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chuck starlighter
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Posted - 2008.12.17 18:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Needle Juice
Originally by: Winterblink
hah
i so love enb
So you love ENB will you be playing on the new ENB server over christmas for the stress test?
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Daniel Jackson
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.12.17 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira
if ccp makes the first you can do it all world where you can go on planets go underwater breed your own farms and control armies of marines then ccp will have broken another checkpoint in its long line of innovation
you should buy SPORE then you can breed from just a tiny single cell organism to a space fiearing race and every thing you do has a impact in your future
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SiJira
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Posted - 2008.12.17 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson
Originally by: SiJira
if ccp makes the first you can do it all world where you can go on planets go underwater breed your own farms and control armies of marines then ccp will have broken another checkpoint in its long line of innovation
you should buy SPORE then you can breed from just a tiny single cell organism to a space fiearing race and every thing you do has a impact in your future
ignoring the lack of multiplayer mechanics for SPORE - it is not a you can do it all world - it is all segmented and many other aspects of play are structured differently
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dojocan81
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Posted - 2008.12.17 19:29:00 -
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yeah ccp ... merge EVE with "Mass Effect" and everybody will be happy, this i promise'!!
please!!
:P
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Ima Alt
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Posted - 2008.12.17 20:33:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Daniel Jackson
Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 17/12/2008 09:28:58
Actually in a fanfest they showed some stuff of planetary flight back in 2004
LINK To EVEFiles to the EVE-Online 2004 FanFest Planetary Flight Video
the video is Real, so view it quick before ccp take it off the thread (if they will, its gonna be for posting "un-finished and or scrapped features")
What a bunch of sheep. "OHH AHH THEY PRERENDERED ONE OF THE SHIP MODELS OVER SOME TERRAIN AND A SKYBOX AMAZING BEST DEVELOPERS EVAR!!!!"
Also, *******s to the people in this thread who want even more useless junk added to the already buggy and slow Eve client.
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.12.17 21:23:00 -
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One of the first thing i did in Eve, was show info on planets. Then found an habitated one and wanted to 'dock' it.
Could'nt 
I wasn'nt even wishing for atmosphere flight, but adding this to Eve would ROCK !
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jfourish2
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Posted - 2008.12.19 00:00:00 -
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I'm so happy to see that I'm not the only one that knows eve has the potential. everyone that joins eve has a different vision that they see there self doing or becoming in this game. Nobody can argue this for one reason. If we didn't want more options more complexity we would still be playing regular Mario on Nintendo, but no we demand more and will demand more. That's why I know if eve fails to advance somebody else will succeed. I just hope eve bumps it up a notch, maybe if alot of people read this and agree we could show what needs to be done. Give them motivation.
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cashkillar
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Posted - 2008.12.23 20:07:00 -
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Lets keep the Topic going. I want to hear from everyone. Please leave a comment and tell me what you think.
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Munio Veritas
Black Legion Command
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2008.12.23 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: kindAnuff
this would bring so much more to eve. Not just being in a ship, but actually being able to dock on planets in large cities. Or even owning and/or governing them. This i think would bring more people to eve and keep the people we have now in awe at what eve is capable of doing. PLEASE read and comment. I want to know if i think alone
TBQFH, I'd **** in my pants if we could take over and colonize planets. I'd sub for a year in advance if this happened.
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Thargat
Caldari
North Star Networks
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.12.23 21:01:00 -
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For the sake of immersion I hope that most regular ships won't ever be able to enter atmosphere at planets. I've seen some videos of atmospheric flight with a crow and I didn't like it one bit.
Imagine a phoon going about the speed of sound (or faster) down a planet with atmosphere density similar to planet earth. Hell the thing barely holds together while in vacuum. Or the non symetrical and anti aerodynamicly designed caldari ships. It'd be like welding a Nimitz class carrier sideways to an early eighties volvo and then trying to get the thing airborne.
Some of the shuttles might be able to go atmospheric, most other ships shouldn't though.
I'd be happy with really nice orbit graphics (big ass planets covering half the screen with terrain and clouds) but flying over empty desolate auto-generated mountainranges doesn't add much immersion-wise, atleast not for me personally. If I wan't that I'll go play MS Flightsim. 
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.12.23 21:27:00 -
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don't worry : ) the art book had quite a bit on platary combat and exploration. well ok not like a TON but more than you'll find on the internet :P
it basicly explains that shuttles are the only ships able to enter and exit the planets.
In fact! That's actually why they were originally put in the game!
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Valorous Bob
Slade Gravelpit Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.23 21:35:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 13/12/2008 09:33:52
screw it, feeling nice ;)
from The Drawingboard
Planetary Commander
Planetary RTS or other hybrid game form. Yarr. The long-term crazy professor phase of planetary interaction.
omfg if CCP ever implements this, PLEASE let it be like Supreme Commander! SupCom has got to be the best RTS ever made and already has a somewhat similar environment/backstory to EVE (quantum gates anyone??).
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Originally by: Faekurias
Edited by: Faekurias on 12/11/2008 18:25:39
What, you get to write **** now? Sweet!
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Cyprus Black
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.12.24 00:01:00 -
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I would like to have player housing on planets. And fully customizable too.
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cashkillar
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Posted - 2008.12.25 00:41:00 -
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yes just certain ships should be able to enter planets atmosphere. and i think we should be able to dock and walk around the cities, being able to use guns. Then that would take pirates to planets as in gangs. This would be an easy add on. actually if we could govern them we should be able to build armies(as in corps). To fight and take over other planets eventually taking over the system. then have the option of setting buy and sell prices.if lucky enough to take over a constellation. then maybe have the option to create ships with limitations of course but this would as eve says open a new chapter. please reply and comment me or tell if i'm crazy for want such a diverse game.
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Aeo IV
Amarr
Xomic OmniCorporation
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Posted - 2008.12.25 00:44:00 -
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I really wish CCP would come out with a EVE RTS-- Most RTSes are ******ly fast, and they're getting boring.
But an EVE RTS, you'd have to build and research in real time, just skill training.
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Spike 68
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.12.25 03:09:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Spike 68 on 25/12/2008 03:11:55
Originally by: Winterblink
hah
Jenquai defenders UNITE! 
Also it would be interesting to see how they would work planetary exploration and have it remotely realistic (INTERNET SPACESHIPS lawl) anyway Id imagine that most ships in eve are much bigger than the average player initially imagines. Also would like to be able to warp a thanatos near a city and jump out thereby destroying the city, halo 2 anyone?... eh nvm 
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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2008.12.25 05:53:00 -
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i got an idea, add a new class of ship, siegers
They are cap ships that siege planets.
Once a planet is sieged you can take it with a colony ship, a new class of capital. They drop colonists on the planet and its urs.
Then you can tax the planet! And control stations in orbit of said planets!
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Karath Piki
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Posted - 2008.12.25 06:19:00 -
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Edited by: Karath Piki on 25/12/2008 06:22:25
Originally by: Thargat
For the sake of immersion I hope that most regular ships won't ever be able to enter atmosphere at planets. I've seen some videos of atmospheric flight with a crow and I didn't like it one bit.
Imagine a phoon going about the speed of sound (or faster) down a planet with atmosphere density similar to planet earth. Hell the thing barely holds together while in vacuum. Or the non symetrical and anti aerodynamicly designed caldari ships. It'd be like welding a Nimitz class carrier sideways to an early eighties volvo and then trying to get the thing airborne.
Some of the shuttles might be able to go atmospheric, most other ships shouldn't though.
I'd be happy with really nice orbit graphics (big ass planets covering half the screen with terrain and clouds) but flying over empty desolate auto-generated mountainranges doesn't add much immersion-wise, atleast not for me personally. If I wan't that I'll go play MS Flightsim.
One word for you: Gravitics. Edit: For those incapable of reading my mind, I'm referring specifically to the tech described in Asimov's Foundation series. It's been about twenty years since I read it, but my hazy memory tells me that gravitic engines pretty much trumped atmospheres and held together ships that otherwise would fall apart in them.
But honestly, if capsuleers start hitting the ground they will come as conquerors. That is a can of worms I don't think CCP would want. Perhaps in deep space, away from CONCORD's sphere of influence. If it happens, I would see it as more of an alliance-linked feature tied to sovereignty and conquest.
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Jhagiti Tyran
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.12.25 07:58:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Karath Piki
Edited by: Karath Piki on 25/12/2008 06:22:25
Originally by: Thargat
For the sake of immersion I hope that most regular ships won't ever be able to enter atmosphere at planets. I've seen some videos of atmospheric flight with a crow and I didn't like it one bit.
Imagine a phoon going about the speed of sound (or faster) down a planet with atmosphere density similar to planet earth. Hell the thing barely holds together while in vacuum. Or the non symetrical and anti aerodynamicly designed caldari ships. It'd be like welding a Nimitz class carrier sideways to an early eighties volvo and then trying to get the thing airborne.
Some of the shuttles might be able to go atmospheric, most other ships shouldn't though.
I'd be happy with really nice orbit graphics (big ass planets covering half the screen with terrain and clouds) but flying over empty desolate auto-generated mountainranges doesn't add much immersion-wise, atleast not for me personally. If I wan't that I'll go play MS Flightsim.
One word for you: Gravitics. Edit: For those incapable of reading my mind, I'm referring specifically to the tech described in Asimov's Foundation series. It's been about twenty years since I read it, but my hazy memory tells me that gravitic engines pretty much trumped atmospheres and held together ships that otherwise would fall apart in them.
But honestly, if capsuleers start hitting the ground they will come as conquerors. That is a can of worms I don't think CCP would want. Perhaps in deep space, away from CONCORD's sphere of influence. If it happens, I would see it as more of an alliance-linked feature tied to sovereignty and conquest.
Ships could also be fitted with some kind of atmospheric shield that projects an aerodynamically shaped energy field that also reduced friction, basically its sci fi just make up some quasi plausible technology to explain it.
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JeanMichel Desmarais
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Posted - 2008.12.25 08:55:00 -
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I'd be very happy to see EVE include more variety - I'd specifically like to see the possibility for large-scale ground combat for control of resources (in a wargamey, not FPS kind of way), and so the ability to land troops, or deliver specialised types of troops from orbit a la Starship Troopers (the book, not the dreadful film of that name). (Maybe a reason to collect those marines and militants?) EVE could do with a combat side that is more like war, and less like an FPS of street gangs driving around town in search of a knife-fight (dull, dull, dull!), as currently the most interesting side of what is supposed to be a combat-centric game is the non-combat stuff - at least to this particular veteran war-gamer it is.
Granted, many here are quite happy with combat in EVE, and that's fair enough, but if EVE includes aspects that appeal to different types of gamers, then it makes the experience richer for us all. Governing - and fighting over - planets for resources could be part of that. Giving folk engrossing things to do planet-side so that for some that's the most attractive part of the game would then mean that those engaged in all those dull knife-fights in space would be part of the background to their universe - whilst the flatlanders would be part of the background to the spacers, both influencing the way the world evolves for each other, and giving reasons to trade, fight or whatever to take advantage of those changes.
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Fodderlol
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Posted - 2008.12.25 09:14:00 -
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So many planets to populate. They'll have to come up with basic templates and mix/match small changes to each. I can't imagine a detailed, unique world on each planet.
Still, as long as there are interesting things to do in regards to these planets (take them over, have battles in the atmosphere or ground, build facilities / bases / homes it will be cool.
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Finnroth
Caldari
The Crimson Fraternity
The Lords of Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.25 09:41:00 -
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I am not sure that planetary flight would be the best thing to right now. Walking in Stations is around the corner, and the game has to grow quite a bit more to support enough players that can then divide over all the various aspects of EVE. WiS is probably a better first step in that direction, as it mostly incorporates socializing options.
As awesome as it could be, if we were able to explore the planets in land and water, we probably would never see more than 1-2 players at once right now. And even if it *could* be nice within empire space, 0.0 is still far too uninhabited.
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dojocan81
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Posted - 2008.12.25 12:02:00 -
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1st, you need to explore the planet ala Mass Effect¬
2nd, you need to colonize the planet ala Imperium Galactica 2¬
3rd, you need to defend your planet ala Starcraft 2¬
now we have for all people out there different games inside EVE Online ... the only thing we need is the EVE Online FPS inside stations after WIS.... lol
crazy ideas ...
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.12.25 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: dojocan81
1st, you need to explore the planet ala Mass Effect¬
2nd, you need to colonize the planet ala Imperium Galactica 2¬
3rd, you need to defend your planet ala Starcraft 2¬
now we have for all people out there different games inside EVE Online ... the only thing we need is the EVE Online FPS inside stations after WIS.... lol
crazy ideas ...
you mean you haven't seen the eve online fps gameplay teaser?
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JeanMichel Desmarais
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Posted - 2008.12.25 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Fodderlol
So many planets to populate. They'll have to come up with basic templates and mix/match small changes to each. I can't imagine a detailed, unique world on each planet.
Still, as long as there are interesting things to do in regards to these planets (take them over, have battles in the atmosphere or ground, build facilities / bases / homes it will be cool.
Bear in mind that the level of detail involved were ground warfare implemented might vary widely. It could be fairly abstract - like in Civ or Alpha Centauri - or more detailed, like in the Total War series of games. The former would merely require very rough details for planetary surfaces, then dotting a few appropriately-sized cities and resources around the map. Players would actually be within a particular city when planetside - and possibly lose the ability to get back into space if still in the city when the spaceport is captured, for instance.
Heck of a lot of things would need to be worked out, like who determines who is controlling the various land forces involved, and the interaction between space and ground forces. As for number of players - adding more variety to EVE so long as it doesn't cripple the extant game in the process would only be likely to attract more players. Why is 0.0 so underpopulated right now? Because it simply is not that interesting. Period.
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cashkillar
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Posted - 2008.12.28 05:59:00 -
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I sent an email to eve asking if they would view this forum. I think more people will be attracted to eve because there would actually be games inside of one game. EVE could in fact do this if you didn't read the news letter they sent. They just upgraded all of there equipment. They have the option and i think they should take it, so many news skills to be made for ground warfare. planetary commerce and trade. politics. This would bring so many people to EvE. gametap, blizzard, and sierra wouldn't have a chance. EVE would have the same scenario for all interest. I think it would storm through all other game sites. so if you have an idea please post. This thread could mean a shift into the direction of planet life in EVE.
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