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G'kek
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:22:00 -
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Just curious if there had ever been a concerted effort by players in Eve to punish pirates? As kind of low/null sec volunteer police force if you will. It seems piracy is a major problem in game and while of course it does seem like a fun profession if you're inclined to griefing and annoying people - it does eat into profit margins somewhat. Just curious if there have ever been any concerted attempts at fighting piracy and if so - how succesful were they?
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters
DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:25:00 -
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Piracy isn't a problem - you are.
uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
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G'kek
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:27:00 -
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If it wasn't for industrialists and miners we'd all be flying frigates. :-p
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Superfailsauce
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:35:00 -
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If it wasn't for pirates and pvpers you wouldn't have anyone to sell anything to
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G'kek
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:51:00 -
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To be fair, PvP's in 0.0 sec seem to be the biggest cash cows. Pirates normally seem to buy low level frigs. That's why I was wondering if anyone had tried a concerted effort to fight piracy as they seem to be one of the main barriers to - stealing a Teladi phrase - Profitsssssss....
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narccissa
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:56:00 -
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 Originally by: G'kek
To be fair, PvP's in 0.0 sec seem to be the biggest cash cows. Pirates normally seem to buy low level frigs. That's why I was wondering if anyone had tried a concerted effort to fight piracy as they seem to be one of the main barriers to - stealing a Teladi phrase - Profitsssssss....
not really. Pirates buy a lot stuff.
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RedSplat
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:57:00 -
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Technically CVA have a pirate free region
The fact that they harbour pirates that are on their best behaviour in Providence, but pillage elsewhere, and use CVA as a safety net (anyone that turns up looking to pick a fight gets blobbed) is a nice little partnership. 
There was even talk of French toast
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GrEy FoX2t7
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Posted - 2008.12.06 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat
Technically CVA have a fun free region
Fix'd
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.12.06 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: G'kek
To be fair, PvP's in 0.0 sec seem to be the biggest cash cows. Pirates normally seem to buy low level frigs. That's why I was wondering if anyone had tried a concerted effort to fight piracy as they seem to be one of the main barriers to - stealing a Teladi phrase - Profitsssssss....
Definitely a Troll imo because nobody can be this uneducated.
A Pirates Perspective
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G'kek
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Posted - 2008.12.06 18:13:00 -
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Nope. I'm just a newbie. Always glad to be re-educated. So I take it that it has never been attempted?
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.12.06 18:16:00 -
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I think a lot of people go into lowsec thinking they're going to be "anti-pirates". There was a time when it seemed everybody was calling himself an anti-pirate. Most of them go in with good intentions, go on roaming fleets, set up gatecamps etc waiting for red flashy pirate targets to come through. They bypass miners, ratters, mission runners, couriers of BPOs, and wait. They wait and wait. Then a bunch of pirate battleships comes through the gate and pops them all.
The next day out, they shoot the first miner they see, decide that they like it, and drop the "anti-"...
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Oscardoodle
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.12.06 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: G'kek
Pirates normally seem to buy low level frigs.
Yes...to use to cyno in pirate carriers.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat
Technically CVA have a pirate free region
The fact that they harbour pirates that are on their best behaviour in Providence, but pillage elsewhere, and use CVA as a safety net (anyone that turns up looking to pick a fight gets blobbed) is a nice little partnership.
CVA try, but I visit them every day and killz their doodz, they blob but have yet to catch me! if you are on your toes you can go right into providence / low sec domain entrance, kill them and get away no problem, just keep on the move and be prepared for lots of neuting battleships, which is the defenders choice these days for defending ''their turf''
people who think CVA space is unfun because you get blobbed have got it wrong, you can go into cva space, get a fight, and they will chase you in circles all day, its endless entertainment for pirates who have the constitution for it, I would guess over the last 8 weeks I have about 70 to 100 or so kills just from the area around mamet / misaba / ziriert
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Tai Paktu
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.06 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: G'kek
It seems piracy is a major problem in game
It's us! We're the problem in the OP. Now stop forum poasting about it and come get us. Seriously, I miss anti-pie alliances, they were fun.
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JafoPBCFR
One Stop Mining Shop
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Posted - 2008.12.06 19:56:00 -
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theres been a few ANTIPIRATE corps that have tried.
But honestly 'What would the world be with out Capt Hook?"
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G'kek
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Posted - 2008.12.06 20:04:00 -
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Without Hook it would be Profitttts!
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DubanFP
Caldari
R.U.S.T.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 20:20:00 -
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Naa. Most antipirates either quit or get good and realize that the only thing they gain from being an antipirate is the inability to attack 3/4 of their potential targets targets and wind up going pirate themselves.
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ScaR97731
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Posted - 2008.12.06 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: G'kek
Just curious if there had ever been a concerted effort by players in Eve to punish pirates? As kind of low/null sec volunteer police force if you will. It seems piracy is a major problem in game and while of course it does seem like a fun profession if you're inclined to griefing and annoying people - it does eat into profit margins somewhat. Just curious if there have ever been any concerted attempts at fighting piracy and if so - how succesful were they?
Good luck with that. The pirates in EVE are like vermin; they are everywhere, and trying to eradicate them would be a major undertaking.
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Kirra Liu
Gemini Industries Inc
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.06 20:34:00 -
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There have been plenty of Anti-Pirate groups around, but very few decent ones. Most anti-pirates end up getting sick of not getting loads of action that they change their policy to NBSI "Not Blue Shoot It" and end up shooting anyone that hasn't been offered standings, essentially making them pirates.
Seen a few people come on the forums telling everyone that they are forming the biggest coalation of anti-pirates ever to be seen, made up of all the peacefull people of New Eden, but this gets laughed at and never heard of again. Most carebears have no intrest in fighting so when they band together to rid the world of the evil folks it usualy comes with a lashing of failsauce.
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Ard UnjiiGo
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.12.06 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: G'kek
Without Hook it would be Profitttts!
Two things with this:
1)The game isn't (for most people) just watching the little number on the left of your game screen get bigger and bigger.
2)Pirates create many opportunities for entrepenurial and bold traders/industrialists to make quite a profit. If you don't have those qualities, don't blame us.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.12.06 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: G'kek
If it wasn't for industrialists and miners we'd all be flying frigates. :-p
What's wrong with flying frigates? 
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Dun Bynar
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.06 21:42:00 -
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Edited by: Dun Bynar on 06/12/2008 21:43:52
Originally by: G'kek
Just curious if there had ever been a concerted effort by players in Eve to punish pirates? As kind of low/null sec volunteer police force if you will. It seems piracy is a major problem in game and while of course it does seem like a fun profession if you're inclined to griefing and annoying people - it does eat into profit margins somewhat. Just curious if there have ever been any concerted attempts at fighting piracy and if so - how succesful were they?
Of course there is. CVA, who holds Providence is dedicated to the support of the Holy Ammarian Empire, Emperior, Princess, and the destruction of pirates, and thier agenda inside CVA space. This is done with a concerted effort of the member corps inside Providence.
A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true. |
Dun Bynar
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.06 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Dun Bynar on 06/12/2008 21:59:24
Originally by: Gneeznow
Originally by: RedSplat
Technically CVA have a pirate free region
The fact that they harbour pirates that are on their best behaviour in Providence, but pillage elsewhere, and use CVA as a safety net (anyone that turns up looking to pick a fight gets blobbed) is a nice little partnership.
CVA try, but I visit them every day and killz their doodz, they blob but have yet to catch me! if you are on your toes you can go right into providence / low sec domain entrance, kill them and get away no problem, just keep on the move and be prepared for lots of neuting battleships, which is the defenders choice these days for defending ''their turf''
people who think CVA space is unfun because you get blobbed have got it wrong, you can go into cva space, get a fight, and they will chase you in circles all day, its endless entertainment for pirates who have the constitution for it, I would guess over the last 8 weeks I have about 70 to 100 or so kills just from the area around mamet / misaba / ziriert
Hummm looked on kb's and dont see any of your claimed kills inside providence...would you mind posting some of your kbs plz..otherwise I call bs.
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Tai Paktu
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.06 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: ScaR97731
Originally by: G'kek
Just curious if there had ever been a concerted effort by players in Eve to punish pirates? As kind of low/null sec volunteer police force if you will. It seems piracy is a major problem in game and while of course it does seem like a fun profession if you're inclined to griefing and annoying people - it does eat into profit margins somewhat. Just curious if there have ever been any concerted attempts at fighting piracy and if so - how succesful were they?
Good luck with that. The pirates in EVE are like vermin; they are everywhere, and trying to eradicate them would be a major undertaking.
The alt talks the talk, but will he do something about it?
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Alowishus
the united
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Posted - 2008.12.06 22:18:00 -
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Ell oh ell.
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Arazel Chainfire
Dissolution Of Eternity
Ethikos Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.06 22:31:00 -
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There have been concerted efforts before, but only in small sections of space. I used to be part of one that kept a pocket that could only be entered via haigilur gate pretty much free of pirates. However, after a certain point you get too good at it and the people who were in it for the fights all leave and you no longer have an antipirate force. That particular group lasted for... about a year or so.
-Arazel
Originally by: Tsanse Kinske
Mutual Incomprehension is one of the Four Horsemen of most internet arguments, I guess, along with Unfettered Hostility, Overwhelming Vagueness, and Lack of Evidence.
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Trinity Council.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: G'kek
Just curious if there had ever been a concerted effort by players in Eve to punish pirates? As kind of low/null sec volunteer police force if you will. It seems piracy is a major problem in game and while of course it does seem like a fun profession if you're inclined to griefing and annoying people - it does eat into profit margins somewhat. Just curious if there have ever been any concerted attempts at fighting piracy and if so - how succesful were they?
what a conincidence
i was traveling from gallente space to minnie space, and alon gthe way, noticed a rather large flashy red fleet warping to the same gate as i, so i, naturally curious, follow
on the other side, they were slaughtering some anti pirates
answer your question?
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dun Bynar
Hummm looked on kb's and dont see any of your claimed kills inside providence...
kb links arent allowed / look harder
Originally by: Dun Bynar
would you mind posting some of your kbs plz..otherwise I call bs.
/care
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Dun Bynar
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.07 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow
Originally by: Dun Bynar
Hummm looked on kb's and dont see any of your claimed kills inside providence...
kb links arent allowed / look harder
Originally by: Dun Bynar
would you mind posting some of your kbs plz..otherwise I call bs.
/care
Lol m8 if they were as prevelent as you proport I should see your name every day.......not. EPIC FAIL
But please, R3 is a very welcoming place for pirates( heheheehe) it only holds the highest kill ratio in all of providence. The next highest would be ymp, the other gateway to prov from the empire where pirates seem to make thier home.........hummmmm I wonder why that is ?
A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true. |
Bellum Eternus
Gallente
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.12.07 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: G'kek
Just curious if there had ever been a concerted effort by players in Eve to punish pirates? As kind of low/null sec volunteer police force if you will. It seems piracy is a major problem in game and while of course it does seem like a fun profession if you're inclined to griefing and annoying people - it does eat into profit margins somewhat. Just curious if there have ever been any concerted attempts at fighting piracy and if so - how succesful were they?
CCP has been working on stamping out piracy in all it's forms for a while now. They're very close to eliminating it once and for all.
Bellum Eternus
Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Death of Virtue is Recruiting
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.12.07 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: G'kek
To be fair, PvP's in 0.0 sec seem to be the biggest cash cows. Pirates normally seem to buy low level frigs. That's why I was wondering if anyone had tried a concerted effort to fight piracy as they seem to be one of the main barriers to - stealing a Teladi phrase - Profitsssssss....
LOL. You don't know wtf you're talking about. At all.
Bellum Eternus
Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Death of Virtue is Recruiting
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Muad' Dib
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.07 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 07/12/2008 01:49:51
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: G'kek
To be fair, PvP's in 0.0 sec seem to be the biggest cash cows. Pirates normally seem to buy low level frigs. That's why I was wondering if anyone had tried a concerted effort to fight piracy as they seem to be one of the main barriers to - stealing a Teladi phrase - Profitsssssss....
LOL. You don't know wtf you're talking about. At all.
I think he has in his mind fighting M3's around asteroids and he confuses NPC pirates with player pirates.
No reason for players to band together to fight piracy, CCP is kicking pirates in the nuts ennough. o.0
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Dun Bynar
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.07 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: Muad' Dib
Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 07/12/2008 01:49:51
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: G'kek
To be fair, PvP's in 0.0 sec seem to be the biggest cash cows. Pirates normally seem to buy low level frigs. That's why I was wondering if anyone had tried a concerted effort to fight piracy as they seem to be one of the main barriers to - stealing a Teladi phrase - Profitsssssss....
LOL. You don't know wtf you're talking about. At all.
I think he has in his mind fighting M3's around asteroids and he confuses NPC pirates with player pirates.
No reason for players to band together to fight piracy, CCP is kicking pirates in the nuts ennough. o.0
A player who had been away for some time asked just a few weeks ago about the roving wolf packs of old.....and I had to laugh as I told him of the cry baby wannabe pirates of today, who roam around in packs of 10 looking for the ratter or solo shuttle and scream to hi heaven BLOB!!! when met by a fleet of 15 pilots prepared for combat. pirates roflmao.(dun<--- points to post above)15vs10.....10vs1 which is a blob?
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Muad' Dib
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.07 02:16:00 -
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10vs1 = no andrenaline
10vs15 = andrenaline
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Dun Bynar
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.07 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Muad' Dib
10vs1 = no andrenaline
10vs15 = andrenaline
Agreed m8! wish you flew around my space!
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FoulBeast
Gallente
Malum Crusis
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.12.07 02:26:00 -
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Edited by: FoulBeast on 07/12/2008 02:26:51
Originally by: Dun Bynar
Lol m8 if they were as prevelent as you proport I should see your name every day.......not. EPIC FAIL
But please, R3 is a very welcoming place for pirates( heheheehe) it only holds the highest kill ratio in all of providence. The next highest would be ymp, the other gateway to prov from the empire where pirates seem to make thier home.........hummmmm I wonder why that is ?
WAT?
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Dun Bynar
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.07 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: FoulBeast
Edited by: FoulBeast on 07/12/2008 02:26:51
Originally by: Dun Bynar
Lol m8 if they were as prevelent as you proport I should see your name every day.......not. EPIC FAIL
But please, R3 is a very welcoming place for pirates( heheheehe) it only holds the highest kill ratio in all of providence. The next highest would be ymp, the other gateway to prov from the empire where pirates seem to make thier home.........hummmmm I wonder why that is ?
WAT?
please. I have trouble with single word thought trains.... perhaps a bit more info on what you lack in understanding.
A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true. |
Kavu
Genos Occidere
Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.12.07 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: G'kek
To be fair, PvP's in 0.0 sec seem to be the biggest cash cows. Pirates normally seem to buy low level frigs. That's why I was wondering if anyone had tried a concerted effort to fight piracy as they seem to be one of the main barriers to - stealing a Teladi phrase - Profitsssssss....
thats either really good troll, or really ignorant thinking
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SDragoon
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Posted - 2008.12.07 09:32:00 -
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Edited by: SDragoon on 07/12/2008 09:34:03
There are a few problems with the idea of a low sec police force.
Since a good deal of catching someone in low sec relies on catching them off guard, due to the lack of bubbles, pirates can be hard to pin down. As an example: mining, ratting and missioning are somewhat boring. So often these players will do something else or doze off. This gives the pirates times to move into position and catch their victims.
You lose this crucial advantage when fighting pirates, because they tend to be focused on the game in search of targets. They will notice the anti pirates in local. That and anytime pirates fly bigger ships that are actually catchable in lowsec, the tend to bring scouts along. So you won't often see pirates mindlessly stumbling onto your anti pirate gate camp in something bigger then a frigate or a recon. In general, pirates are harder to catch then your average carebear.
This lack of action leads to the second problem. In that being an anti-pirate is very boring. Since you are limited in regards to targets most players don't have the drive to stick around on a gate killing next to nothing or chase pirates around on a wild goose chase, and thus these pilots will find something more amusing to do, like pirating. So unless you plan on paying people I doubt you'd be able to muster a decent sized force.
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kessah
The Accursed
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Posted - 2008.12.07 14:15:00 -
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1 vs 10 thats fun :)
1 vs 10 + falcon, no fun 
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Dun Bynar
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.07 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: kessah
1 vs 10 + falcon, no fun
I know, ...but like nano's pre nerf they are the order of the day. but have no fear...another nerf is on the horizen....Ban new rules and all future nerfs!
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Arekhon
0ff-Peak Esoteric Cutthroats
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Posted - 2008.12.07 15:32:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Dun Bynar
Originally by: Muad' Dib
Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 07/12/2008 01:49:51
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: G'kek
To be fair, PvP's in 0.0 sec seem to be the biggest cash cows. Pirates normally seem to buy low level frigs. That's why I was wondering if anyone had tried a concerted effort to fight piracy as they seem to be one of the main barriers to - stealing a Teladi phrase - Profitsssssss....
LOL. You don't know wtf you're talking about. At all.
I think he has in his mind fighting M3's around asteroids and he confuses NPC pirates with player pirates.
No reason for players to band together to fight piracy, CCP is kicking pirates in the nuts ennough. o.0
A player who had been away for some time asked just a few weeks ago about the roving wolf packs of old.....and I had to laugh as I told him of the cry baby wannabe pirates of today, who roam around in packs of 10 looking for the ratter or solo shuttle and scream to hi heaven BLOB!!! when met by a fleet of 15 pilots prepared for combat. pirates roflmao.(dun<--- points to post above)15vs10.....10vs1 which is a blob?
it is not pirates that ruined the wolf packs.....
it was the carebears constant whinning and CCP's subsequent nerfs that RUINED solo/small gang piracy...
everyone else is just adapting to CCP's bullsh*t nerfs that f**k up any game play other than mission whoring or fleet warfare
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Dun Bynar
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.07 16:16:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Arekhon
it is not pirates that ruined the wolf packs.....
it was the carebears constant whinning and CCP's subsequent nerfs that RUINED solo/small gang piracy...
everyone else is just adapting to CCP's bullsh*t nerfs that f**k up any game play other than mission whoring or fleet warfare[/quote
No offence m8...but read the whine above...ganksters(90% of todays wannabe pirates) attack only weak soft targets, run and scream blob when met with = or slightly superior #'s cuz they dont want a fight, hell scared of one.
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Sojiuro
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.12.07 16:19:00 -
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the fact of the matter is, that anti piracy just isnt that feasible. True anti-pirates, (and there were some) never go flashy red. This is to maintain the facade that they always side with the police force and commit no crimes. Unfortunately any pirate that is not -5 (flashy) will always have the advantage due to the fact that they can pick their fights.
If an anti-pirate is playing bait in a belt, and a yellow target comes into the belt and is just sitting there looking at the anti-pirate, he has an advantage. He can choose when to initiate a fight or run. Anti-piracy currently isn't feasible or fun.
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Rellik B00n
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Posted - 2008.12.07 16:19:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
CCP has been working on stamping out piracy in all it's forms for a while now. They're very close to eliminating it once and for all.
this, and also the sec-status mechanic discourages anti-pirates from engaging: Whats the point of going out to kill pirates if you have to become one to achieve it?
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Arekhon
0ff-Peak Esoteric Cutthroats
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Posted - 2008.12.07 16:46:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Dun Bynar
Originally by: Arekhon
it is not pirates that ruined the wolf packs.....
it was the carebears constant whinning and CCP's subsequent nerfs that RUINED solo/small gang piracy...
everyone else is just adapting to CCP's bullsh*t nerfs that f**k up any game play other than mission whoring or fleet warfare[/quote
No offence m8...but read the whine above...ganksters(90% of todays wannabe pirates) attack only weak soft targets, run and scream blob when met with = or slightly superior #'s cuz they dont want a fight, hell scared of one.
90%.....yea i'll give you that.
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Dun Bynar
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.07 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: Dun Bynar on 07/12/2008 16:59:20
lol..sec stat hit!!! and fyi..low sec doesnt make you a pirate .nothing a lil ratting doesnt cure. perhaps you confuse roleplaying anti pirates with real protectors of sovern space....believe me when I tell you running into low sec to hide will not save you from cva if yo have been pirating in prov. Although stationing up is a good, wise, and prudent choise.
As for known pirates having any "UPPER" hand I beg to differ...once kos'ed you dont get anymore benifits of the doubt. Where pirates have the upper hand is where they have yet to pirate in cva space..until then they are considered nuet and of course NRDSI prohibits firing first on any nuet, even when you KNOW they are up to no good! But its all good, crooks be crooks, and eventually show thier colors, keeping pirate hunters of prov. with plenty to do while the care bears labor away.
In short, and for the last time it is very possible to be pirate free in 0.0, and it not only works...but promotes great carebear interests! IMHO
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