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Ardra	Posted - 2004.07.16 07:48:00 - [1] I am just about to get my first battle ship... I have most of materials for Mega and im only lacking iso for Dom, I dont like to use blasters and have just seen railThron post and was wondering... What battleship do i get first? Dom or Thron? THanks in advance
Ardra	Posted - 2004.07.16 07:48:00 - [2] I am just about to get my first battle ship... I have most of materials for Mega and im only lacking iso for Dom, I dont like to use blasters and have just seen railThron post and was wondering... What battleship do i get first? Dom or Thron? THanks in advance
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.07.16 08:33:00 - [3] Depends on what you intend to use it for and your skills. You already have drones 5 and drone interface 4 ? Go Dominix. You are going to be doing NPC hunting and lack high fitting or gunnery skills ? Go Megathron. You are going to mine in it ? Megathron if low drone skills, Dominix if high. Missions ? Either will do fine. PvP ? Difficult, since you're not into blasters I'd say Megathron since that one has a better fleet, long range setup possibility. But the Domi can do some EW.... _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.07.16 08:33:00 - [4] Depends on what you intend to use it for and your skills. You already have drones 5 and drone interface 4 ? Go Dominix. You are going to be doing NPC hunting and lack high fitting or gunnery skills ? Go Megathron. You are going to mine in it ? Megathron if low drone skills, Dominix if high. Missions ? Either will do fine. PvP ? Difficult, since you're not into blasters I'd say Megathron since that one has a better fleet, long range setup possibility. But the Domi can do some EW.... _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Ardra	Posted - 2004.07.16 09:49:00 - [5] Thaks rod, ill take it into consideration, no doubt it will prove invaulable :D Cheers for advice :D
Ardra	Posted - 2004.07.16 09:49:00 - [6] Thaks rod, ill take it into consideration, no doubt it will prove invaulable :D Cheers for advice :D
Gilbert Drillerson	Posted - 2004.07.16 11:29:00 - [7] What Rod is saying is correct, I would just add that since you are going with gallente Battleships you really need good drone skills anyway... So I would recommend getting a Dominix first: Its cheap to buy and insure, probably about 60 mill isk cheaper when you consider the insurance into the calculation. Train your drone skills if you havent already done it. * The dom can rival and apoc in mining when you use drones. * The dom is a nice fighter and it has one midslot more than the Megat which is nice in PVP... and 13-15 ogres are not to be ignored by opponents. * The dom has 750 CPU with electronics 5, much more than the megat The only real drawback of the dom is a limited powergrid that wont allow you to stick on 6*425's without some compromise in the low-slot loadouts.
Gilbert Drillerson	Posted - 2004.07.16 11:29:00 - [8] What Rod is saying is correct, I would just add that since you are going with gallente Battleships you really need good drone skills anyway... So I would recommend getting a Dominix first: Its cheap to buy and insure, probably about 60 mill isk cheaper when you consider the insurance into the calculation. Train your drone skills if you havent already done it. * The dom can rival and apoc in mining when you use drones. * The dom is a nice fighter and it has one midslot more than the Megat which is nice in PVP... and 13-15 ogres are not to be ignored by opponents. * The dom has 750 CPU with electronics 5, much more than the megat The only real drawback of the dom is a limited powergrid that wont allow you to stick on 6*425's without some compromise in the low-slot loadouts.
Jarjar	Posted - 2004.07.16 11:43:00 - [9] Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson ... and 13-15 ogres are not to be ignored by opponents. Well this argument is used way too often IMHO. Drones 5 + DI 4 + Gallente Bship 4 = 13 max drones, more is overkill. Difference from megathron -> 13-9 = 4 drones. 4 drones = ~34 dmg/sec Sure, 34 damage per second is really nice, but to be honest it doesn't make the dominix better at anything, when comparing it to the megathron. It's better with the bonus than without, but it doesn't make it beat the megathron in damage output.
Jarjar	Posted - 2004.07.16 11:43:00 - [10] Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson ... and 13-15 ogres are not to be ignored by opponents. Well this argument is used way too often IMHO. Drones 5 + DI 4 + Gallente Bship 4 = 13 max drones, more is overkill. Difference from megathron -> 13-9 = 4 drones. 4 drones = ~34 dmg/sec Sure, 34 damage per second is really nice, but to be honest it doesn't make the dominix better at anything, when comparing it to the megathron. It's better with the bonus than without, but it doesn't make it beat the megathron in damage output.
Chith	Posted - 2004.07.16 12:39:00 - [11] If it's your first battleship, fly a dom. It'll hurt less when you get that 99% insurance payout in a day or two. -mark --- The Tarsis Shriners
Chith	Posted - 2004.07.16 12:39:00 - [12] If it's your first battleship, fly a dom. It'll hurt less when you get that 99% insurance payout in a day or two. -mark --- The Tarsis Shriners
Judicator	Posted - 2004.07.16 12:44:00 - [13] Jarjar For NPC versus Serpentis the Dominix beat the Megathron hands down. True it has less PG and so on, but, it tanks better due to the slot layout. I can run a large and a medium 2 armor rep indefinatly on that and soak up quite a lot of damage. I could not do that with my Megathron. That extra mod slot makes a heap of difference in recharge ability. actually, I can run those reps an da LIf + guns and not break. That's pretty damn nice. Guns, well, use medium neutrons and named if you ahve. They hit really good verus both BS and cruisers and have a good RoF. I love my Dominix for NPC. I am not sure how it works against Guristas or Angels/Sanshas/Bloods. -------------------------
Judicator	Posted - 2004.07.16 12:44:00 - [14] Jarjar For NPC versus Serpentis the Dominix beat the Megathron hands down. True it has less PG and so on, but, it tanks better due to the slot layout. I can run a large and a medium 2 armor rep indefinatly on that and soak up quite a lot of damage. I could not do that with my Megathron. That extra mod slot makes a heap of difference in recharge ability. actually, I can run those reps an da LIf + guns and not break. That's pretty damn nice. Guns, well, use medium neutrons and named if you ahve. They hit really good verus both BS and cruisers and have a good RoF. I love my Dominix for NPC. I am not sure how it works against Guristas or Angels/Sanshas/Bloods. -------------------------
Jarjar	Posted - 2004.07.16 13:04:00 - [15] Well I did say damage output I'm sure the dominix is fine with NPCs too, but as long as I can kill 3 BS spawns now and then and almost always the 2x ones (easy with 2 cruisers as escort), I'm happy with my megathron.
Jarjar	Posted - 2004.07.16 13:04:00 - [16] Well I did say damage output I'm sure the dominix is fine with NPCs too, but as long as I can kill 3 BS spawns now and then and almost always the 2x ones (easy with 2 cruisers as escort), I'm happy with my megathron.
markol	Posted - 2004.07.16 16:52:00 - [17] Defiently with the domenix. As sone one has already pointed out, you will lose it in a few days. That is what happened with mine. Lost it on the 4th day I had it. Did not have neough money to cover insurance for a new one, so I had to sit there and mine crock for a week in a rax again. That sucked.
markol	Posted - 2004.07.16 16:52:00 - [18] Defiently with the domenix. As sone one has already pointed out, you will lose it in a few days. That is what happened with mine. Lost it on the 4th day I had it. Did not have neough money to cover insurance for a new one, so I had to sit there and mine crock for a week in a rax again. That sucked.
Judicator	Posted - 2004.07.16 16:56:00 - [19] Originally by: markol Defiently with the domenix. As sone one has already pointed out, you will lose it in a few days. That is what happened with mine. Lost it on the 4th day I had it. Did not have neough money to cover insurance for a new one, so I had to sit there and mine crock for a week in a rax again. That sucked. lol If she plays it smart she won't loose it in a few days. Reason a lot of ppl loose their BS in mere days is their ³ber noobishness. Sorry to say, but it's true. They are on BS before they can even pilot a Cruiser properly. That's a bit like me deciding that if I can fly a Cesna I can fly a F-16, it just don't work like that. -------------------------
Judicator	Posted - 2004.07.16 16:56:00 - [20] Originally by: markol Defiently with the domenix. As sone one has already pointed out, you will lose it in a few days. That is what happened with mine. Lost it on the 4th day I had it. Did not have neough money to cover insurance for a new one, so I had to sit there and mine crock for a week in a rax again. That sucked. lol If she plays it smart she won't loose it in a few days. Reason a lot of ppl loose their BS in mere days is their ³ber noobishness. Sorry to say, but it's true. They are on BS before they can even pilot a Cruiser properly. That's a bit like me deciding that if I can fly a Cesna I can fly a F-16, it just don't work like that. -------------------------
Hamatitio	Posted - 2004.07.16 18:34:00 - [21] I can fly a Raptor in game, Whats the difference between a Raptor IRL? /me hops in a raptor dies before getting off the runway I don't like your logic. waves to jud -- Director of Ganking: Death Row Inc.
Hamatitio	Posted - 2004.07.16 18:34:00 - [22] I can fly a Raptor in game, Whats the difference between a Raptor IRL? /me hops in a raptor dies before getting off the runway I don't like your logic. waves to jud -- Director of Ganking: Death Row Inc.
Judicator	Posted - 2004.07.16 18:43:00 - [23] Originally by: Hamatitio I can fly a Raptor in game, Whats the difference between a Raptor IRL? /me hops in a raptor dies before getting off the runway I don't like your logic. waves to jud It's not logic. -------------------------
Judicator	Posted - 2004.07.16 18:43:00 - [24] Originally by: Hamatitio I can fly a Raptor in game, Whats the difference between a Raptor IRL? /me hops in a raptor dies before getting off the runway I don't like your logic. waves to jud It's not logic. -------------------------
Procion	Posted - 2004.07.16 20:02:00 - [25] get the megathron or you will regret it.
Procion	Posted - 2004.07.16 20:02:00 - [26] get the megathron or you will regret it.
ponieus	Posted - 2004.07.16 20:12:00 - [27] get the dom.. I have a dom and a mega and I like my dom alot more.. Dont get me wrong the mega is a great ship.. but if you dont have the perfect skills to fly it you will just be flushing your 130mill down the drain. My mega is parked until i get my skills where they need to be....
ponieus	Posted - 2004.07.16 20:12:00 - [28] get the dom.. I have a dom and a mega and I like my dom alot more.. Dont get me wrong the mega is a great ship.. but if you dont have the perfect skills to fly it you will just be flushing your 130mill down the drain. My mega is parked until i get my skills where they need to be....
Ardra	Posted - 2004.07.16 21:59:00 - [29] thanks guys u realy helped :) might try to get a dom (just got 7 orges in my rax and loving it :P) thanks all
Ardra	Posted - 2004.07.16 21:59:00 - [30] thanks guys u realy helped :) might try to get a dom (just got 7 orges in my rax and loving it :P) thanks all
DarkStar251	Posted - 2004.07.17 04:30:00 - [31] The dom makes an uber tanked miner: 6 miner2s 5 cap recharger 2 2 large accomodation reps 2 armour hardeners, type appropriate to local NPCs, 3 cap relays. I can tank and eventually kill BS spawns with drones like this, and with harvies the mining amount is insane....
DarkStar251	Posted - 2004.07.17 04:30:00 - [32] The dom makes an uber tanked miner: 6 miner2s 5 cap recharger 2 2 large accomodation reps 2 armour hardeners, type appropriate to local NPCs, 3 cap relays. I can tank and eventually kill BS spawns with drones like this, and with harvies the mining amount is insane....
GenocidalSpliff	Posted - 2004.07.17 08:22:00 - [33] If you want to kill things get a megathron. If you want to mine veldspar with 13 harvesters and 6 miner II's, get a dominix. The dominix is ok, but its pathetic when it comes to doing damage and tanking at the same time. CCP seem to think that the extra 30 or so damage a sec the dominix gets from its drones means that it should only be able to fit a couple large weps, and some medium repairers. While most other bs's can carry and use almost the same ammount of drones, with a full tank setup and decent rack of large weapons. 2004.08.22 21:03:00 combat Your Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I perfectly strikes callonious [BSC], wrecking for 236.9 damage.
GenocidalSpliff	Posted - 2004.07.17 08:22:00 - [34] If you want to kill things get a megathron. If you want to mine veldspar with 13 harvesters and 6 miner II's, get a dominix. The dominix is ok, but its pathetic when it comes to doing damage and tanking at the same time. CCP seem to think that the extra 30 or so damage a sec the dominix gets from its drones means that it should only be able to fit a couple large weps, and some medium repairers. While most other bs's can carry and use almost the same ammount of drones, with a full tank setup and decent rack of large weapons. 2004.08.22 21:03:00 combat Your Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I perfectly strikes callonious [BSC], wrecking for 236.9 damage.
Judicator	Posted - 2004.07.17 10:13:00 - [35] Originally by: GenocidalSpliff If you want to kill things get a megathron. If you want to mine veldspar with 13 harvesters and 6 miner II's, get a dominix. The dominix is ok, but its pathetic when it comes to doing damage and tanking at the same time. CCP seem to think that the extra 30 or so damage a sec the dominix gets from its drones means that it should only be able to fit a couple large weps, and some medium repairers. While most other bs's can carry and use almost the same ammount of drones, with a full tank setup and decent rack of large weapons. Please get a clue. -------------------------
Judicator	Posted - 2004.07.17 10:13:00 - [36] Originally by: GenocidalSpliff If you want to kill things get a megathron. If you want to mine veldspar with 13 harvesters and 6 miner II's, get a dominix. The dominix is ok, but its pathetic when it comes to doing damage and tanking at the same time. CCP seem to think that the extra 30 or so damage a sec the dominix gets from its drones means that it should only be able to fit a couple large weps, and some medium repairers. While most other bs's can carry and use almost the same ammount of drones, with a full tank setup and decent rack of large weapons. Please get a clue. -------------------------
MalaMo	Posted - 2004.07.17 13:46:00 - [37] Originally by: DarkStar251 The dom makes an uber tanked miner: 6 miner2s 5 cap recharger 2 2 large accomodation reps 2 armour hardeners, type appropriate to local NPCs, 3 cap relays. I can tank and eventually kill BS spawns with drones like this, and with harvies the mining amount is insane.... Mmmmm I like it... So fat boy can take alot with that setup will try it most definetly .. only when I get to 0.0 :-) ------------- Tanya Raskov > e stvarno minmatar zidaju brodove tako sto odlome deo fabrike i nakace motore
MalaMo	Posted - 2004.07.17 13:46:00 - [38] Originally by: DarkStar251 The dom makes an uber tanked miner: 6 miner2s 5 cap recharger 2 2 large accomodation reps 2 armour hardeners, type appropriate to local NPCs, 3 cap relays. I can tank and eventually kill BS spawns with drones like this, and with harvies the mining amount is insane.... Mmmmm I like it... So fat boy can take alot with that setup will try it most definetly .. only when I get to 0.0 :-) ------------- Tanya Raskov > e stvarno minmatar zidaju brodove tako sto odlome deo fabrike i nakace motore
S'Jet	Posted - 2004.07.17 17:33:00 - [39] Ardra! Both ships have their disadvantages and advantages, so i will say, read on both info and decide on the one that will suite you best. I had the same problem when i was getting my first BS, both in the end i went for the Mega, because to buy the Dom, then later buy the Mega was too, much for me. so view the data on both. that way you can get a good picture. I hope this help *"Here's everything I know about war: Somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the same again."*
S'Jet	Posted - 2004.07.17 17:33:00 - [40] Ardra! Both ships have their disadvantages and advantages, so i will say, read on both info and decide on the one that will suite you best. I had the same problem when i was getting my first BS, both in the end i went for the Mega, because to buy the Dom, then later buy the Mega was too, much for me. so view the data on both. that way you can get a good picture. I hope this help *"Here's everything I know about war: Somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the same again."*
Lentia	Posted - 2004.07.17 19:11:00 - [41] Edited by: Lentia on 17/07/2004 19:16:28 Originally by: DarkStar251 The dom makes an uber tanked miner: 6 miner2s 5 cap recharger 2 2 large accomodation reps 2 armour hardeners, type appropriate to local NPCs, 3 cap relays. I can tank and eventually kill BS spawns with drones like this, and with harvies the mining amount is insane.... I deep space mine with my Dom (my Mega has been in storage for quite some time now) and that loadout would not work for me at all because you get warpscarmbled and wtfpwned by 3 BS NPC. Plus theres no roid scanner and the locals would kill u if they found you were popping rocks. HI: 6 miners 2's MID: 1 med shield booster, 2 shield hardners, 1 MWD, 1 roid scanner LOW: 2 warp core stabs, 2 cap relays, 2 named cargo expanders DRONE: 13 Harvies I use the the 2 named expanders so I can wait a full cycle b4 jettisoning. With this setup I mine 56 bist/min which is like 896 m3, and my cargo is 904 m3. The hardners tank me fair enough till my mwd and stabs allow me to warp off. Have never lost a Dom (or a harvie) mining in deep space. YOu have to park your dom within 1 km from roid so you can scoop them instantly during spawn. I cant really imagine 13 heavy drones taking out a 3 x 1M bounty NPC Battleships with thier cruisers and frigates or if it did doing it in reasonable time, but that is very intersting. Lentia Military Officer http://www.staf.online-guild.com/
Lentia	Posted - 2004.07.17 19:11:00 - [42] Edited by: Lentia on 17/07/2004 19:16:28 Originally by: DarkStar251 The dom makes an uber tanked miner: 6 miner2s 5 cap recharger 2 2 large accomodation reps 2 armour hardeners, type appropriate to local NPCs, 3 cap relays. I can tank and eventually kill BS spawns with drones like this, and with harvies the mining amount is insane.... I deep space mine with my Dom (my Mega has been in storage for quite some time now) and that loadout would not work for me at all because you get warpscarmbled and wtfpwned by 3 BS NPC. Plus theres no roid scanner and the locals would kill u if they found you were popping rocks. HI: 6 miners 2's MID: 1 med shield booster, 2 shield hardners, 1 MWD, 1 roid scanner LOW: 2 warp core stabs, 2 cap relays, 2 named cargo expanders DRONE: 13 Harvies I use the the 2 named expanders so I can wait a full cycle b4 jettisoning. With this setup I mine 56 bist/min which is like 896 m3, and my cargo is 904 m3. The hardners tank me fair enough till my mwd and stabs allow me to warp off. Have never lost a Dom (or a harvie) mining in deep space. YOu have to park your dom within 1 km from roid so you can scoop them instantly during spawn. I cant really imagine 13 heavy drones taking out a 3 x 1M bounty NPC Battleships with thier cruisers and frigates or if it did doing it in reasonable time, but that is very intersting. Lentia Military Officer http://www.staf.online-guild.com/
Jarjar	Posted - 2004.07.17 19:38:00 - [43] Originally by: Judicator Originally by: GenocidalSpliff If you want to kill things get a megathron. If you want to mine veldspar with 13 harvesters and 6 miner II's, get a dominix. The dominix is ok, but its pathetic when it comes to doing damage and tanking at the same time. CCP seem to think that the extra 30 or so damage a sec the dominix gets from its drones means that it should only be able to fit a couple large weps, and some medium repairers. While most other bs's can carry and use almost the same ammount of drones, with a full tank setup and decent rack of large weapons. Please get a clue. He's got a point though, you can't deny it... It can't fit 6 large guns + large armor repairer + MWD + other goodies. 6 electrons (lowest powergrid of all L hybrids): 9000MW 1 large armor repairer: 2000MW 1 MWD: 1250MW Total so far: 12250MW Dom powergrid with Eng 5: 11250MW Stuff missing: Heavy cap booster 1750MW, so you're gonna have to use cap rechargers (at most 3 cap relays + 2 cap rechargers).
Jarjar	Posted - 2004.07.17 19:38:00 - [44] Originally by: Judicator Originally by: GenocidalSpliff If you want to kill things get a megathron. If you want to mine veldspar with 13 harvesters and 6 miner II's, get a dominix. The dominix is ok, but its pathetic when it comes to doing damage and tanking at the same time. CCP seem to think that the extra 30 or so damage a sec the dominix gets from its drones means that it should only be able to fit a couple large weps, and some medium repairers. While most other bs's can carry and use almost the same ammount of drones, with a full tank setup and decent rack of large weapons. Please get a clue. He's got a point though, you can't deny it... It can't fit 6 large guns + large armor repairer + MWD + other goodies. 6 electrons (lowest powergrid of all L hybrids): 9000MW 1 large armor repairer: 2000MW 1 MWD: 1250MW Total so far: 12250MW Dom powergrid with Eng 5: 11250MW Stuff missing: Heavy cap booster 1750MW, so you're gonna have to use cap rechargers (at most 3 cap relays + 2 cap rechargers).
Judicator	Posted - 2004.07.17 19:46:00 - [45] Originally by: Jarjar Originally by: Judicator Originally by: GenocidalSpliff If you want to kill things get a megathron. If you want to mine veldspar with 13 harvesters and 6 miner II's, get a dominix. The dominix is ok, but its pathetic when it comes to doing damage and tanking at the same time. CCP seem to think that the extra 30 or so damage a sec the dominix gets from its drones means that it should only be able to fit a couple large weps, and some medium repairers. While most other bs's can carry and use almost the same ammount of drones, with a full tank setup and decent rack of large weapons. Please get a clue. He's got a point though, you can't deny it... It can't fit 6 large guns + large armor repairer + MWD + other goodies. 6 electrons (lowest powergrid of all L hybrids): 9000MW 1 large armor repairer: 2000MW 1 MWD: 1250MW Total so far: 12250MW Dom powergrid with Eng 5: 11250MW Stuff missing: Heavy cap booster 1750MW, so you're gonna have to use cap rechargers (at most 3 cap relays + 2 cap rechargers). The one change I'd like is for Electrons to use 1250 MW I'll give you that. -------------------------
Judicator	Posted - 2004.07.17 19:46:00 - [46] Originally by: Jarjar Originally by: Judicator Originally by: GenocidalSpliff If you want to kill things get a megathron. If you want to mine veldspar with 13 harvesters and 6 miner II's, get a dominix. The dominix is ok, but its pathetic when it comes to doing damage and tanking at the same time. CCP seem to think that the extra 30 or so damage a sec the dominix gets from its drones means that it should only be able to fit a couple large weps, and some medium repairers. While most other bs's can carry and use almost the same ammount of drones, with a full tank setup and decent rack of large weapons. Please get a clue. He's got a point though, you can't deny it... It can't fit 6 large guns + large armor repairer + MWD + other goodies. 6 electrons (lowest powergrid of all L hybrids): 9000MW 1 large armor repairer: 2000MW 1 MWD: 1250MW Total so far: 12250MW Dom powergrid with Eng 5: 11250MW Stuff missing: Heavy cap booster 1750MW, so you're gonna have to use cap rechargers (at most 3 cap relays + 2 cap rechargers). The one change I'd like is for Electrons to use 1250 MW I'll give you that. -------------------------
GenocidalSpliff	Posted - 2004.07.17 23:16:00 - [47] Originally by: Judicator Originally by: GenocidalSpliff If you want to kill things get a megathron. If you want to mine veldspar with 13 harvesters and 6 miner II's, get a dominix. The dominix is ok, but its pathetic when it comes to doing damage and tanking at the same time. CCP seem to think that the extra 30 or so damage a sec the dominix gets from its drones means that it should only be able to fit a couple large weps, and some medium repairers. While most other bs's can carry and use almost the same ammount of drones, with a full tank setup and decent rack of large weapons. Please get a clue. I have a clue thanks and the dominix is rather poo at killing stuff, ok? :) 2004.08.22 21:03:00 combat Your Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I perfectly strikes callonious [BSC], wrecking for 236.9 damage.
GenocidalSpliff	Posted - 2004.07.17 23:16:00 - [48] Originally by: Judicator Originally by: GenocidalSpliff If you want to kill things get a megathron. If you want to mine veldspar with 13 harvesters and 6 miner II's, get a dominix. The dominix is ok, but its pathetic when it comes to doing damage and tanking at the same time. CCP seem to think that the extra 30 or so damage a sec the dominix gets from its drones means that it should only be able to fit a couple large weps, and some medium repairers. While most other bs's can carry and use almost the same ammount of drones, with a full tank setup and decent rack of large weapons. Please get a clue. I have a clue thanks and the dominix is rather poo at killing stuff, ok? :) 2004.08.22 21:03:00 combat Your Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I perfectly strikes callonious [BSC], wrecking for 236.9 damage.
Judicator	Posted - 2004.07.18 09:02:00 - [49] Originally by: GenocidalSpliff Originally by: Judicator Originally by: GenocidalSpliff If you want to kill things get a megathron. If you want to mine veldspar with 13 harvesters and 6 miner II's, get a dominix. The dominix is ok, but its pathetic when it comes to doing damage and tanking at the same time. CCP seem to think that the extra 30 or so damage a sec the dominix gets from its drones means that it should only be able to fit a couple large weps, and some medium repairers. While most other bs's can carry and use almost the same ammount of drones, with a full tank setup and decent rack of large weapons. Please get a clue. I have a clue thanks and the dominix is rather poo at killing stuff, ok? :) I have no problems killing stuff in it. AS said, Electrons at 1250MW would be good for the Domi tough. The extra drones are nice but not that big of a deal when facing another ship with maybe 8/9 drones and a full rack of BS guns. -------------------------
Judicator	Posted - 2004.07.18 09:02:00 - [50] Originally by: GenocidalSpliff Originally by: Judicator Originally by: GenocidalSpliff If you want to kill things get a megathron. If you want to mine veldspar with 13 harvesters and 6 miner II's, get a dominix. The dominix is ok, but its pathetic when it comes to doing damage and tanking at the same time. CCP seem to think that the extra 30 or so damage a sec the dominix gets from its drones means that it should only be able to fit a couple large weps, and some medium repairers. While most other bs's can carry and use almost the same ammount of drones, with a full tank setup and decent rack of large weapons. Please get a clue. I have a clue thanks and the dominix is rather poo at killing stuff, ok? :) I have no problems killing stuff in it. AS said, Electrons at 1250MW would be good for the Domi tough. The extra drones are nice but not that big of a deal when facing another ship with maybe 8/9 drones and a full rack of BS guns. -------------------------
GenocidalSpliff	Posted - 2004.07.18 14:41:00 - [51] Originally by: Judicator Originally by: GenocidalSpliff Originally by: Judicator Originally by: GenocidalSpliff If you want to kill things get a megathron. If you want to mine veldspar with 13 harvesters and 6 miner II's, get a dominix. The dominix is ok, but its pathetic when it comes to doing damage and tanking at the same time. CCP seem to think that the extra 30 or so damage a sec the dominix gets from its drones means that it should only be able to fit a couple large weps, and some medium repairers. While most other bs's can carry and use almost the same ammount of drones, with a full tank setup and decent rack of large weapons. Please get a clue. I have a clue thanks and the dominix is rather poo at killing stuff, ok? :) I have no problems killing stuff in it. AS said, Electrons at 1250MW would be good for the Domi tough. The extra drones are nice but not that big of a deal when facing another ship with maybe 8/9 drones and a full rack of BS guns. Yes that would be pritty good, but then the dominix would still have very little options, and for the sake of 4 extra drones it makes naff all difference. I dont know why they wont just stop pretending the drones make up for anything at all and give the ship some damn grid ;\ And to be honest, i think the recent change of none class specific modules to 1mw power was aimed more at the dominix than poor little frigates. Atleast its a step in the right direction. 2004.08.22 21:03:00 combat Your Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I perfectly strikes callonious [BSC], wrecking for 236.9 damage.
GenocidalSpliff	Posted - 2004.07.18 14:41:00 - [52] Originally by: Judicator Originally by: GenocidalSpliff Originally by: Judicator Originally by: GenocidalSpliff If you want to kill things get a megathron. If you want to mine veldspar with 13 harvesters and 6 miner II's, get a dominix. The dominix is ok, but its pathetic when it comes to doing damage and tanking at the same time. CCP seem to think that the extra 30 or so damage a sec the dominix gets from its drones means that it should only be able to fit a couple large weps, and some medium repairers. While most other bs's can carry and use almost the same ammount of drones, with a full tank setup and decent rack of large weapons. Please get a clue. I have a clue thanks and the dominix is rather poo at killing stuff, ok? :) I have no problems killing stuff in it. AS said, Electrons at 1250MW would be good for the Domi tough. The extra drones are nice but not that big of a deal when facing another ship with maybe 8/9 drones and a full rack of BS guns. Yes that would be pritty good, but then the dominix would still have very little options, and for the sake of 4 extra drones it makes naff all difference. I dont know why they wont just stop pretending the drones make up for anything at all and give the ship some damn grid ;\ And to be honest, i think the recent change of none class specific modules to 1mw power was aimed more at the dominix than poor little frigates. Atleast its a step in the right direction. 2004.08.22 21:03:00 combat Your Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I perfectly strikes callonious [BSC], wrecking for 236.9 damage.
Kathira	Posted - 2004.07.19 06:08:00 - [53] When you buy a Dom you have to learn two things. 1. Fitting 2. Crossthinking (for fitting) When you do not learn these things .. you'll hate your Dom. When you learn it ... you'll love her.
Kathira	Posted - 2004.07.19 06:08:00 - [54] When you buy a Dom you have to learn two things. 1. Fitting 2. Crossthinking (for fitting) When you do not learn these things .. you'll hate your Dom. When you learn it ... you'll love her.
Ardra	Posted - 2004.07.19 07:26:00 - [55] Ive read all posts and decided, I think ill go mega, As said before i dont like blasters (and if dom has trouble fitting more then ions am gonn ahte it anyway ) Thanks for all advice, its helped alot :)
Ardra	Posted - 2004.07.19 07:26:00 - [56] Ive read all posts and decided, I think ill go mega, As said before i dont like blasters (and if dom has trouble fitting more then ions am gonn ahte it anyway ) Thanks for all advice, its helped alot :)

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