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Weazy Trip
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:26:00 -
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I think I speak for a majority of the community when I say that the names of the people exploiting the pos mechanics should be revealed. The alliances who have been profiting off of this should receive DOCUMENTED punishment including dissolution.
Anyone who has received isk, ships, or equipment from the actions of the exploiters should have them destroyed and should be named as accomplices. Anonymity is not an option in a situation where the actions of a few have impacted such a large community. Ill gotten gains (from exploits, not scams) should not be allowed in Eve.
/signed
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar Rage of Inferno
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:27:00 -
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KrampfyV1
Warped Mining
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:34:00 -
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so anyone who has bought "tainted" tech 2 items in the last 4 years should be named and shamed?
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Sol'Kanar
Minmatar SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Gone'Postal

QFT
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Gone'Postal

This.
You want the names of a bunch of alts?
------ I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. |

Straight Chillen
Gallente Solar Wind
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Weazy Trip I think I speak for a majority of the community when I say that the names of the people exploiting the pos mechanics should be revealed. The alliances who have been profiting off of this should receive DOCUMENTED punishment including dissolution.
Anyone who has received isk, ships, or equipment from the actions of the exploiters should have them destroyed and should be named as accomplices. Anonymity is not an option in a situation where the actions of a few have impacted such a large community. Ill gotten gains (from exploits, not scams) should not be allowed in Eve.
/signed
Have you ever bought T2?? your name should be on that list too Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |

Weazy Trip
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:44:00 -
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Im not refering to the consumer, but to the people in direct transfers with any exploiter or members of an alliance that benefited from the bug (ie ev0ke).
Their accomplishments now mean absolutely nothing, and the ships they own should be destroyed simple enough.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:45:00 -
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I think some people purchase additional accounts just to have a ready supply of alts that are not "!" to forum spam with when scandal week inevitably comes around.
inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan |

Mika Meroko
Minmatar Crayon Posting Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:46:00 -
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pretty much...
and oh.. the names involved dont matter.. they are banned XD
Originally by: CCP Atropos I pod people because there's money to be made in selling tears.
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XxHey BabyxX
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:47:00 -
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bann the worthless Alliances
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Weazy Trip
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mika Meroko pretty much...
and oh.. the names involved dont matter.. they are banned XD
I disagree. If the list was named, people would investigate further as to their connections in alliances and corporations, and inevitably catch more fallout from the exploit.
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Xavier Zedicus
Coalition of Nations Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: KrampfyV1 so anyone who has bought "tainted" tech 2 items in the last 4 years should be named and shamed?
they where exploiting alchemy, a new feature in QR  |

Mika Meroko
Minmatar Crayon Posting Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Weazy Trip
Originally by: Mika Meroko pretty much...
and oh.. the names involved dont matter.. they are banned XD
I disagree. If the list was named, people would investigate further as to their connections in alliances and corporations, and inevitably catch more fallout from the exploit.
.... you know.... pretty much everyone who flies T2 in the last 4 years would have brought gear manufactured from this...
... unless you are asking for a server wipe XD
but yeah, I thought they banned the people doing it already?
Originally by: CCP Atropos I pod people because there's money to be made in selling tears.
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FOl2TY8
Scorpion's Sting
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:55:00 -
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Who cares tbh. This doesn't affect my gameplay in the slightest. ---------- The six paths and the four lives.... |

Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:55:00 -
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Personally I think the majority of these theads are Tarminic's army of troll alts. 
inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan |

Solomon XI
Hoist The Colors. Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:55:00 -
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I would love alliance names if they directly benefited from this with outposts & super-capitals. If this is the case - I want their 0.0 Sov wiped.
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Weazy Trip
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Solomon XI I would love alliance names if they directly benefited from this with outposts & super-capitals. If this is the case - I want their 0.0 Sov wiped.
This tbqh. And if it doesn't concern you stop posting in this thread please.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:04:00 -
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Player names are irrelevant since they all got banned. If you know someone in a nullsec industrial management outfit who suddenly isn't logging in...   
As for which alliances were doing it... I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say every major entity with moon mining ops probably benefited at some point, but it's possible that not all of them were aware of it. I mean if they had a mining array that was offlined for just a relatively short period isn't it at least conceivable that the managers wouldn't notice the free material?
So tbh I don't really care if they ever name names or not. At least they enacted what might have been the hardest mass punishment of non-RMTers in Eve's history, which [hopefully] will yield some interesting times ahead for both producers and consumers.
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inVictu5
Caldari Universal-Corp Nexus-Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Weazy Trip I think I speak for a majority of the community when I say that the names of the people exploiting the pos mechanics should be revealed. The alliances who have been profiting off of this should receive DOCUMENTED punishment including dissolution.
Anyone who has received isk, ships, or equipment from the actions of the exploiters should have them destroyed and should be named as accomplices. Anonymity is not an option in a situation where the actions of a few have impacted such a large community. Ill gotten gains (from exploits, not scams) should not be allowed in Eve.
/signed
This hasn't affected my gameplay at all. Ive had my T2 Ibis since I started last week. 
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:48:00 -
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all exe corp reporting for duty o7
anti climax , i think so 
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RedSplat
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:52:00 -
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It would be nice if the controllers of the alts accounts and proxys were traced and banned, but then again that wont happen. There was even talk of French toast
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Kiara Tirona
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:59:00 -
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Just the names of the corps and alliances will do.
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CharlieMurphy
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2008.12.11 23:14:00 -
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CCP says they banned 70 accounts but as the common player do i beleive this ? on CCPs past record for honesty i dont. proof or it didnt happen
Apart from that i think people just want to see a public execution, out in the open so we can all see that justice has been served.
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Cincannatus
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Posted - 2008.12.11 23:14:00 -
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Agreed. Oh and BUYING tainted equipment is seriously different to SELLING it. especially if one does not have knowledge of it.. name and shame them!
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Cyrus Brown
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Posted - 2008.12.11 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula
Originally by: Gone'Postal

This.
You want the names of a bunch of alts?
I want the IPs traced of those alts and the mains banned. I don't care what thier names are.
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Lillian D'Florite
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Posted - 2008.12.11 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Cyrus Brown
Originally by: Khemul Zula
Originally by: Gone'Postal

This.
You want the names of a bunch of alts?
I want the IPs traced of those alts and the mains banned. I don't care what thier names are.
I say... lets firebomb their houses while we are at it!!!!
*just kidding... but yeah, thats the mentality here...*
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.12.11 23:39:00 -
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Finding the corp names is straight forward. Identify which alliance lost a corporation in the past 24-48 hours and which corporations suddenly are inactive without explaination. After that locate their killboards and profit. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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Haakelen
Gallente Cassandra's Light Caeruleum Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.11 23:44:00 -
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Hell yeah! Lynching, the final resort of reasonable people!
Get real. This had little to no effect on you personally, stop feigning outrage.
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Recon Three
181st Legion
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Posted - 2008.12.11 23:45:00 -
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I demand 25,000,000,000 ISK for mental suffering for having to read this thread. ___
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Mr Hood
Amarr Domination. Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2008.12.11 23:54:00 -
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Hello, my name is Mr Hood
I bought a Tech II item and I feel shame. It was just so tempting when I'd gotten into some very hardcore Tech1 stuff but just really wasn't feeling the buzz from it anymore.
I also have feigned outrage. Is that a separate support group or can i talk about my feelings in here about that too?

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Mei Ree
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Posted - 2008.12.11 23:54:00 -
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The accounts were banned, assets were seized, now we just need to hear that the bug was actually fixed.
After the bug is fixed, the economy will sort itself out. Someone might have a huge stockpile of Ferrogel in various outposts through nullsec, but that will be used up eventually. If they were to try to influence the market with it, they'd burn through it faster.
The upshot of this is that sending Dysprosium moon POS into reinforced mode will now actually have an effect on the market like it was intended to.
So can we get back to playing the game?
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Pooka
Caldari United Space Aillance USA
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Posted - 2008.12.11 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kiara Tirona Just the names of the corps and alliances will do.
And which CCP employees were part of the corps / alliances!! Wonder which one T20 is a memmber of....
If any CCP personnel knew of this, then it is time for the CCP CEO to put a stop to them playing!! just my 2 cents 
PROMISES MADE PROMISES KEPT BRING THE BRIGHT STAR BACK!!! COUNTRY FIRST
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.12.11 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Mei Ree The accounts were banned, assets were seized, now we just need to hear that the bug was actually fixed.
After the bug is fixed, the economy will sort itself out. Someone might have a huge stockpile of Ferrogel in various outposts through nullsec, but that will be used up eventually. If they were to try to influence the market with it, they'd burn through it faster.
The upshot of this is that sending Dysprosium moon POS into reinforced mode will now actually have an effect on the market like it was intended to.
So can we get back to playing the game?
Srry, Scandal WeekÖ still has a few days left before people run out of new ways to poast the same drivel and every argument becomes circular.
inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2008.12.12 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Srry, Scandal WeekÖ still has a few days left before people run out of new ways to poast the same drivel and every argument becomes circular.
True.
We are at a phase where the CCP news article is copied to an external site and then reposted here, so we can discuss the "new" development.
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Chubby Cheeks
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Posted - 2008.12.12 00:09:00 -
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ive heard that this bug was going on for some time, at least 6 months. There must be alot of offenders and 70 is just the tip of the iceberg. I think the real thing people should be asking for is that ALL offenders be banned and not just some of them.
I would also bet that every major alliance has probably had some people exploiting this way and i think CCP should be very careful to not show bias, turning a blind eye to favoured alliance and targeting undesireable alliances instead
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Robinete Broadhead
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.12.12 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Chubby Cheeks ive heard that this bug was going on for some time, at least 6 months. There must be alot of offenders and 70 is just the tip of the iceberg. I think the real thing people should be asking for is that ALL offenders be banned and not just some of them.
I would also bet that every major alliance has probably had some people exploiting this way and i think CCP should be very careful to not show bias, turning a blind eye to favoured alliance and targeting undesireable alliances instead
And as everyone knows there are CCP employees playing and that they are in every majior allaince. Did they know about this?? will they get banned? where did it say 70 players got baned?
Yes, I am an ALT in a NOOB Corp.
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2008.12.12 00:20:00 -
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Most reliable and logical rumor puts the exploit at alchemy, which was introduced a little over a month ago.
Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.12 00:26:00 -
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Ok, ok! I admit!!!!1
I once bought a tech 2 itam, it was a cap recharger II 
I do Sigs, Banners and other Graphics for ISK. Click Here! |

Impact
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Posted - 2008.12.12 00:42:00 -
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I dont think the characters name should be given out. There right to privacy. If they wanna make and alt and come on and say they were banned then thats there choice. But CCP dosent have to report to you, or anyone else whos been banned or why.
The only reason you found out about this mass ban is because its CCP setting an example and hoping to scare people away from doing the exploit. And anyone not caught to stop it before they lose there account.
But people have a right to privacy. And its none of your buisness what happeneds to anyones account but your own.
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Weazy Trip
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Impact But people have a right to privacy.
You obviously dont live in America.
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Minmatar Citizen 290574
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: KrampfyV1 so anyone who has bought "tainted" tech 2 items in the last 4 years should be named and shamed?
from the sounds of how big this is.. if u use t2 u most likely have tainted material
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Davina Braben
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:29:00 -
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I spent my tainted ISK on hookers and gin.
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MMXMMX
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:32:00 -
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Edited by: MMXMMX on 12/12/2008 01:45:11
Just kidding mode :
"By 2008, the market has become completely EXPLOIT-driven, and that's where I came in," says Gu=mundsson during an Edinburgh International Festival session. "The whole economic structure has become so complex, the data so vast, that a specialist was needed."
Quote from this Linkage
Just kidding mode :
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Verx Interis
Amarr Modicus Dementis
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:39:00 -
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No need to release a list..
Seeing as all the major alliances are about to be in the classic GBC vs Someone war, we just have to see who's significantly worse than they were previously.
If BoB get owned hard, BoB were doing it. if NC seem to have forgotten how to own like they did in M-O, they were doing it.
Just have to watch. ---- Logins required for this post: 610759 Modicus Dementis is recruiting, join the channel Internet Cafe |

PROTOCOL
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:46:00 -
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Quote: And which CCP employees were part of the corps / alliances!! Wonder which one T20 is a memmber of
Does it matter? He left ccp to go work for realtime worlds. Go back to your moms basement and put your tinfoil hat back on.
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Spurty
Caldari Technologic Dance
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:55:00 -
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I'm completely stuffed from all the popcorn I've been eating reading this stuff.
fantastic work!
Would love to know what it is we are supposed to do with the info if CCP were to divulge the cheaters.
You going to create banners and posters and go walk down your local high street to protest then?
Just going to have to wait and see EVE settle down again and see if its still as crazy to have these big power blocks rampaging in their nap fests or if people will spot that there's really nothing in being a pet and hey, why not take it all for themselves ;0 0.0 lacks anarchy, higher percentage of blues out there than in EMPIRE! |

Bloody Rabbit
Jita Miners
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Posted - 2008.12.12 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Weazy Trip
Originally by: Solomon XI I would love alliance names if they directly benefited from this with outposts & super-capitals. If this is the case - I want their 0.0 Sov wiped.
This tbqh. And if it doesn't concern you stop posting in this thread please.
I aggree with this, if the cheaters were using the space of a 0.0 alliance that alliance needs to be punished for this. If an alliance collected rent from the cheaters then those alliances need to be punished.
CCP, the players are losing faith in you. I hope in the next week or so you do the right thing and reveal the names and corps and alliances and you punish them. Punishing the alliances also include wiping out player stations if you find that the trail of isk was used to build those stations.
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Bloody Rabbit
Jita Miners
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Posted - 2008.12.12 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Impact I dont think the characters name should be given out. There right to privacy. If they wanna make and alt and come on and say they were banned then thats there choice. But CCP dosent have to report to you, or anyone else whos been banned or why.
The only reason you found out about this mass ban is because its CCP setting an example and hoping to scare people away from doing the exploit. And anyone not caught to stop it before they lose there account.
But people have a right to privacy. And its none of your buisness what happeneds to anyones account but your own.
Players that have tried to ruin the game for us all do not have rights. As for what is and isn't our business, its our business how this game world is ran. If we don't like it we will speak up. If we still don't like it we express ourselves on 3rd party sites and quit the game. And we make sure that players thinking about joining the game know why we left, if you don't think that is power, then go look at the 3rd party sites about a game called Ultima Online aka UO.
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Faife
Noctiscion
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Posted - 2008.12.12 02:52:00 -
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i bought vagabonds after their price collapsed down.
i then used them badly and got blown up, shaming the name. but i could afford it since they were so cheap
please don't ban me all powerful alt OP --
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Dulcinea Toboso
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Posted - 2008.12.12 03:02:00 -
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Confirming I am the anonymous exploiter referenced in the OP.
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Ka Dargo
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.12.12 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Weazy Trip I think I speak for a majority of the community when I say that the names of the people exploiting the pos mechanics should be revealed. The alliances who have been profiting off of this should receive DOCUMENTED punishment including dissolution.
Anyone who has received isk, ships, or equipment from the actions of the exploiters should have them destroyed and should be named as accomplices. Anonymity is not an option in a situation where the actions of a few have impacted such a large community. Ill gotten gains (from exploits, not scams) should not be allowed in Eve.
/signed
I would like to thank Ms Trip on behalf of the "majority of the community". The unique and well thought out plan she has put forward, was far too good for the likes of that 45 page behemoth everyone else is posting in.
Stand tall, stand proud.
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CCP Applebabe

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Posted - 2008.12.12 04:19:00 -
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Locked.
Please continue the discussion in the official thread.
Thank you.
Applebabe Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang |
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