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Jalif Scorpion's Sting Blades of Serenity	Posted - 2008.12.12 21:29:00 - [1] A question to the eve community. Are interceptors still usefull? I always encounter the problem of the following: - Neuts (because of those you can't do your job effectively) - Warriors (a pain in the ass to tank) - Warp speeds at shorter range (less then about 30AU) *Only when you are at full warp you reach that amazing warpspeeds I don't have that much experiance in interceptors yet. But it is definatly a shipclass I love to fly & like to specialize more into. Would people kindly to give me some more input about this & what their experiance is with interceptors? (flying one and fighting against one) PS: I know the taranis rocks, but that is not what I am asking for. Is an interceptor still a tool for keeping the enemy on its place?
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.12.12 21:34:00 - [2] Yes they're still useful. You get a damage Ceptor and tackler Ceptor for each race, and they still reach speeds with regular modules that are pretty close to what they got pre-speed patch. I think my Malediction goes about 200 m/s less now or something. The really wacky speeds got taken out of the equation by a change to rigs and plants though, but if you were flying unrigged, unplanted Ceptors before you probably won't feel much of a change unless you liked engaging from inside of scrammer range (which now kills your MWD of course.) The tackler Ceptors get a range bonus to webifiers and scrams/disruptors, so they can still hold someone with a web from outside of MWD-killing range.
Jalif Scorpion's Sting Blades of Serenity	Posted - 2008.12.12 21:43:00 - [3] Edited by: Jalif on 12/12/2008 21:43:44 Originally by: Dirk Magnum The tackler Ceptors get a range bonus to webifiers and scrams/disruptors, so they can still hold someone with a web from outside of MWD-killing range. Are we playing the same game 0.0? They have only bonus to their scram/disruptor range
Peckles	Posted - 2008.12.12 21:49:00 - [4] Warrior II's **** interceptors. Good luck tanking them for more than about 30 seconds. Shoot for 5 km/s. That takes care of the damage from alot of missiles as well as the tracking for ranged guns. Dont invest too much into them. Because of the patch, expect to lost more of them than you lost before. Interceptors 4 is a must.
Jalif Scorpion's Sting Blades of Serenity	Posted - 2008.12.12 21:53:00 - [5] Originally by: Peckles Warrior II's **** interceptors. Good luck tanking them for more than about 30 seconds. Shoot for 5 km/s. That takes care of the damage from alot of missiles as well as the tracking for ranged guns. Dont invest too much into them. Because of the patch, expect to lost more of them than you lost before. Interceptors 4 is a must. I'm training towards lvl 5 soon. The skills arent a problem. But are they able to do their job? If not... whats the whole point of that shipclass then?
Bronson Hughes ADVANCED Combat and Engineering	Posted - 2008.12.12 22:01:00 - [6] They still do their job just fine as long as you adjust your expectations somewhat: 1. They are no longer the nigh invulnerable perma-tacklers that they were before. They can still get in and get the initial point on someone long enough for something bigger to take over, but now they end up disengaging more often after someone else has taken over. 2. Light Drones are a real issue now. Fit your tackling 'ceptors with weapons appropriate to kill off drones and you'll get some degree of breathing room, but you still have ot be very mindful. tl;dr version: 'ceptors still work just fine, just fit them cheap (~50mil rigged, ~25mil unrigged) and fly them accordingly. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2008.12.12 22:34:00 - [7] Originally by: Jalif A question to the eve community. Are interceptors still usefull? Yes. The difference to a well fit t1 frigate isnt that insane anymore though. Originally by: Jalif - Neuts (because of those you can't do your job effectively) Use the tackler interceptors, those get a bonus on disruptor range and you can stay outside heavy neut range. Originally by: Jalif - Warriors (a pain in the ass to tank) If you got halfdecent dps on your inty try to kill them when they chase you, if that doesnt reduce damage enough your backup is too slow. Originally by: Jalif - Warp speeds at shorter range (less then about 30AU) *Only when you are at full warp you reach that amazing warpspeeds Yea, its a pita. I feel it got somewhat better since the patch, still they should accelerate/decelerate faster. But anyway, your major advantage is the quick align time coupled with good warp speed, you should catch cruisers/BSs easily even if they warp before you do with some practice in judging where they went (knowing the system helps, what gates are popular?).
Arous Drephius Perkone	Posted - 2008.12.12 22:50:00 - [8] Anyone that thinks interceptors suck now is clearly doing it wrong. They're still as awesome (for what I want them for anyways).
Writ Insand	Posted - 2008.12.12 22:55:00 - [9] They're still useful, but their practical lifetime on the battlefield was reduced from about 4-10 minutes (most fits are not cap stable) to perhaps 30 seconds. Quote: Is an interceptor still a tool for keeping the enemy on its place? No, you can't really use them to maintain a point on most ships anymore. It used to be that interceptor-killing was the domain of only particular ship types (vagabond, sniping cruisers, any EAF/recon) but now almost any ship can pop an interceptor easily within perhaps 30 seconds or so. The biggest change is that interceptor V is no longer especially worthwhile because the ability to tackle outside of heavy neut range doesn't enhance your survivability. Neuts or no neuts, you're going to die quickly.
RedSplat Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.12.12 23:06:00 - [10] well i just bought 10* Taranis so i hope they are still usefull That said, MWD Jag gets acceptable speed, good tank and better dps than most interceptors. I think the question as to whether Interceptors are worth flying is best rephrased as which interceptors are worth flying. There was even talk of French toast But there was none to be had

Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.12.12 23:17:00 - [11] Originally by: Jalif Edited by: Jalif on 12/12/2008 21:43:44 Originally by: Dirk Magnum The tackler Ceptors get a range bonus to webifiers and scrams/disruptors, so they can still hold someone with a web from outside of MWD-killing range. Are we playing the same game 0.0? They have only bonus to their scram/disruptor range I'm gonna call my post a typo even though I meant it when I typed it
Stuart Price Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.12.13 01:34:00 - [12] The Taranis is a marvelous thing, punches way above its weight and positively murders other 'ceptors. Been having a lot of fun and a lot of success in mine. Putting the 'irate' into 'Pirate'
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis	Posted - 2008.12.13 04:53:00 - [13] Originally by: Writ Insand Edited by: Writ Insand on 12/12/2008 23:04:25 They're still useful, but their practical lifetime on the battlefield was reduced from about 4-10 minutes (most fits are not cap stable) to perhaps 30 seconds. With the new-ish interceptor role bonus reducing cap cost for disruptors, I'd say a good majority of interceptors are cap stable (or can be easily). In fact, I'd say the only one that isn't cap stable is the Pulse Sader. Warrior IIs (even more so from bonused drone boats) are something to worry about, but you can definitely grab a point and hold on to a target for the time it takes backup to arrive. If not, overload your MWD a cycle and burn away from them and take your target's drones with you. *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Hurtado Soneka Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.12.13 10:45:00 - [14] fly a taranis, with its crazy high struture and good fits including a DC, your overpowered all the way to the bank
Umar Khattab Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.12.13 21:35:00 - [15] screw the ceptors, fly an af man! _______________________________ "Nothing succeeds like excess" -Oscar Wilde
Writ Insand	Posted - 2008.12.14 00:24:00 - [16] Originally by: Artemis Rose With the new-ish interceptor role bonus reducing cap cost for disruptors, I'd say a good majority of interceptors are cap stable (or can be easily). Only at the cost of giving up a mid (never desirable) or a low. Dedicating a low to a capacitor mod is now triply difficult - most ceptors need a sensor mod to lock at max disruptor range, speed mods are all the more precious now that ceptors are slower, and tanking mods are required to delay death by drone. Quote: Warrior IIs (even more so from bonused drone boats) are something to worry about, but you can definitely grab a point and hold on to a target for the time it takes backup to arrive. If not, overload your MWD a cycle and burn away from them and take your target's drones with you. If you're burning away, you're no longer maintaing a point. You've already been forced out of the fight.
Vanthropy Minmatar	Posted - 2008.12.14 01:07:00 - [17] Inties are going to suck if you fit them like the popular fits prepatch. you can't fill your lowslots with speed mods because it's just plain fail you've got to fit a relative tank and close range weapons with some dps for dealing with light drones. I'm not going to post my fits, because I did that in another 'do inties suck now?' thread "SPEED + GANK = SPANK... Spank that ***** up"
Easley Thames The Maverick Navy Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.14 01:54:00 - [18] I consider 3 ceptors worth flying. Here are the fits + uses: Stiletto for gatecamps - Scram + web + disruptor with a signal attunation in the low slows. 2 rigs + remaining low is plenty for speed / agility enhancements. Best ship in the game for stopping a re-approach. Ares for belt tackle - 4 Lows lets you tank warriors and go fast. You want 2 speed rigs, 2 speed mods + light armor tank (DC + SAR works). Mids would be mwd, disruptor and cap recharger. Taranis for anti-inty - best dps of any cetpor, mild speed differences between ceptors are even more easily overcome post-QR and warrior II's are stronger than ever against inties.


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