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Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.11 04:41:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Tippia wrote:GǪso how many 1600mm plates do you usually fit your Iterons with? and when was the last time you spent over 200 mill on an iteron? i mean can you buy them from then please!
okay
can you fit a 1600mm plate on a viator/occator |
Lanasak
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Posted - 2012.04.11 04:43:00 -
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it's easy to get 30-40k ehp out of a hulk
you just have to realize that survivability comes at the expense of mining yield
that's something that most hisec miners can't wrap their heads around vOv |
Lanasak
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:30:00 -
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Ibn Taymiyyah wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Command ships can still be blapped by a small fleet of destroyers. Don't really care for the outcome of this discussion, but I'd like the see that small fleet of destroyers take down a command ship before concord arrives, as this is the point someone is making. 2/3 Destroyers taking down a 300mil ship in less time than concord needs to arrive.
I'd like to see a command ship mine 2500 m3/minute |
Lanasak
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:45:00 -
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wow look at this, a 42k ehp hulk
http://i.imgur.com/2kY32.jpg |
Lanasak
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:49:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:huh 400 000 million isk to get 40 k ehp which can be ganked by 4 tornadoes which cost half the price of the hulk... cool beans man...
okay
would the gankers go after your 40k ehp hulk or the paper tanked hulk with a civilian shield booster next to you? obviously the latter
would they even USE four tornadoes on you? nope |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:50:00 -
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also I have a solution for evading artillery ganks
orbit a can |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:51:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:doesnt anything under 50k still die to a dessie? Cause I saw something earlier Tippia put up about a 50k something else earlier and said it could still die to them
pack ECM drones |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:04:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Or is this devolving to the screw what the ship is made for lets just survive stage?
Yes, it's called "adapting." |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:08:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Lanasak wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:Or is this devolving to the screw what the ship is made for lets just survive stage? Yes, it's called "adapting." k, adapt to "maximum mining AND survival"
EVE is about making choices. You can't have it both ways - fit to survive, or fit for maximum yield. Not both. |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:12:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Lanasak wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:Lanasak wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:Or is this devolving to the screw what the ship is made for lets just survive stage? Yes, it's called "adapting." k, adapt to "maximum mining AND survival" EVE is about making choices. You can't have it both ways - fit to survive, or fit for maximum yield. Not both. again... or dont mine where there are people.
If you choose to mine somewhere out of the way with a max-yield fit Hulk, at the expense of having to fly a longer route to get your ore/minerals to market, that's another valid choice. |
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Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:16:00 -
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I don't mine, and if I did, I wouldn't mine in highsec like pond scum |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:18:00 -
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if somebody probed out your grav sites two days ago they wouldn't be there today |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:19:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:I They can't fit a tank worth a damn without decimating their productivity
it's almost as if you have to make choices!
please make the game easier for my simple mind, CCP |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:20:00 -
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Jas Dor wrote:Hum fully bonused Orca and fully bonused Tengu to pull that off. Once CCP gets rid of off grid boosting that will probably protect the Hulk, most gankers are much more likely to go for the Tengu first for the tears and SP loss.
nobody suicide ganks a Tengu unless it has worthwhile fittings fyi
and if that becomes an issue they'd just boost on grid with brick-tanked Vultures |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:22:00 -
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Jas Dor wrote:Lanasak wrote:I don't mine, and if I did, I wouldn't mine in highsec like pond scum Many players feel the same way you do. This is why low end mineral prices are increasing. no, minerals are going up across the board because of traders speculating on the imminent rogue drone nerf |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:23:00 -
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Jas Dor wrote:Lanasak wrote:Jas Dor wrote:Hum fully bonused Orca and fully bonused Tengu to pull that off. Once CCP gets rid of off grid boosting that will probably protect the Hulk, most gankers are much more likely to go for the Tengu first for the tears and SP loss. nobody suicide ganks a Tengu unless it has worthwhile fittings fyi and if that becomes an issue they'd just boost on grid with brick-tanked Vultures So to get all this to work you need at least three accounts to run one hulk? Somehow I do not think the bulk of the 20-40 billion units of trit that are sold in Jita every day is going to come from such a process.
If only EVE was a multiplayer game |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:36:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Lanasak wrote:
If only EVE was a multiplayer game
funny thing about that is thats HOW we mine in untanked Hulks and dont get killed lol multiplayer. People to haul for us, multiple hulks and multiple people. lol youd think youd be agreeing with us for actually playing it LIKE a multiplayer game rather than trolling and calling us names
look at you missing the point |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 16:51:00 -
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Oxylan wrote:i cant understand why ship worth actualy 330mil cant stand to curple t1 fited derstroyers or even cant survive one tornado, crazy...
The same way it's not a combat ship, and the same way no other ship can mine anywhere near the amount of ore that it is capable of. |
Lanasak
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Posted - 2012.04.12 16:52:00 -
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Nydia Carver wrote:Exhumers should be redesigned, more slots, power grid same line with tier 3 battleships. They should be able to fit 100 000 EHP tank.
While being adjusted to mine just like a tier 3 battleship (i.e. very poorly?)
Otherwise, no. |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 16:56:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Tippia wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:The only person who cares is you. Prove it. You just did, thanks for playing
look at you, such a tryhard |
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Lanasak
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:00:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Lanasak wrote:look at you, such a tryhard Post with your main
I'm training skills on this character fwiw |
Lanasak
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:08:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Lanasak wrote:The same way it's not a combat ship, and the same way no other ship can mine anywhere near the amount of ore that it is capable of. In EVE is every ship exposed to combat if you want to or not. To have ships that are particularly weak at it is what makes this a joke.
No, it does not - you are supposed to avoid combat with such ships at all costs. |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:23:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Lanasak wrote:No, it does not - you are supposed to avoid combat with such ships at all costs. Then which attribute of the mining ships supports your claim? Is it their tank, is it their speed, their manoeuvrability or their ability to dock at a station?
You're claiming that the Hulk needs to be a combat-capable ship simply because of its cost, or because it is "exposed" to an environment where combat can happen at any time. I'm saying that this is blatantly false. |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:29:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Lanasak wrote:You're claiming that the Hulk needs to be a combat-capable ship simply because of its cost, or because it is "exposed" to an environment where combat can happen at any time. I'm saying that this is blatantly false. Why?
Because it's a ship that can mine 3000 m3 of ore per minute. It's ridiculously powerful for mining - that power comes at the expense of any real combat capability. |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:30:00 -
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Marl Xun wrote:Revolution Rising wrote: Keep in mind, people have been mining in 0.0 for years without this. But it requires more to do it.
And in that time we've seen: Tech 3 battlecruisers T3 battlecruisers Destroyer buff Blaster/railgun buff So when do Hulks get some love to counter this?
Show me these mythical tech 3 battlecruisers |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:38:00 -
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https://twitter.com/#!/CCP_Diagoras/status/179947277178241025
When Hulks are the most popular shiptype in the game, I see little need for a buff. |
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