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Kinnison
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Posted - 2004.07.15 18:40:00 -
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This idea would be usable for all the classes of guns. Simply a very rapid fire, extremely short range gun, perhaps using special ammo for the class) for shooting down incoming missiles just before they hit. It wouldn't be very useful against torps, probably, but might be another useful option. Perhaps with yet another skill to go with it? Think Phalanx gun.
This idea seems quite a good one to me, as Amarr and Gallente ships tend to have poor missile defense.
Of course, it would use up ammo at a frightening rate - all the better for producers!!
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Kinnison
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Posted - 2004.07.15 18:40:00 -
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This idea would be usable for all the classes of guns. Simply a very rapid fire, extremely short range gun, perhaps using special ammo for the class) for shooting down incoming missiles just before they hit. It wouldn't be very useful against torps, probably, but might be another useful option. Perhaps with yet another skill to go with it? Think Phalanx gun.
This idea seems quite a good one to me, as Amarr and Gallente ships tend to have poor missile defense.
Of course, it would use up ammo at a frightening rate - all the better for producers!!
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Zaldiri
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Posted - 2004.07.15 18:55:00 -
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Maybe, but it shouldn't be more effective than defeder missles.
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Zaldiri
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Posted - 2004.07.15 18:55:00 -
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Maybe, but it shouldn't be more effective than defeder missles.
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Nick Parker
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Posted - 2004.07.16 04:39:00 -
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Leave it to a Gallente to wanna weaken the Caldari as much as possible. I'm all for it if there will be a Drone Killing gun, Uses ammo and hits Drones only. Hi Damage and Hi ROF so you can kill lots of Space Trash er I mean drones
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Nick Parker
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Posted - 2004.07.16 04:39:00 -
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Leave it to a Gallente to wanna weaken the Caldari as much as possible. I'm all for it if there will be a Drone Killing gun, Uses ammo and hits Drones only. Hi Damage and Hi ROF so you can kill lots of Space Trash er I mean drones
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Absolute Evil
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Posted - 2004.07.19 17:13:00 -
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OHHHH OHHHH
How about laser defense guns or mirrors, get real if missiles are to powerful for you then get a missile boat. I got one after they nerfed my tempest.
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Absolute Evil
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Posted - 2004.07.19 17:13:00 -
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OHHHH OHHHH
How about laser defense guns or mirrors, get real if missiles are to powerful for you then get a missile boat. I got one after they nerfed my tempest.
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Zaldiri
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Posted - 2004.07.19 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Nick Parker Leave it to a Gallente to wanna weaken the Caldari as much as possible. I'm all for it if there will be a Drone Killing gun, Uses ammo and hits Drones only. Hi Damage and Hi ROF so you can kill lots of Space Trash er I mean drones
Yep the Gallente would want to weaken the Caldiri and it wouldn't be hard for them to invent such a gun. I mean we have them in RL now. So they should be implemented. At least you can shoot down drones with guns. There isn't an explantation to why you cant shoot down missles with small guns even though it would be easy.
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Zaldiri
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Posted - 2004.07.19 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Nick Parker Leave it to a Gallente to wanna weaken the Caldari as much as possible. I'm all for it if there will be a Drone Killing gun, Uses ammo and hits Drones only. Hi Damage and Hi ROF so you can kill lots of Space Trash er I mean drones
Yep the Gallente would want to weaken the Caldiri and it wouldn't be hard for them to invent such a gun. I mean we have them in RL now. So they should be implemented. At least you can shoot down drones with guns. There isn't an explantation to why you cant shoot down missles with small guns even though it would be easy.
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Zaldiri
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Posted - 2004.07.19 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Absolute Evil OHHHH OHHHH
How about laser defense guns or mirrors, get real if missiles are to powerful for you then get a missile boat. I got one after they nerfed my tempest.
Completely irrelavent post. You can't defend agianst lasers at the present, but you can defend agianst missles. Its just the groop that have the most trouble with missiles anyway, the gallente, can't mount the only defenses. Where as the Caldiri the group with the least trouble with them, can mount plenty of defenses
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Zaldiri
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Posted - 2004.07.19 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Absolute Evil OHHHH OHHHH
How about laser defense guns or mirrors, get real if missiles are to powerful for you then get a missile boat. I got one after they nerfed my tempest.
Completely irrelavent post. You can't defend agianst lasers at the present, but you can defend agianst missles. Its just the groop that have the most trouble with missiles anyway, the gallente, can't mount the only defenses. Where as the Caldiri the group with the least trouble with them, can mount plenty of defenses
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NAGGAROK
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Posted - 2004.07.19 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: NAGGAROK on 19/07/2004 19:41:45
Originally by: Zaldiri
Where as the Caldiri the group with the least trouble with them, can mount plenty of defenses
Is that because they use alot of missile launchers and that's what missiles go in? Gee, if the Gallente want missile defense, mebbe they shuld use 1 of those extra Hi-Slots and stick a smartbomb in it(even tho smart bombs aren't exactly smart )
EDIT: I for got to mention, I think he meant a laser-based missile defense system; i.e. incoming missle gets shot by pulse blaster.
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NAGGAROK
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Posted - 2004.07.19 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: NAGGAROK on 19/07/2004 19:41:45
Originally by: Zaldiri
Where as the Caldiri the group with the least trouble with them, can mount plenty of defenses
Is that because they use alot of missile launchers and that's what missiles go in? Gee, if the Gallente want missile defense, mebbe they shuld use 1 of those extra Hi-Slots and stick a smartbomb in it(even tho smart bombs aren't exactly smart )
EDIT: I for got to mention, I think he meant a laser-based missile defense system; i.e. incoming missle gets shot by pulse blaster.
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valkir
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Posted - 2004.07.20 04:47:00 -
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Edited by: valkir on 20/07/2004 04:49:22
Originally by: Kinnison This idea would be usable for all the classes of guns. Simply a very rapid fire, extremely short range gun, perhaps using special ammo for the class) for shooting down incoming missiles just before they hit. It wouldn't be very useful against torps, probably, but might be another useful option. Perhaps with yet another skill to go with it? Think Phalanx gun.
This idea seems quite a good one to me, as Amarr and Gallente ships tend to have poor missile defense.
Of course, it would use up ammo at a frightening rate - all the better for producers!!
up a few notches they have a mod thread that is stickied it was made to be looked at good idea mebe you should post it there
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valkir
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Posted - 2004.07.20 04:47:00 -
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Edited by: valkir on 20/07/2004 04:49:22
Originally by: Kinnison This idea would be usable for all the classes of guns. Simply a very rapid fire, extremely short range gun, perhaps using special ammo for the class) for shooting down incoming missiles just before they hit. It wouldn't be very useful against torps, probably, but might be another useful option. Perhaps with yet another skill to go with it? Think Phalanx gun.
This idea seems quite a good one to me, as Amarr and Gallente ships tend to have poor missile defense.
Of course, it would use up ammo at a frightening rate - all the better for producers!!
up a few notches they have a mod thread that is stickied it was made to be looked at good idea mebe you should post it there
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.07.20 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Nick Parker Leave it to a Gallente to wanna weaken the Caldari as much as possible. I'm all for it if there will be a Drone Killing gun, Uses ammo and hits Drones only.
Not a gun as such, but the destroyers that are coming with shiva will have many small turrets loaded on. I belive these are meatn as drone/frig killers.
And if u read the CSM log from last week u will also see that they are working on an anti-missile cruiser aswell. This is not the support cruiser that is coming out in a few weeks (i hope ) but something completely different
So both anti-missile and anti-drone weapon platforms are on the drawing board
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.07.20 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Nick Parker Leave it to a Gallente to wanna weaken the Caldari as much as possible. I'm all for it if there will be a Drone Killing gun, Uses ammo and hits Drones only.
Not a gun as such, but the destroyers that are coming with shiva will have many small turrets loaded on. I belive these are meatn as drone/frig killers.
And if u read the CSM log from last week u will also see that they are working on an anti-missile cruiser aswell. This is not the support cruiser that is coming out in a few weeks (i hope ) but something completely different
So both anti-missile and anti-drone weapon platforms are on the drawing board
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2004.07.20 12:03:00 -
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I wouldn't mind see'n a small gun, 500m-3k op range depending on ammo, self targeting that shoots down both missiles and drones. But they'd need to give missiles hitpoints. Cruise missiles could have like 25, torpedos 50, and tech 2 torpedos could have like 25 shields and 50 armor. Be interesting.
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2004.07.20 12:03:00 -
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I wouldn't mind see'n a small gun, 500m-3k op range depending on ammo, self targeting that shoots down both missiles and drones. But they'd need to give missiles hitpoints. Cruise missiles could have like 25, torpedos 50, and tech 2 torpedos could have like 25 shields and 50 armor. Be interesting.
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2004.07.21 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki But they'd need to give missiles hitpoints. Cruise missiles could have like 25, torpedos 50, and tech 2 torpedos could have like 25 shields and 50 armor. Be interesting.
Missiles have hit points. Defenders do 76 damage, and the max hitpoints for the biggest self-guided ordnance is 75 HP.
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2004.07.21 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki But they'd need to give missiles hitpoints. Cruise missiles could have like 25, torpedos 50, and tech 2 torpedos could have like 25 shields and 50 armor. Be interesting.
Missiles have hit points. Defenders do 76 damage, and the max hitpoints for the biggest self-guided ordnance is 75 HP.
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Kinnison
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:32:00 -
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Another idea, a direct steal from an old SF RPG called Traveller:
Sandcaster. Basically a giant shotgun that fires a cloud of refracting crystal. Works against missiles, by damaging them or sending them off course or both, and lasers by diffusing the beam.
Nice defensive weapon for Minmatar as well, against Amarr lasers.
This one would be completely useless as an offensive weapon, unless the target is within a couple of hundred metres, in which case it's within smartbomb range anyway.
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Kinnison
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:32:00 -
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Another idea, a direct steal from an old SF RPG called Traveller:
Sandcaster. Basically a giant shotgun that fires a cloud of refracting crystal. Works against missiles, by damaging them or sending them off course or both, and lasers by diffusing the beam.
Nice defensive weapon for Minmatar as well, against Amarr lasers.
This one would be completely useless as an offensive weapon, unless the target is within a couple of hundred metres, in which case it's within smartbomb range anyway.
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Rogen DarHeel
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:15:00 -
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How bout special missile defense drones? No-missile Gallente ships would have a fighting chance against missile boat caldari ships for a change. 
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Rogen DarHeel
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:15:00 -
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How bout special missile defense drones? No-missile Gallente ships would have a fighting chance against missile boat caldari ships for a change. 
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Friday 007
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Posted - 2004.07.23 01:35:00 -
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Edited by: Friday 007 on 23/07/2004 01:44:25 Elite Cruisers
We are about to introduce more Elite frigates to the game now. The development of Elite Cruiser has already started. There will be four different classes:
-Point Defense Cruiser [ aka anti missile ] -Patrol Cruiser -Support Cruiser -Battlecruiser
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Friday 007
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Posted - 2004.07.23 01:35:00 -
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Edited by: Friday 007 on 23/07/2004 01:44:25 Elite Cruisers
We are about to introduce more Elite frigates to the game now. The development of Elite Cruiser has already started. There will be four different classes:
-Point Defense Cruiser [ aka anti missile ] -Patrol Cruiser -Support Cruiser -Battlecruiser
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Tsunetomo
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Posted - 2004.07.23 13:07:00 -
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lol - I just suggested the same thing in the new modules thread Rogan.
Actually though, since posting it I'm not sure it would work out fairly. I guess it depends how effective it is.
A Megathron has 7 guns all of which can target a Caldari Vessel, It can use all 7 guns in attack, where as the Caldari Battleships will be using their guns to either fight (with somewhat reduced firepower) or be shooting down drones with them - Seen as I don't think it would be possible to shoot down an anti missile drone with a missile :) |

Tsunetomo
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Posted - 2004.07.23 13:07:00 -
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lol - I just suggested the same thing in the new modules thread Rogan.
Actually though, since posting it I'm not sure it would work out fairly. I guess it depends how effective it is.
A Megathron has 7 guns all of which can target a Caldari Vessel, It can use all 7 guns in attack, where as the Caldari Battleships will be using their guns to either fight (with somewhat reduced firepower) or be shooting down drones with them - Seen as I don't think it would be possible to shoot down an anti missile drone with a missile :) |
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