labor away. In short, and for the last time it is very possible to be pirate free in 0.0, and it not only works...but promotes great carebear interests! IMHO A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true.


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