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Dyniss
BloodLust Enterprises Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2012.04.11 04:17:00 -
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Well I think hulks tanks are fine if properly fit. I can easily have a 20k unheated tank on my hulk plus I also keep security with the hulk too. I mine in 0.0 in alliance space and there is A LOT of tools at your disposal to stop people trying to pop your miners. Intel channels standing fleets and belt security. These measures alone will stop all but the large blobs (and at that point you just safe up since their usually spotted in intel) or the occasional logoffskie attempt. And like others have said the hulk is a industrial ship designed to mine ore not engage in combat. Even in real life militarys logistics and transport is closely guarded. Going out to mine alone (especially in empire) you're taking a risk and since RoE in empire are crap its a breeding ground for griefers. Properly fit your hulk don't just think about max yield. A damage control adds a lot of ehp. Being in a fleet to adds leadership bonuses and possible gang links. At the end of the day EVE Online was met to be a group activity not a solo effort. |

Dyniss
BloodLust Enterprises Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2012.04.11 05:25:00 -
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Tarn Kugisa wrote:I stopped mining in null due to not being able to tank any rats with my retreiver. Granted thats a Teir 2 Tech 1 barge, but I take it you need a drake or something to take the aggro from the rats so they can use their cloud of drones to gank the rats. Hulks should be able to tank fairly large ships, not being ganked by a destroyer, which is meant to do that to frigs.
My Merlin gets a better tank than a hulk.
EDIT: If the Hulk got 50-75 MW more PG and 50 TF more CPU it could tank pretty well. Maybe even some more slots but that is wishful thinking. Belt security is all you need a single cruiser usually faction or hac will work fine. I personally use a Gila myself. It tanks very well plus you have plenty of room for logistic drones. I carry a flight of heavy T2 shield bots myself. |

Dyniss
BloodLust Enterprises Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2012.04.11 05:27:00 -
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But then again I run dual accounts which IMHO is the most optimal way to play EVE. |

Dyniss
BloodLust Enterprises Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2012.04.11 06:25:00 -
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Ioci wrote:Dyniss wrote:Well I think hulks tanks are fine if properly fit. I can easily have a 20k unheated tank on my hulk plus I also keep security with the hulk too. I mine in 0.0 in alliance space and there is A LOT of tools at your disposal to stop people trying to pop your miners. Intel channels standing fleets and belt security. These measures alone will stop all but the large blobs (and at that point you just safe up since their usually spotted in intel) or the occasional logoffskie attempt. And like others have said the hulk is a industrial ship designed to mine ore not engage in combat. Even in real life militarys logistics and transport is closely guarded. Going out to mine alone (especially in empire) you're taking a risk and since RoE in empire are crap its a breeding ground for griefers. Properly fit your hulk don't just think about max yield. A damage control adds a lot of ehp. Being in a fleet to adds leadership bonuses and possible gang links. At the end of the day EVE Online was met to be a group activity not a solo effort. A Whole 20K Gee wow. That's like, uber and stuff. With a tank like that I'm sure null bears will be flooding thier belts with 20K EHP Hulks now. They should pay you for that fit. Nothing wrong with 20k ehp I was just using it as an example. Also I don't understand this null bear nonsense most miners in EVE are very much into pvp they just use mining to fund their pvp. I am sure you have some way to fund your gameplay style too |

Dyniss
BloodLust Enterprises Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2012.04.11 06:29:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:Tippia wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Tippia wrote:GǪso how many 1600mm plates do you usually fit your Iterons with? and when was the last time you spent over 200 mill on an iteron? i mean can you buy them from then please! Quite irrelevant. The point is, they're both the same kind of ship: a non-combat industrial-type ship meant for one thing and one thing only (and, just to repeat that: it's not combat). You can still squeeze 30k EHP out of a Hulk, and that's fairly respectable for what it is and what it's supposed to be doing. actually it is relevant because a hulk is a t2 ship with a smaller tank then a cruiser. it shouldn't have a BS tank, but it should be what enough for what is meant for, mining in dangerous space. LSE on a hulk would be respectable, or all t2 miners for that matter. there should be a larger jump from covetor to hulk. the PG to fit a LSE2 instead of small would be a good improvement I don't see any cruisers that can get 80+ to all resists with 2 modules neither. |

Dyniss
BloodLust Enterprises Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2012.04.11 06:35:00 -
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A hulk with a LSE would be a bit too much. A medium shield extender would be more balanced. You have to remember b Hulks can easily get over 80% to all resists. A LSE on a hulk would easily get it close to BS ehp. As it is now a properly fit hulk can get close to 40k ehp and that's pretty high |
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